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re: What makes Auburn a more attractive job than Ole Miss?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:54 pm to dchog
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:54 pm to dchog
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The portal is a mixed bag of results. I wouldn't rely on it every year.
I think some reliance on the portal is now baked into the cake for teams that are trying to contend regularly. That's why you need a coach who's a great evaluator of talent that's ready to play if you want to be in the mix regularly.
Clemson under Dabo long-term will be an interesting counter-experiment, considering their recruitment/development philosophy.
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:55 pm to ALhunter
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In this hypothetical scale AU would be Tier 2 nationally along with LSU, Tenn, UF and OM is about Tier 4-5. A team like A&M would be Tier 3.
I disagree with Florida and LSU. They are also tier 1 jobs. Tennessee is tier two, as well as Texas A&M (only because they cannot seem to get out of their own way).
Other tier 2 jobs nationally would be the likes of Oregon, Michigan State, Miami, North Carolina, and I’d even say Penn State as a high tier 2.
Tier 3 would be OM, NC State, West Virginia, Arizona State, etc.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:56 pm to momentoftruth87
The dif is that Kiffin wouldn't HAVE to take a step back in terms of the roster if he stayed at Ole Miss. Why leave a team that is mathematically in the hunt for the SEC West and a NY6 bowl for a team that is two years from competing for either of those things?
Also, is Kiffin in for the long haul at Auburn, or would he want to go to Texas or Alabama if those jobs open up in a few years? Having a long contract at Auburn makes it harder for him to take a better job in the future. He can chill at Ole Miss and make a top-10 salary with a smaller buyout and more easily leave for a blue-blood school than he could if he was at Auburn.
Short-term or long-term, Auburn isn't a good move for Kiffin, unless Auburn is his final destination.
Also, is Kiffin in for the long haul at Auburn, or would he want to go to Texas or Alabama if those jobs open up in a few years? Having a long contract at Auburn makes it harder for him to take a better job in the future. He can chill at Ole Miss and make a top-10 salary with a smaller buyout and more easily leave for a blue-blood school than he could if he was at Auburn.
Short-term or long-term, Auburn isn't a good move for Kiffin, unless Auburn is his final destination.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:58 pm to RebelTheBear
Didn’t we load up his buyout with a ridiculous # if an SEC school came calling for this very reason ?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:59 pm to RebelTheBear
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or would he want to go to Texas or Alabama if those jobs open up in a few years
I think this Kiffin's likelier play. The guy will be in demand. Until one of those top shelf gigs comes open, he can stay at Ole Miss and make our millions as long as he wants.
I do think he wants to stay in the SEC. I think he knows this is where the future of college football is, and I think he likes the action.
Kiffin taking an NFL gig is a wildcard, but I don't think he'll go back there.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:01 pm to reggierayreb
We did and I don't think that's being talked about enough. To fire Harsin and his staff, Auburn would shell out around $20M. To buy out Kiffin's contract, Auburn would shell out another $23M. Kiffin isn't going to Auburn unless they pay him big money, so I'm guessing around $10M for the first year.
Auburn would have to pay $43M in the next three months to make Kiffin their head coach next year, then pay him $10M when payroll comes around. So, $53M in total over the next ten months. I don't care who your boosters are, that's an absurd number.
Auburn would have to pay $43M in the next three months to make Kiffin their head coach next year, then pay him $10M when payroll comes around. So, $53M in total over the next ten months. I don't care who your boosters are, that's an absurd number.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:02 pm to cyarrr
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Ole Miss is likely an underdog in two of the remaining three, possibly all three.
Mississippi State will have 4 losses coming onto the Egg Bowl. You're on crack if you think they'll be favored over Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:03 pm to RebelTheBear
You know Ole Miss fans throw out Kiffin buyout numbers yet those numbers have NEVER been released.
Post something, anything, that shows Lane Kiffin has a $20M buyout cause I’m sorry I don’t buy it. You need Kiffin a lot more than he needs you and I doubt he’d agree to that, he’s in the power position where Ole Piss is concerned.
Post something, anything, that shows Lane Kiffin has a $20M buyout cause I’m sorry I don’t buy it. You need Kiffin a lot more than he needs you and I doubt he’d agree to that, he’s in the power position where Ole Piss is concerned.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:03 pm to NaturalStateReb
Auburn should go after Napier since he's about to get shitcanned at Florida 
Oh wait, nevermind. He himself started a rumor that he turned yall down last year so I guess he's a no go?
