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re: SEC Admissions : ACT/SAT scores - 25th percentile and 75th percentile
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:19 am to UAtide11
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:19 am to UAtide11
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You're absolutely right about the geographic factors. Alabama, Ole Miss, and State are all closer to Memphis and Jackson than Knox is. In a lot of instances, you can get in-state tuition as well (I think Arkansas offers it as well).
I know Ole Miss used to do that for Memphis residents and legacies back when I graduated from high school (2003, and I'm from Memphis fwiw), but by the time my cousins went to college around 2007 for the oldest (they went to Ole Miss) they had done away with in state tuition for legacies. Both their parents had gone there, and they had to use our family farm in MS to establish residency there while still in high school to avoid having to pay OOS tuition. I have no idea if that's changed now.
Another random fact. There is no dental school anywhere in the state of Arkansas. UT Memphis Dental School does not waive OOS tuition for any Arkansas residents, even those in West Memphis on the other side of the river. That was the difference in like 25k/year in tuition.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 11:28 am
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:20 am to lsufball19
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you'd be surprised. Ole Miss went from an undergraduate enrollment (Oxford campus only) of just under 11k in 2000 to over 18k currently. That's more than a 70% growth
Yes but Ole Miss doesn't attract the same level of students as Alabama, evidenced by the stats in the OP.... which is my point. Any school can grow. But can it grow and increase academic standards in a big way?
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18% of their student body comes from TX, TN, and GA.
Alabama doesn't release state-by-state stats for some reason, but I imagine this is fairly common for most SEC schools. Auburn's enrollment from Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas also totals 18%. The reason is Texas and Georgia are gigantic states that can't meet the demands of the number of students they have that want to attend a large public school with major D1 athletics. Tennessee is quickly moving that direction as well, especially with how fast its growing as a state.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:23 am to Hugh McElroy
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And, like others have said, some schools favor the SAT.
Back in the old days no good school took the ACT
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:25 am to BHMKyle
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Tennessee is quickly moving that direction as well, especially with how fast its growing as a state.
You would think so, but like I said earlier, UT hasn't experienced much growth at all the past 20 years. They have only had about a 2500 enrollment growth the past 20 years LINK
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:14 pm to lsufball19
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You would think so, but like I said earlier, UT hasn't experienced much growth at all the past 20 years. They have only had about a 2500 enrollment growth the past 20 years
They've limited to growth to increase their other metrics. For instance, their average ACT went from 24.7 to 27.2 in 12 years while the average GPA has gone from 3.45 to 3.94 in the same time.
They've limited enrollment growth to focus on raising academic standards. I can't say one strategy is 'better' than the other. But it is very difficult to increase enrollment and academic standards at the same time.
In my admittedly undistinguished opinion, if you're UT you aren't catching the UVAs, UGAs, UNCs of the world. You can get your numbers up all you want, but perception-wise I don't think you'll make it to that echelon. But there is still obviously value in being the best you can be academically.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:10 pm to UAtide11
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In my admittedly undistinguished opinion, if you're UT you aren't catching the UVAs, UGAs, UNCs of the world. You can get your numbers up all you want, but perception-wise I don't think you'll make it to that echelon. But there is still obviously value in being the best you can be academically.
They won't catch UVA or UNC, but how long has UGA really been viewed as a premier state university? They've had HOPE 10 years longer than Tennessee has. And you can see from the admission standards posted how much improvement has been made since UT started their HOPE program in 2003. UGA was just the first school in the SE to really push to become an esteemed academic state university and start a scholarship program like HOPE. Florida was next in 1997 to start a HOPE-like program, and not surprisingly, are generally thought of as one of the top 3 or 4 universities in the conference.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:18 pm to UAtide11
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or Texas State.
It seems like all our universities just keep growing.
A&M is in the mid 60s
tu 52k
UH 43k
UTA 42k
Texas St 39k
UNT 38k
TTU 37k
UTSA 31k
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:19 pm to lsufball19
Wait so even with the academic scandal people still view UNC as a better state school?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:37 pm to Farmer1906
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It seems like all our universities just keep growing.
Your state has grown by about 7 million people since the year 2000. For comparison, that is more than the entire current populations of MS, AL, LA, TN, SC, and MO. Even GA with a city like Atlanta only has a state population of about 10 million. With the increasing numbers of kids going to college across the board, it shouldn't be surprising for all the Texas schools to grow like that with how much the state has grown and continues to grow.
Florida, with their 20 million people, have huge colleges as well.
UCF - 59k
UF - 50k
FIU - 48k
USF - 47k
FSU - 41k
Broward - 31k
FAU - 30k
Noca SE - 29k
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:01 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Wait so even with the academic scandal people still view UNC as a better state school?
Absolutely. It's still one of the best public schools in the country and ranked in the top 10 in that category almost everywhere.
Cal/UCLA
Michigan
UVA
Texas
UNC
Service Academies (if you count them)
Some combination of those schools is generally the top 10 annually. Georgia Tech, Georgia, Florida, and A&M usually round out the top 15 and occasionally sneak in there. After that you've got Washington, Wisconsin, other Cal system schools
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:03 pm to UAtide11
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Absolutely. It's still one of the best public schools in the country and ranked in the top 10 in that category almost everywhere.
I know
Just laugh at those who say it isn't because a few athletes took fake African American studies classes.
Business school is still one of the best in the country.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:13 pm to BHMKyle
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Any school can grow. But can it grow and increase academic standards in a big way?
Not gonna happen to Mississippi schools. At least not by anything the universities can do. OM or MSU can try to attract all the oos students that they want, but the Ayers Case is still the law of the State and says that ALL institutions have to have the same entry requirements. MSU and OM would have to draw tens of thousands of out-of-staters with max ACT/SAT scores to offset the MS students already enrolled.
MS has to fix it's elementary and HS education problems first
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:25 pm to lsufball19
Based on wiki it looks like Florida has about 12 public universities while Texas has close to 40.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:40 pm to Farmer1906
quote:Woh
Based on wiki it looks like Florida has about 12 public universities
Wiki is way off
I see 41 4 year public colleges in florida
LINK
No clue what some of these are though
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:05 pm to Farmer1906
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Based on wiki it looks like Florida has about 12 public universities while Texas has close to 40.
Texas is also a bigger state than Florida by about 7-8 million people.
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