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re: The B1G and SEC want UNC, so who wins the prize?
Posted on 7/4/26 at 8:39 am to JohnnyU
Posted on 7/4/26 at 8:39 am to JohnnyU
FSU has been arse outside of 2 seasons since Jimbo left. Thing is, they still draw a lot of views. Believe they are the 2nd most viewed program outside of the P2 after Notre Dame.
Some believe geographic markets and institutional fit don’t matter as much anymore and views are king. If that’s true, then FSU will have an invite to either the B1G or SEC when the time comes.
Some believe geographic markets and institutional fit don’t matter as much anymore and views are king. If that’s true, then FSU will have an invite to either the B1G or SEC when the time comes.
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Posted on 7/4/26 at 1:57 pm to TrueLefty
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Clemson is a lock to go to the Big 10.
I cannot believe people really believe that.
The Big 10 schools wouldn't give Clemson the time of day.
There in NO chance that little 'ol Clemson would ever be a fit in the Big 10.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 2:53 pm to 308
JohnnyU,
You are living in the past my friend. Yes, the ACC has been mediocre but in case you haven’t noticed a lot of ACC are buying players that would have gone to the SEC these days. Over a 2-3 year cycle that will bring them up and SEC teams down. Heck, you are seeing that right now with the BIG. It’s not random luck that no SEC team has been in the Natty 3 years. That’s a result of action by other teams buying their players and weakening the SEC. You guys can stick your head in the sand and call guys like me names but the results speak. The ACC did what the SEC hasn’t done in several years now and it wasn’t by random luck. The SEC has been slow in adapting and their coaches have brought in the wrong portal guys. Look at Tennessee and their stud who is already off the team.
You are living in the past my friend. Yes, the ACC has been mediocre but in case you haven’t noticed a lot of ACC are buying players that would have gone to the SEC these days. Over a 2-3 year cycle that will bring them up and SEC teams down. Heck, you are seeing that right now with the BIG. It’s not random luck that no SEC team has been in the Natty 3 years. That’s a result of action by other teams buying their players and weakening the SEC. You guys can stick your head in the sand and call guys like me names but the results speak. The ACC did what the SEC hasn’t done in several years now and it wasn’t by random luck. The SEC has been slow in adapting and their coaches have brought in the wrong portal guys. Look at Tennessee and their stud who is already off the team.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 2:55 pm to RunningJacket
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Yes, the ACC has been mediocre but in case you haven’t noticed a lot of ACC are buying players that would have gone to the SEC these days
Can I get a list of said players?
Posted on 7/4/26 at 3:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Can I get a list of said players?
Google Miami’s roster from last season?
Posted on 7/4/26 at 4:20 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
No, but GT has 10 4 stars committed for 2027 that would have committed to SEC teams. We normally have 2 or 3 per class. Those are players that Kentucky, Auburn, Florida aren’t getting. And that’s just one team.
I get that UGA is still getting the prime beef players but look at Bama’s recruiting. Outside of UGA, it’s not nearly the same when the little guys are now buying players
I get that UGA is still getting the prime beef players but look at Bama’s recruiting. Outside of UGA, it’s not nearly the same when the little guys are now buying players
Posted on 7/4/26 at 4:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Can I get a list of said players?
Carson Beck? you remember that guy?
Posted on 7/4/26 at 4:37 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Miami scavenged a player from us that we scavenged from you last year.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 4:51 pm to RunningJacket
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You are living in the past my friend. Yes, the ACC has been mediocre but in case you haven’t noticed a lot of ACC are buying players that would have gone to the SEC these days. Over a 2-3 year cycle that will bring them up and SEC teams down. Heck, you are seeing that right now with the BIG. It’s not random luck that no SEC team has been in the Natty 3 years.
I don’t disagree that NIL and the transfer portal have created more parity and SEC teams are not stacking rosters any longer. Still, other than Miami the ACC is not producing on the field in any large measure. Where is the depth in the ACC?
Traditional powers will get more than their share. Media rights of SEC and Big1G still give them the edge over the little 2 of the P4.
We’ll see in 2 or 3 years as you forecast but I wouldn’t bet your house on it.
This post was edited on 7/5/26 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 4:51 pm to JohnnyU
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FSU will be bordering on irrelevance if they don't right the ship after Norvell. Bowden's legacy doesn't mean much anymore. 2024 was an outlier for FSU relative to their performance since 2016.
