RebelTheBear

Yep. Have been for a few years now.

The Browns currently have 5 QBs: Deshaun Watson, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel, and Shedeur Sanders. NFL teams rarely keep more than three QBs on their active roster. Watson is hurt and could be put on IR but that will depend on his return from injury timeline, which would mean he doesn't count against the 53-man roster limit. They have to keep one of Flacco or Pickett to have a backup with NFL starting experience, if not both while Watson is hurt. I don't think it would be wise to have either Pickett or Flacco and two project rookie QBs as your options going into the season. So, Gabriel and Sanders will likely battle it out for the third roster spot until Watson comes back.

Another possibility is that the Browns trade one of Flacco or Pickett closer to the season to let Gabriel and Sanders get a fall camp under their belts. This might help Cleveland figure out if they have a viable starter/backup in either of Gabriel or Sanders. I think there is a chance they keep both if they're both solid out the gate, but this is the less likely scenario IMO.

It would be career suicide for the coaching staff if the Browns don't have at least two viable options at QB going into the 2025 season. So, if the projections about both Gabriel and Sanders are true, and if Watson misses an extended period of time in 2025, then one of Gabriel and Sanders isn't making the team unless Cleveland chooses to tank this year.

Holy frick Shedeur got passed up on again :lol:

Say what you will about falling to a better team, Shedeur was a projected top-five pick at one time who has now fallen out of the first round. He’s cost himself tens of millions of dollars in contract money and is now an all-time draft night dropper. Not good however you look at it

Generational Talent List and justifications for inclusion

NFL
Patrick Mahomes - 3-time Super Bowl winning QB who is likely to get more. Don't need to say much else.
Justin Jefferson - JJ has 7500 yards and 40 touchdowns in his first five seasons. At only 25 years old, he's going to continue rocketing up all time lists and could snag the top spot on the receiving yards list at 35 years old if he continues on his current pace.
Derrick Henry - With one or two more seasons, Derrick Henry will be top ten in rush yards all time and is known as one of the last true bell cow running backs in an NFL dominated by the passing game.
Couple of guys on defense who I'm forgetting

NBA
LeBron James - 4-time NBA champion who is largely seen as, at worst, a top five player ever. Most have him top three.
Steph Curry - Another 4-time NBA champion who revolutionized the game and is considered the greatest shooter ever. Holds the records for most three pointers made and has the highest regular season free throw percentage of all time.
Kevin Durant - Seven-foot all-around superstar who has won multiple championships and is considered one of the best offensive players to ever play.
Could MAYBE add guys like Jokic, Giannis, Luka, and Harden.

MLB
Shohei Ohtani - A phenomenal two-way player who has won the World Series and an MVP playing as both pitcher and outfielder.
Aaron Judge - One of the best homerun hitters in the modern game and multiple-time MVP. One of only 32 players in MLB history to hit 50 home runs in a season, and he's done it three times
That's probably it

Golf
Rory McIlroy - Five-time major winner and one of the very few golfers to complete the career grand slam. I wouldn't have included him here without the career grand slam, but his record is that of an all-time great
Scottie Scheffler - Already won the Masters twice and is only 28 years old. Will probably win 5+ majors in his career barring injury. Including Scottie on this list might be a bit of a stretch considering he only has 13 wins on the PGA Tour.

Don't know enough about the NHL to include it. Feel free to drop those guys here if any exist

Yes, are you using the link in the OP?

I think we can take one game. Really don't see us winning the series. Pretty important that we don't get swept IMO

Just because the NFL hit on 100% of the invitees they had last year doesn't mean they're going to this year. History tells us that the NFL Draft has multiple invitees that don't get drafted first round almost every single year. Think about this logically - there are only six teams that would realistically take a QB in the first round: the Titans, the Browns, the Giants, the Saints, the Steelers, and the Rams.

-Milroe is not getting drafted in the top five. There's literally no way this happens, would be akin to taking Daniel Jones at six which basically ran the Giants' franchise into the ground for the past five years. The Titans are likely taking Cam Ward at one, so they're off the board.
-Milroe doesn't fit the system in New Orleans at nine, and they already have Derek Carr. The Saints also have other needs that can be filled by much better, more NFL-ready players like Tyler Warren. No team at the end of the first round is going to want to trade back ten or more spots for NOLA's pick at 40, so NOLA is likely out.
-No QB-needy team is drafting between picks 9-21.
-The Steelers are probably the strongest possibility in R1 without any trades, but I don't think Milroe at 21 makes sense. There are too many good players with much better draft grades left on the board at this point. Similarly to the Saints, if the Steelers don't trade back, they're not going to have enough capital to trade back into the first round using their second round pick.
-Milroe doesn't fit the Rams' offense, so it's unlikely he gets drafted at 26. Rams are out.
-The Giants will 100% take Shedeur before they take Milroe, so they're off the board.
-The only other way Milroe gets drafted in round one is if a team trades up from the second round. It would likely be the Browns who could trade up from pick 34 assuming Shedeur hasn't already been taken. The Browns are probably going to take Abdul Carter at two, so it might make sense that the Browns trade up for Milroe in the first round. However, why would they do that? Every other team that needs a QB and has realistic interest in Milroe has already taken a QB. They can still get Milroe at 34 and not have to trade away any of their picks.
-You can take the same scenario above and switch the Giants in for Cleveland, and it still plays out the same way.
-All of this to say, I think the only team that would realistically take Milroe is the Steelers at 21. If they take Milroe over Dart, I think they're making a mistake.

I'm not claiming to be some NFL Draft expert or anything, but drafting Milroe in the first round really seems like a bad idea no matter which angle you take. And again, it's way more common than uncommon that a few NFL Draft invitees don't hear their names called in round one.

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If he is getting an invite to Green Bay, he's getting drafted in the 1st Round.

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That isn't guaranteed in the slightest. No one knows who is getting drafted and where they're getting drafted. Normally, the players that get an invite to the NFL Draft green room are getting drafted in the first TWO rounds, not just the first round. Even then, it's still not guaranteed that everyone that gets invited will be drafted in the first two rounds

He's a relatively small guard who doesn't play great defense and is a good but not elite scorer. He has a very low floor if his scoring ability doesn't translate to the NBA