Oh wait, nevermind. He himself started a rumor that he turned yall down last year so I guess he's a no go?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:06 pm to AUWDE
I'm guessing that number because of how much money he has left on his contract. He currently has three years, $22.35M in base salary, with an additional few million in performance incentives. Based on that, I'd say $15M-$20M is a more than reasonable guess.
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You're guessing just as much as I am
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I doubt he’d agree to that
You're guessing just as much as I am
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:07 pm to Fuegoqueso
Recruiting.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:07 pm to OBReb6
Agreed.
There really isn't a point in Kiffin taking a risk at Auburn when his eyes are on a bigger prize. He has a nice job at Ole Miss where he can do whatever he wants essentially, has cleaned up his reputation a bit, is seeing his stock climb, has already exceeded expectations in Oxford, and if he's patient will be in the interview room at any program in the country when the time comes.
So risk all of this for a program as unstable as Auburn? Didn't the boosters create a lame story about Harsin cheating on his wife with an assistant to fire him for clause? Yeah, that should really appeal to Kiffin...
The Auburn program is in a much worse position already compared to when Harsin was hired. If they had to settle for a guy like Harsin even then, why jump on board now?
There really isn't a point in Kiffin taking a risk at Auburn when his eyes are on a bigger prize. He has a nice job at Ole Miss where he can do whatever he wants essentially, has cleaned up his reputation a bit, is seeing his stock climb, has already exceeded expectations in Oxford, and if he's patient will be in the interview room at any program in the country when the time comes.
So risk all of this for a program as unstable as Auburn? Didn't the boosters create a lame story about Harsin cheating on his wife with an assistant to fire him for clause? Yeah, that should really appeal to Kiffin...
The Auburn program is in a much worse position already compared to when Harsin was hired. If they had to settle for a guy like Harsin even then, why jump on board now?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:09 pm to Fuegoqueso
The fact that you have to ask this further solidifies why your program is stuck in quicksand!
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:12 pm to OBReb6
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I disagree with Florida and LSU. They are also tier 1 jobs. Tennessee is tier two, as well as Texas A&M (only because they cannot seem to get out of their own way).
That's fine. You're allowed to disagree you're just wrong by any quantitative measure other than something like this year's football record (lol). Humans are driven by heuristics, recency bias, and emotion so not a big deal.
By the numbers the only tier 1 program in the SEC if you want to talk historically and nationally is Alabama. If you want to add really recent performance in then you could add GA, but that wouldn't have been the case over the last couple of years. If you go any broader than that you have to add TN, LSU, AU, and FL, which if you want to say there are about 15-20 tier 1 programs, every one of them makes that cut.
From there anyone else is unarguably Tier 2 or below and no other SEC team sits in the same tier as those 6 programs.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:15 pm to Fuegoqueso
You can win and play for a National title at Auburn.
Hasn’t been done in modern times at Ole Miss. you can also win the SEC title at Auburn. Ole Miss hasn’t done that since the 60’s. I like Ole Miss but it’s just has that small school fill. Two Mannings couldn’t do it for them.
Hasn’t been done in modern times at Ole Miss. you can also win the SEC title at Auburn. Ole Miss hasn’t done that since the 60’s. I like Ole Miss but it’s just has that small school fill. Two Mannings couldn’t do it for them.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:31 pm to Foy
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We have been better at everything than them throughout our history. Hope this helps.
No offense, but didn't they just win a National Championship in baseball?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:33 pm to AUWDE
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Post something, anything, that shows Lane Kiffin has a $20M buyout cause I’m sorry I don’t buy it. You need Kiffin a lot more than he needs you and I doubt he’d agree to that, he’s in the power position where Ole Piss is concerned.
The buy out is for sec west teams only, any other team it is very low
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:36 pm to RebelTheBear
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To buy out Kiffin's contract, Auburn would shell out another $23M.
That is not how it works, the 23 million is what Ole Miss owes if they fire Kiffin... Kiffens buyout to leave is closer to 2 million.
Remember many coaches can just leave without paying a buyout.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:37 pm to RebelTheBear
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Why leave a team that is mathematically in the hunt for the SEC West and a NY6 bowl for a team that is two years from competing for either of those things?
Well, hopefully your good players transfer with the raise they will be getting as well.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 10/31/22 at 3:37 pm to Fuegoqueso
Before NIL Auburn was a better job. But not now. And I'm not saying this because I'm a Bamma fan. NIL has, and will change college football.
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