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Not a good look but the freakery is funny. When will you guys accept that the outrage cycle is about 2 days. Sure, it will go thru the usual liberal Sunday news shows and by next Wednesday the cycle will have moved on to the next outrage.
It’s only trending down for fans of teams trending down. Listen, I like both Bama and Clemson as I like most southern teams except when playing my school. But for every game there is a winner and loser. The fans of teams who have been conditioned to win (primarily because their coaches paid players to sign) are the only ones making posts about “giving up”. We just saw a season where you had a lot of fanbases who had the their best season in years and loved it - Indiana, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, GT, Ole Miss, Duke, etc.

I totally understand Bama and Clemson fans being pretty salty these days. Both were at the mountain top for a long time, now both are looking in the mirror and not recognizing the reflection. But to say things like it’s only gambling keeping the sport up shows you aren’t paying attention outside your front yard. Indiana just took over Merceds Benz stadium in the heart of the SEC. Heck, my school a mile down the road has never done that - but we would if we were 15-0 because people will spend to root for a winner. Clemson is a perfect example. They were up under Ford, down for awhile, the back up, and now down.

We are in the baby steps of a new era which has occurred many times in college football (forward pass, integration, bagman, now NIL and portal). Teams will learn to adapt or take more losses. My team did not adapt during the changes in the 60’s and 70’s and we fell from a top 15 power to an afterthought in a span of a decade. But the sport stayed strong. College football is doing great and gaining interest with the new playoff system. And each time it expands it will do even better as more fanbases get excited.
Some of you don’t live in reality. The SEC is no longer seen by anyone but you as the premier conference. No one is buying your BS anymore. It’s been 3 years since you had a team in the Natty. Saban is long gone and UGA, your champ, lost to ND and Ole Miss the last 2 years.

I’m a southern homer and take pride in southern football, but the SEC and their fans have gotten soft. You can’t take facts and just want to live thru your past glory. You have a lot in common with Notre Dame.

Whining about more losses in a 9 game schedule is as soft as Lebron. The playoffs will expand so more losses isn’t an issue. What you are really whining about is your advantage is gone vis a vis the BIG. How about y’all just nut up and win post season games. No one cares about the regular season or if you go undefeated or 9-3. Win the meaningful games and build your trophy case.
This stuff is just stupid. Kirby looks way better than most of us if we had to deal with moronic players trying to shake you down after every game. The problem the SEC has is he is young and has already owned the SEC so everyone can keep spending millions trying to find what UGA already has.
WG,
You really still believe that regular season out of conference games mean anything? Or games against Georgia Southern or whatever directional we all play for an easy 2 wins count?

The old days of a beauty contest are over. Regular season wins only matter if they help you get a bid for the playoffs. As the playoffs grow and auto bids increase then out of conference games will prove to be even more worthless.
Sure I would have celebrated but we weren’t going to the ACC champ game either way. And I sure didn’t see UGA fans celebrating. It was by far the most odd GT-UGA game I’ve been too. Both fanbases whining the entire game about their own team and stupid play calling. Then when it was over everyone just walked out of the Benz like they were leaving church because ultimately we all spend hundreds of dollars for a nothingburger. At least you guys had the playoffs to look forward to.
Sure I would have celebrated but we weren’t going to the ACC champ game either way. And I sure didn’t see UGA fans celebrating. It was by far the most odd GT-UGA game I’ve been too. Both fanbases whining the entire game about their own team and stupid play calling. Then when it was over everyone just walked out of the Benz like they were leaving church because ultimately we all spend hundreds of dollars for a nothingburger. At least you guys had the playoffs to look forward to.
Guys, I’m a Kirby fan. He’s from down my way so I respect him. You don’t need to be so defensive especially with a top 5 program.

And no, I don’t believe Saban is some savant coach because he bought the best players and won. Notice he wasn’t considered elite at Mich St or the Dolphins when the field was level. I gave Kirby huge props for finally beating Saban at his own game. But the game has changed now.

