Pettifogger

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Add to this Trump non committal answers as to whether he would consider a pardon for her... IDK what exactly is going here but its fricking weird. She is a convicted sex trafficker. None of this should be happening.

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I'm fine setting her free if it leads to prosecutions or at least the truth about a few other perpetrators, TBH. It's not like she's going to live some grand life at this point.

But yes, lots of things in this saga don't make sense. I'd put my confidence at there being some very compelling (in the eyes of a POTUS) IC related reason not to release materials at 80%.

When has Trump ever just sat back and taken it on the chin for months without hitting back in meaningful fashion? Never. Instead he's lashed out at his own people for not moving on, which is likely a sign of immense frustration at being in this spot.

To me it's essentially "turnabout is fair play"

Trump/MAGA/Republicans aren't outsiders getting their first crack at everything. They had the ability to know a good bit of what existed on Epstein, what they could/couldn't get out, etc.

And they beat the drum for years on it, only to get in office and (in my view) determine their hands were tied. I don't think because of Trump's role, but because of other sensitivities and likely IC involvement. There is probably a "good" reason why Trump/MAGA can't hit back after all the lead up. But there is no excuse for getting themselves boxed in on it.

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Once again will the mental midgets explain why the Biden Administration didn’t release anything if there was any “there, there”?

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I won't be shocked at all if when the Democrats resume power, we're doing this again, with Republicans clamoring for releases of information and floating/leaking things learned in this administration out.

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And this board will just accept this cope. They’d be asking for heads of anyone else who hung around a known pedophile, but Trump will get a pass on anything that isn’t him actually touching kids.

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Maybe you're right, maybe we should hold a firm line, etc. But human nature is obviously different.

Even Giuffre's accounts regularly acknowledge that she wasn't sure when girls were of age and underage. I'm sure that added a layer to Epstein's other associates. They probably told themselves the girl walking around his house who had no reason to be there was 19 - and maybe she was. But they probably strongly suspected (or knew) some of them weren't - and that was true too. I'm sure many of them - perhaps Trump - were absolutely certain about what Epstein was into, but didn't have any real evidence beyond off hand comments and seeing girls who looked out of place with a 45 year old guy.

Trump should have cut all ties with anyone he suspected was foraying into that stuff - I agree. But he didn't, nor did a bunch of other business associates, politicians, hedge fund managers, celebrities, so forth. If we want to, as a country, decide they're all culpable, that's a fair take.

I'm sure it was Giuffre, whose father worked for MAL and got her a job there where she was poached by Maxwell.

Now, you can argue it was messed up for Trump to hang with Jeffrey despite knowing he'd likely recruited a young girl from MAL and was having sex with her, but I'm guessing that was hunches and strong suspicions rather than setting around and seeing it, etc.

In other words, something everyone in Epstein's orbit was probably guilty of.

The reality is that everyone in Epstein's circle probably knew. That includes Trump. Some - like Bill Clinton - very likely partook. They all probably know who did and didn't.

My best guess is that if the 100% full story came out, it would burn Trump down. Not because he did anything specific, but because it would become apparent he sat more or less idly by. But, I suspect it would destroy a few hundred other prominent people at levels far, far worse. As in "Clinton goes to jail" worse.

But that story doesn't exist in records, most likely.

Of course, Trump could burn the thing down and put the truth out there, which very likely includes some intelligence community angle that has locked up two administrations on this front.

I just don't see Lane staying at OM forever, but he can probably take 2-4 years to make a move if he's going to leave. I don't see his star burning out in the very near term.

My best guess is that Lane is looking for the opportunity that will be upper echelon-final CFB stop type stuff, but will not throw him into a tumult that destroys the personal progress he's made at Ole Miss. Not sure how UF fits that. I don't think LSU does. Wait on Texas?

Of course, if he has serious NFL aspirations all of this is probably out the window.

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If he does well he’ll bolt to an elite program,

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This hasn't ever happened at AU fwiw

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More stable? Bobby Lowder says hello.

Better administrators? Your school almost lost your freaking academic ACCREDITATION years ago due to incompetence, something my alma mater never remotely approached.

Better school? Says who, you? LSU grads, particularly those in engineering like me, are some of the most sought-after public university grads anywhere.

The rest of your blather isn’t worth commenting on.

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Missing kids who live at home with mom and dad, whose parents know where they are 99% of the time, who go to bed at 8:30 and have a regular schedule of extracurriculars and school involvement...will get far more immediate attention from police than kids in high risk areas who hang out with groups of teens in the middle of the night and have irregular schedules and whose parents or caregivers frequently don't know where they are or who they're with.

I'm sure some black kids in the former category (or akin to it) have occasionally had to overcome some bias due to the latter category, and that truly does suck. But those biases are probably borne of LEO experience.