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Too early to judge, but it’s several seconds after the shooting until USSS appears to move and only after the crowd is moving.
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west more is about to throw columbine in your face, bigot


They've pushed white criminals out unless it's a relationship based thing or drugs

You hear snippets all the time about how old Jim Bob Smothers committed a rash of breakins in 1988 and ended up killing a couple - I mean these criminals literally don't exist anymore

Guys who would have been prolific criminals are now Systems Administrators at a health system
I found a fake Hugo called The Hulk at the Dollar Tree a decade ago

Still have some, it's legit
We should go to Costco and ask them directly

Deep down they know that if all crime by that demo (black guys, 15-35 or so) ended tomorrow, Baton Rouge and comparable cities would be the safety equivalent of some New England tourist town

It's insane
The SPLC is the old guard of establishment media and put targets on the backs of conservatives for a long time. Obviously there was a direct line between the FRC attack and SPLC doing just that.

I highly doubt Charlie's murderer had any knowledge that SPLC had said anything specific about Kirk. But, SPLC is arguably, historically, the #1institution for normalizing demonization of right wing groups as adjacent to Nazis or some other title that would make harm to them justifiable (in the eyes of leftists).

Happy to put some of the blame on them, just as I would MSM or the DNC. They know how the left is wired, and they did it anyway (and they're still doing it).
Credit to Pittsburgh, looked good on TV

I have no idea why people treat the Draft like a major event, but whatever
One my 2 yo twins is a champ. He'll fight you if you try and help him clean up. Picks up after his brothers, collects trash, etc.

Of course, he'll also just randomly open a bottle of anything and pour it out on the floor and then demand you get him supplies to clean it up. So there's that.
Imagine a world without RW celebrity podcasters and influencers
The only thing that seems to work is either for it to be super dull and uninteresting aesthetically (it can be nice, it just has to be very subtle in appearance). Or to do the industrial chic thing, which buys you some time.


COTS is doing numbers this week :lol:

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I don’t know what DJT will ultimately do either but it would seem a good general guideline that he or any other president should always follow would be:

Don’t go down that road in the first place unless you are willing to do whatever it takes to achieve total victory. Not partial victory. Not achieving something only to an extent it will have to be dealt with again later by some other generation.

America has gotten itself into some unnecessary messes in our history because we ultimately try to navigate our way through hostilities in a “politically acceptable” way.

Again, I don’t know what DJT will ultimately do in this particular situation with Iran.


Agreed. I was talking to a Marine buddy with several combat tours last weekend, and he was really conflicted re: Iran. Essentially - "this is probably the most justifiable war and the one for regional stability we should have fully committed to all along" - paraphrasing. But now, given recent history, the reluctance to pour more $ and blood into the region, etc. - we're trying to achieve an even grander result with both hands tied behind our back.

That rings true to me. Taking out the Iranian regime roots and all would be, candidly, a straightforward case to make if the slate were blank. But it isn't.
How is this mall for those of us unfamiliar with it

or to ask diplomatically, would the average OTer let their daughter go there regularly?
In all seriousness, to what end?

Trump is Trump, I don't know what he'll do. But it seems pretty obvious he's somewhat negotiating with himself here and he doesn't want to bomb them into oblivion. He's looking for a win - whether an actual one or not - and the type of campaign that could give you another school blown up on the news is going to very much undercut that.

I'm going to object to the NYP here as this framing is ridiculous.

The SPLC was a partisan hack group with unethical practices long before 2020. The FRC shooting was in 2012, and SPLC was pretty widely considered a questionable actor back then by many.
I'll give it to the DOJ, if successful, this is the killing of a sacred cow.

SPLC has been scoffed at by much of the general public for a while. They don't really try to hide their complete full-of-it-ness. Yet they're incessantly propped up by American institutions - Academia, media, tech, etc. in subtle ways.

"According to the SPLC, this hand symbol is a hate symbol." Despite a decade of pies to the face, they still get that treatment. Finishing them off would be a symbolic win, at least.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but cell phone interactions/transactions are definitely prosecuted as wire fraud all the time
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But this "sustain" narrative doesn't fit with the examples we have, like the one in OP. By the time the SPLC was paying him, he had no organization to support, from what I can tell, at that point in his life. If he didn't have an org, then he pocketed all the money.



And they simultaneously used him as a fundraising boogeyman? To what end? What could they possibly be learning?

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But, let me pose this in response. If this wasn't about information-gathering, what was the point of stealing the 25 boxes of paperwork? What other purpose would that serve? And that incident is specifically alleged in the indictment.



SPLC needs both to sustain the activities of hate groups and to give them credibility sufficient to drive donations and SPLC's continued existence.

My best guess is that SPLC is using figures to drive conversations that can then be referenced (even in the abstract) by SPLC in public, with the idea being that if law enforcement or media or whomever pried, the SPLC theme can be verified, even if only loosely.

They're informants in the sense that the agents involved in the Whitmer "plot" were informants.
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No, but he gave them inside information for their reporting.



Dude, what reporting?

The entire "informant" narrative is dumb to begin with - what meaningful work product is SPLC producing that would either require or benefit from granular, inside information? They're not an intelligence agency or law enforcement group. They produce vague "reports" that are ripped to shreds by any sort of due diligence or oversight and rarely have any operational/creedal details.

re: Movie Debate: Dunkirk vs 1917

Posted by Pettifogger on 4/23/26 at 10:09 am to
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Dunkirk is good

1917 is an illusion of a technical gimmick, and its "substance" amounts to showy cameo fest.


I won't go this far.

But Dunkirk is a powerful movie. I think about Dunkirk. I never think about 1917, even though I like it.

Dunkirk is just more my speed. 1917 was good, I'm happy to celebrate it, but it has a Disney-fied war movie feel. Hacksaw Ridge felt the same to me - even though it's not a flimsy movie. It may be the prevalence of CGI, I don't know.