You can scream about SEC titles all you want but they no longer matter. It’s now all about making the playoffs and winning the playoffs just like in every other sport. UGA finished the same as Duke - a conference title no one cares about and no Final Four run.

And me being a Tech person means nothing. Y’all beat us in a god awful boring game. Congrats. But that game meant nothing to either team.


As for teams that have done more 8n the portal era, I’d say Michigan, Ohio State, and Indiana all have done more because they won the games that mattered. No one cares if you guys beat Texas or even if Texas beat you because neither did a darn thing in the playoffs. That’s how sports are judged which is why Brady is considered the GOAT and Marino is barely known by kids today. It’s why Stetson Bennett will always be the greatest UGA QB of all time until someone else duplicates back to back or wins 3.
Nobody has said Kirby can’t win the big one. What we are saying is that Kirby has won when he had loads of talent above his competition. I have always given him huge props for bringing the Saban bagman system and doing what Richt could never do.

But, Kirby has never done what a lot of coaches have done which is win games against better talent. Can anyone tell me a game Kirby has out coached a team with better talent? But I can name many games he lost against inferior teams.

This isn’t disrespect towards him. It’s just to point out that UGA no longer has the huge talent disparity which makes the window much smaller to win. UGA now has to be really good in all 3 phases of the game and coaching. Those back to back teams were loaded with NFL players. Looking at the mock drafts shows UGA isn’t expected to have a player drafted until the late 1st round. The portal and NIL has made UGA just another team with a chance.
Winning SEC titles aren’t the end all be all any more. It’s about the expanded playoff. Kirby has hardware under the old system. UGA will probably be one of 12 teams with a shot to win it next season. And you can talk about them being young on defense and Kirby having past hardware, etc, etc. But we have all watched them fall short year after year now in the new system with different QB’s and different defenses. Instead of buying Cannion from GT they should have bought Faulkner.
In no form or fashion was Cannion GT’s best WR. Do you just ignore facts and stats. But admittedly he looks good getting off the bus but then very little on field production. You’ll see.

And Kirby was a top tier coach when the bagman system ruled. He learned under Saban and then took Richt’s system and made it better at UGA. I give him huge props for that at UGA. But the worm has turned and suddenly we’ve had 3 years of UGA being just a team with the talent disparity being leveled. Sure, they still have the recruiting to beat the GT’s, Miss St, Florida’s, and South Carolina’s, but when you are losing to ND and Ole Miss the alarm bells should be going off.

And I have distant family ties to Stockton so I root for him, but the offensive coaching is simply not there. Half their success is Stockton improvising. That’s important in some spots throughout a season, like we saw with Mendoza against Miami, but it shouldn’t be what the offense depends on. I saw it with Haynes King. Eventually, the load gets too much for a singular player. UGA will have a chance next season, but nothing I’ve seen from Kirby or Bobo indicates UGA is capable of rolling teams anymore, but they’ll have an experienced QB so thypey have a chance.
Today’s players turn the ball over less because the refs allow walking and call a foul if you get close to a player. So of course when steals of yesterday turn into fouls today you’ll have less turnovers. And, sure, players are getting more athletic over time just like in 30 years from now those players will make guys like Wemby and Lebron look less athletic. But Jordan is the GOAT because he was doing future stuff in the past and everyone knows if you put Jordan in the league in the 2060’s he would use those training tools to the max. And just on the face of it, Jordan’s physical body was built by God for basketball unlike any past or current player. He was just big enough to force dunks over centers like Ewing and Olajuwon, yet small and thin enough to get thru double teams and utilize any opening. Very few of today’s players have that combo. Lebron has always been to big to get thru space which is why he turned to the flop because he couldn’t fit. And the shooters like Durant a d Steph and just way to small to handle going to the basket like Jordan did.

