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Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:10 pm to DirtyDawg
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Read as: Just have a pulse.
Just need to spell your name correctly.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:42 pm to RogerTempleton
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ACT 26-33 better than everyone but Vandy, comparable to Florida
SAT 1230-1460 better than everyone but Vandy, again comparable to Florida (our 75th percentile is a bit higher, 25th percentile a hair lower)
And yet the sheet of paper isn't really any more valuable.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Really don’t want to respond to this, but federal courts have forced many of us to lower standardized admissions scores. Which is what this is based on. The more you know, the more you understand. These types of comparisons don’t hold water in the real world.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:28 pm to Hugh McElroy
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But we're not. Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and A&M are clearly better academic institutions than Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU, and State.
SC has climbed steadily since the 90s.
We also have the #1 School of International Business in the world and one of the top public Honors Colleges in the country.
We're close to being named an AAU Research Institution and once we make that list our scores will go-up even more exponentially.
It's a good school. We're striving for more and more both academically and athletically.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 12:10 am to RogerTempleton
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This is one of the major reasons Texas balked at the SEC when the conference first approached them about expansion before settling for Aggie. Only Vandy is better and Florida is maybe on par.
That would make sense if Texas was in the Pac12 or B1G........but they were/are in the B12.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:20 am to AshLSU
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Really? How close do you think you compare to Georgia and Florida in this situation?
Now how close do you compare to LSU, Bama, Arkansas?
Our academic numbers and credentials are much better than LSU, Bama, and Arkansas. We've fallen slightly behind Florida and Georgia as a result of our decision to become a massive, massive school. We were the same size as Florida when we joined the SEC, with slightly better or the same academic numbers, but we've grown by 18,000 students during that time (while all or most other very large public institutions chose to stay the same size), and that's hurt our academic averages, putting as a little behind UGA and UF. Take the worst 18,000 students currently at A&M out of the rankings, and we're a little ahead of UF and UGA. With those students, we're a little behind them.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:21 am to scrooster
South Carolina, the state, is one of the fastest growing in the country.
The simple factor of increased demand has helped USC and the othe big in-state school to be more selective with admissions.
Consider the state of Mississippi. The state of Mississippi has a flat to shrinking population. The only way the two big state schools can be more selective going forward is to cut student enrollment and we know that’s not gonna happen since less students mean less money to cover all those fixed annual costs.
Someone mentioned all the out of state students with poor academics that have enrolled at Ole Miss and MSU. I wouldn’t be surprised if the in-state / OOS ratio approaches a level where there are more OOS students at both schools.
In South Carolina, the public funding for public universities has gone to almost nothing and so it is rumored an OOS applicant has a better chance of admission than an in-state applicant because the school makes more money from OOS students. The Mississippi schools are likely taking more OOS kids for both financial and state population factors.
The simple factor of increased demand has helped USC and the othe big in-state school to be more selective with admissions.
Consider the state of Mississippi. The state of Mississippi has a flat to shrinking population. The only way the two big state schools can be more selective going forward is to cut student enrollment and we know that’s not gonna happen since less students mean less money to cover all those fixed annual costs.
Someone mentioned all the out of state students with poor academics that have enrolled at Ole Miss and MSU. I wouldn’t be surprised if the in-state / OOS ratio approaches a level where there are more OOS students at both schools.
In South Carolina, the public funding for public universities has gone to almost nothing and so it is rumored an OOS applicant has a better chance of admission than an in-state applicant because the school makes more money from OOS students. The Mississippi schools are likely taking more OOS kids for both financial and state population factors.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:27 am to scrooster
I went to graduate school at South Carolina about ten years ago. I loved living in Columbia, and I enjoyed the school.
(If I can be real for a second, though...the BBQ sucks, and Columbia is the only place I ever lived where strangers said openly racist things to me - a realtor and a barber were both openly racist, as in "there is a nice white family that lives next door.")
