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re: What makes Auburn a more attractive job than Ole Miss?

Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:41 pm to
They won 2 games then won the west. Lol
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:42 pm to
You seem stable.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:42 pm to
I agree with the OP. I don't think AU has significant advantages over Ole Miss. Dealing with boosters and power brokers is probably complicated at every SEC school but AU may be the worst in that regard.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37686 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:42 pm to
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I don't think Auburn gets Kiffin, but to be fair it doesn't take as long to rebuild anymore with the transfer portal. He could have them going pretty strong in 2024.


Agreed. I don’t put a lot of stock into immediate dumpster fire situations being that much of a turnoff anymore. Kiffin could do exactly what he’s done at OM for Auburn in the same amount of time, and should be able to do it even better if he’s worth his reputation.

Long term health and sustainability of being an Auburn coach is the factor that sticks out to me as the potential deal breaker.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71256 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:43 pm to
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You seem stable.


Very. Nice fallacy. Must be a Mississippi thing. Stay on topic
Posted by BearRebelShark
Member since Jun 2019
296 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:44 pm to
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Ole miss can’t even fill their small stadium.


Sold out every SEC game this year. Shame on us for not filling it up for a 3 pm 102 degree showdown against Tulsa 5 weeks ago.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2933 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:44 pm to
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Auburn is a tier 2 job

In this hypothetical scale AU would be Tier 2 nationally along with LSU, Tenn, UF and OM is about Tier 4-5. A team like A&M would be Tier 3.

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Lane is still young, but not that young. We are hypothetically assuming his goal is to one day get another premium job.

This is an unwise assumption. Every Auburn coach other than Harsin going back to the 80s has had an undefeated season, won a national title or played in one. AU is a program that can give a coach a legitimate title shot.

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Comparisons between OM and Auburn from when Tuberville left are no longer accurate imo.

You're then ignoring historical program strength, even recent program strength, and all of the things you've said above make no sense either. After Tuberville Auburn has won a national title and played in two with multiple SEC titles. OM has maybe a division title? I can't recall for sure.

AU fans don't think it's a "no brainer" per se because there are a lot of complicating factors.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3326 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Ole Miss is coming off a 10-win season and about to post another.



You sure about that?

Ole Miss is likely an underdog in two of the remaining three, possibly all three.
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
4612 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:46 pm to
In this hypothetical scale AU would be Tier 2 nationally along with LSU, Tenn, UF and OM is about Tier 4-5. A team like A&M would be Tier 3.


LSU and Florida are way better jobs.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:47 pm to
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I don’t put a lot of stock into immediate dumpster fire situations being that much of a turnoff anymore. Kiffin could do exactly what he’s done at OM for Auburn in the same amount of time, and should be able to do it even better if he’s worth his reputation.


If he could bring Quinshon Judkins with him and find a decent QB he could definitely get Auburn to a bowl in year 1. It’s just that there’s no point in taking that step back unless he sees Auburn as his final destination.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:48 pm to
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What makes Auburn a more attractive job than Ole Miss?
We have been better at everything than them throughout our history. Hope this helps.


It doesn't help at all. In spite of the fact that what you say is true, Auburn isn't one bit more attractive than Ole Miss now.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2933 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:48 pm to
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LSU and Florida are way better jobs.

Maybe by your gut. Not by any objective measure.
Posted by BeauxDidley
Member since Dec 2021
99 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:49 pm to
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lost at least one game in every decade since the 70s.


Lost at least one game in every decade since the 70s? lol so has every other program

Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6014 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:49 pm to
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What makes Auburn a more attractive job than Ole Miss?

Historical results, better school, proximity to a large city (and Georgia)...
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37686 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:50 pm to
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It’s just that there’s no point in taking that step back unless he sees Auburn as his final destination.


Exactly. This is what I'm trying to get at.

Is Kiffin an A list type that can eventually get any job he wants? Debatable, but there are people who would argue he is. Who would be others out there right now that have as strong of an argument as him?

Do you consider Auburn as the end all be all type job? I would think most would say no, but taking that job means you either stay there for the long haul or you are fired. There is no alternative
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:51 pm to
The portal is a mixed bag of results. I wouldn't rely on it every year.
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:51 pm to
The main thing is fan support. Auburn has great fan support, while Ole Miss fan support is finally (finally!) entering something like consistency.

The gap between Auburn and Ole Miss, larger historically, but narrower now. Auburn isn't a top shelf program, like lots of Auburn fans think. It's a next tier program. It can contend in cycles, but doesn't contend consistently.

Ole Miss will always be the first team in it's state, while Auburn, no matter how good it gets, will always be Alabama's junior partner, whether that's fair or unfair. Auburn and Texas A&M, Aggie cultishness aside, are good parallels.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:53 pm to
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Do you consider Auburn as the end all be all type job? I would think most would say no, but taking that job means you either stay there for the long haul or you are fired.


Since 1951, the only Auburn coach who wasn't fired or forced to resign was Shug Jordan. If you go to Auburn, you get fired. That's what happens. It's what's always happened.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16952 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:53 pm to
Auburn sucks a lot of dick and what man doesn’t like getting their pole smoked ?!!?!
But seriously, they’re hiring Cohen as their AD to make the hire. No one wants Cohen not even his own alma mater.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21171 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:53 pm to
LSU and Florida are better than far majority of jobs.
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