And we haven’t even discussed DEFENSE which none of the top players today spend any energy on - maybe Anthony Edwards as a top tier player.
They can make a ton on overtime and per diem. And the big pay raises are within the first 5-6 years on the job. So a guy in his mid 30’s who has 6-7 years in the agency with overtime can get close to 200K. But he’ll have no life working all those hours.
Duke got in because they won the ACC. It wasn’t one upset. They won as many ACC games (actually 1 more) than Miami.
What’s funny is you guys still believe the polls are legit. The playoffs have proved the polls are totally biased with opinion. OSU was ranked #1 all freaking season and didn’t even make the Final Four. UGA and A&M were ranked highly and bowed out early. Miami was an afterthought and proved the pollsters are illegitimate.

How many years do we have to watch these ranked teams get beat before you guys wake up to the corruption? Polls are no longer needed. Give each P4 conference 3 auto bids and tell them that they decide whatever method they want to send their 3 reps to the playoff, This would force ND into a conference.

I know you guys would say that no way a 3rd place ACC team should get in over a 4th place SEC team, but again, Miami just did it with freaking ease. And your #1, #2, #3, #4, and $5 teams all shat the bed once again.

Eventually when we expand conferences will have auto bids and the polls will be gone, No other sport uses polls because everyone knows they are simply tools to manipulate public opinion and you guys eat it.
Miami is one of many teams who will be contending in the ACC. It’s wide open. Miami got hot at the right time but that does nothing for next year. Cristobal finds ways to lose games. They are losing a lot of good players and Mensah is not a savior.
Bowl games need to die. The bowls and NCAA are nothing but corrupt entities that have kept college football in the dark ages for decades. Thankfully the NCAA has been neutered so now just let the bowls die.

And if 2 teams want to arrange a game after the season and they are not part of the playoff then let them. But to have an archaic system like the bowls that will screw over teams still exist is nuts. The good news is they are quickly dying so I give them a few more years. Once we go to 24 teams they’ll be dead.
Some franchises simply don’t even try to win. We all know, and Saleh knows, it will be a 2 or 3 year experiment depending on the record in year 2 and then he’ll be gone.

re: When will CFB collapse?

Posted by RunningJacket on 1/14/26 at 4:37 pm to
For every fan of a SEC team who will go 7-6 in the future instead of 9-3 and lose some fans, they will be replaced by other teams, Did you not just see Indiana, freaking INDIANA sell out Mercedes Benz stadium?

I remember all the threads on this board by UGA fans about “taking over the Rose Bowl” and when they “took over Autzen stadium” and were acting as if it was something special. What’s special is winning. Win and fans appear. My little ole team who has a constant home attendance of around 40-45,000 when we are average. This year we sold out several games because we were “above average”. If we ever went 12-0 we would also sell out stadiums because fans are thirsty for a winner.

But I understand that SEC fans believe it’s all crashing down because your teams have proved themselves to be inept when competing on an even level. SEC coaches are being exposed and QB’s are being exposed without 4 and 5 stars all over the field. The sport is GAINING fans.

re: When will CFB collapse?

Posted by RunningJacket on 1/14/26 at 12:29 pm to
Just because the SEC is collapsing doesn’t mean the sport is.

Of course I say that tongue in cheek, but the reality is this new era is hurting the SEC since their major advantage has been taken away. So, sure, I understand the angst and whining form SEC fans. But I also expect SEC fans to be smarter and look at the sport overall and realize having other parts of the country enjoy success is good for the sport. Bama and UGA won 8 of 14 Natties - that was not good for the sport especially knowing it was due to the bagman system that Saban specialized and Kirby brought to Athens.

College football is finally healing after decades of being run by conmen and cheaters from bowl committees, to AP voters, and scummy coaches many of you idolize. Sure, changes will come to NIL and the portal but the days of the corrupt and below board past are over. If teams want to spend 2 million on a player then everyone knows.