(If I can be real for a second, though...the BBQ sucks, and Columbia is the only place I ever lived where strangers said openly racist things to me - a realtor and a barber were both openly racist, as in "there is a nice white family that lives next door.")
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:30 am to SummerOfGeorge
SAT vs ACT test takers
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:32 am to Toneski
I think South Carolina has solid upside. I don't think the brand is very good (no offense) but South Carolina doesn't have the stigma of schools in Alabama/Mississippi/Arkansas, IMO. That's probably not fair to those states, but nonetheless true.
I question how high South Carolina (although I see no reason it can't continue to rise) can go simply because South Carolina, like Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc., lacks a major professional hub. I love Greenville and Charleston but those still aren't the economic feeders/drivers that other surging states have.
I question how high South Carolina (although I see no reason it can't continue to rise) can go simply because South Carolina, like Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc., lacks a major professional hub. I love Greenville and Charleston but those still aren't the economic feeders/drivers that other surging states have.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:33 am to madmaxvol
I resent Texas being labeled in blue, along with both coasts.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
I’ll take lower test scores if it meant more football wins
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
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fricking George is to blame for the Jumbo package.
AND IT WOULD HAVE WORKED TOO IF NOT FOR THAT PESKY CHRIS CAPPS
FYI... these posts made this whole thread worthwhile.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
I may have missed it, but didn't see anyone bring up A&M's top 10% auto-acceptance. There are tons of people who are top 10% caliber students (for their high school) who do not excel at standardized tests. I think this is probably the biggest hindrance to our numbers not being higher.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:41 am to Realistic Ag
That and accepting 30,000 applicants a year.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:43 am to BHMKyle
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Tennessee and Missouri have much larger populations and only one big state public school that's enticing for kids to want to attend, yet perform worse academically.
Tennesseee...by most state standards, does not really have any "big schools" Tennessee State Schools by size:
Largest Sized Schools (20,000-30,000)
University of Tennessee - 30,000
Middle Tennessee State University - 23,000
University of Memphis - 21,000
Medium Sized State Schools (10,000-20,000)
UT Chattanooga - 12,000
East Tennessee State University - 15,000
Austin Peay - 11,000
Tennessee Tech - 10,000
And...of course, only one substantial sized private school
Vanderbilt - 13,000
All other universities in the state are less than 10,000 students.
Compare that to Texas which as 7 schools with over 30,000 students.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
The SEC is a race for 2nd place.
Football - Bama
Basketball - Kentucky
Baseball - LSU
Academics - Vanderbilt
It will be a long time if ever when anyone of these schools are knocked off their perch.
Also I can see what A&M is doing and I like it. They have room (real estate) to grow and are keeping their culture by not making it damn near impossible for regular students to get in. Florida is getting way too nerdy for my taste. I see lots of kids growing up as Gator fans because one or two of their parents went there and they end up going to UCF, USF or another SEC school because they can't get in.
Football - Bama
Basketball - Kentucky
Baseball - LSU
Academics - Vanderbilt
It will be a long time if ever when anyone of these schools are knocked off their perch.
Also I can see what A&M is doing and I like it. They have room (real estate) to grow and are keeping their culture by not making it damn near impossible for regular students to get in. Florida is getting way too nerdy for my taste. I see lots of kids growing up as Gator fans because one or two of their parents went there and they end up going to UCF, USF or another SEC school because they can't get in.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:24 am to bigDgator
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Also I can see what A&M is doing and I like it. They have room (real estate) to grow and are keeping their culture by not making it damn near impossible for regular students to get in. Florida is getting way too nerdy for my taste. I see lots of kids growing up as Gator fans because one or two of their parents went there and they end up going to UCF, USF or another SEC school because they can't get in.
This is pretty much exactly why Sharp and the powers that be made the decision to let A&M grow to 75,000 students. There has always been hostility between the political leadership at A&M and the academic leadership at A&M. The former wanted to keep A&M accessible, and the latter wanted to improve it's academic profile. The political leadership won. We'll see what that means for A&M.
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