I don't think any of the Big 3 in Florida will ever be "irrelevant". Miami was dormant and "irrelevant" for about 20 years until they weren't.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 5:14 pm to JohnnyU
I think the bigger NIL story is that BIG teams are buying up a much larger share of the blue chip players than they were getting under the bagman system, kids are willing to go to the frozen northern wastelands for more cash + playing time rather than be stacked 4-5* talent on Bama, Lsu, Uga’ etc 2nd-3rd team rosters
Posted on 7/4/26 at 5:22 pm to GTnerd
If we are going to 20 give me UNC, UVA, NC State and Duke.
If going to just 18 give me UNC UVA.
If going to just 18 give me UNC UVA.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 7:06 pm to JohnnyU
Johnny,
It’s still early in the process. This isn’t an instant thing. It will take several cycles just like it takes years for a giant to crumble. Look at Bama. Saban retired several years back and yet Bama still has a pulse because of him and the draw. But no one can argue they are slowly declining. We’ve seen this time and time again when a legend retires or something cataclysmic happens in the sport. Look at FSU after Bowden. They hung in for another decade. I would say unlimited transfers and bagmen for all is the biggest change in college football history.
And look at UGA. Even with still having Kirby, top 3 classes, and Clemson, Auburn, and Bama being down they still haven’t been to the Natty in 3 years. Meanwhile schools like Indiana, Miami, Michigan, etc have and none of us would say they are above UGA overall. But clearly something is happening and it’s not just bad luck because we watched the games and they were just straight up beat without flukes.
It’s still early in the process. This isn’t an instant thing. It will take several cycles just like it takes years for a giant to crumble. Look at Bama. Saban retired several years back and yet Bama still has a pulse because of him and the draw. But no one can argue they are slowly declining. We’ve seen this time and time again when a legend retires or something cataclysmic happens in the sport. Look at FSU after Bowden. They hung in for another decade. I would say unlimited transfers and bagmen for all is the biggest change in college football history.
And look at UGA. Even with still having Kirby, top 3 classes, and Clemson, Auburn, and Bama being down they still haven’t been to the Natty in 3 years. Meanwhile schools like Indiana, Miami, Michigan, etc have and none of us would say they are above UGA overall. But clearly something is happening and it’s not just bad luck because we watched the games and they were just straight up beat without flukes.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 7:11 pm to RunningJacket
And I have no clue if the ACC will improve in the middle or lower tier but at least now they have a choice to pay or not pay. I could ask the same about middle SEC teams are no different than ACC teams. Auburn has become Duke. Arkansas is BC. Miss St is Syracuse. I could go on and on. Heck, Tennessee is UNC. But you guys are blinded by preseason polls and believe them. Look at Tenneseee. They’l be ranked but lose every decent game because that’s what they do.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 10:25 am to EV
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I don't think any of the Big 3 in Florida will ever be "irrelevant".
No one ever thought Nebraska would be irrelevant or that USC would disappear for nearly 20 years. It doesn't seem to me that the FSU administration, AD and booster donor are "in alignment". They've made one baffling, stupid move after another since Jimbo left and that includes Jimbo's last couple of years there.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 11:47 am to JohnnyU
I agree. Things can go south fast and in this new era it’s gonna happen to teams no one expected. I’m not saying 3-9 bad, but there are going to be a lot more 6-6 and 7-5 teams in the future and because fanbases will continually compare the past to the present they’ll scream and yell and make things worse. The talented players are going to be spread around seeking money and playing time which create highly competitive games. That’s all I ever wanted. If my team goes 6-6 yet we’re competitive and showed up then that’s fine. Eventually every team will have a 10-2 when things align - see Vandy recently and Miami. Not dominant, but had great years.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 3:45 pm to GTnerd
B1G programs did not have the free reign as did the SEC. While cheating did happen, the league's presidents liked to enforce their power over athletics.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 5:08 pm to NickPapageorgio
quote:After Oklahoma State and Tulane.
UNC and UVa
Nobody else should be considered at all.
Tulane for LSU and Oklahoma State for Oklahoma.
Arkansas and Missouri are left with each other to close out the season.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 5:25 pm to semjase
I doubt LSU and Oklahoma would want Tulane and Oklahoma State.
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