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re: SEC Admissions : ACT/SAT scores - 25th percentile and 75th percentile
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:54 pm to GlossuRabban
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:54 pm to GlossuRabban
I'm confused... Why are we still talking about this?
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Vanderbilt
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your school
Tier 1:
Vanderbilt
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your school
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:20 pm to bigDgator
Holy crap, this was actually a good thread. Least amount of trolling and most info that I have ever seen on an SECrant thread.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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ACT 25th percentile (how smart are your dumbest students)
1. Vanderbilt - 32
I know it's vandy and all, but that's impressive as hell
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
TIL I might've been able to sneak into Vandy
Thanks high school guidance counselor
Thanks high school guidance counselor
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:01 am to Sun God
Although the ACT is more popular in South Carolina, I did so much better on the SAT. I had a 1440 SAT, but only a 27 ACT. But neither test is a very accurate indicator of college success, that depends more on your high school setup. I struggled through college my first year because of our schedule setup in high school (6 year long classes rather than college structure) even though I had better than a 4.0 GPA
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:01 am to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
quote:That male/female ratio is frightening.
- 56% women
- 44% men
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:06 am to Wes225
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I'm pretty sure you only need like a 16 to get into Ole Miss, or at least that's what it was recently.
If I'm not mistaken, it's automatic admission to any Public University in Mississippi on for MS residents who have a 16 ACT and 3.2 GPA or 18 ACT and 2.0 GPA.
Out of State (at Ole Miss, specifically) requires a 22 and 3.0 for automatic admission.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 1:08 am
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:14 am to Irons Puppet
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Acceptance rates are the most useless stat used for ranking a college. If they want a useful stat then they need to chart the Test Scores of those who were rejected. My guess the list would look totally different, but you never see those numbers.
It's gotten to the point where even Ivies were at one point sending out literature to people they had no intention of ever accepting but they wanted them to apply so they could reject them. The more applications = more rejections = being able to claim you're highly selective. Admissions offices know exactly how to manipulate things in order to make their school desirable.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:42 am to SummerOfGeorge
There is a lot of intelligence inequality at Alabama
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:47 am to chawk195
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1440 SAT, but only a 27 ACT
I’ve never heard of anyone’s having that huge of a gap. The SAT score is outstanding while the ACT is average at best. The equivalent would have been a 32-33.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:55 am to Farmer1906
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1440 SAT, but only a 27 ACT
I’ve never heard of anyone’s having that huge of a gap. The SAT score is outstanding while the ACT is average at best. The equivalent would have been a 32-33.
He failed to mention that he took the SAT when it was still on the 2400 pt scale.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
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- 41% in state
- 56% out of state
- 3% international
Blast away but that is crazy for a flagship public university
The problem is the the University of Alabama wants to grow its enrollment to become a very large public school, but the state of Alabama hasn't grown fast enough in recent decades. UA's only way to grow that large is to become majority Out of State.
With Auburn also in state, there is just no way for Alabama to get to the size of enrollment they want and maintain an in-state majority.
I'm not sure if I would personally favor Bama's growth strategy, but considering that's the strategy they took, they seem to have executed that strategy quite well. Very few institutions would be able to grow in enrollment that much, that fast and actually improve academic metrics.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:23 am to BHMKyle
I think having a very marketable football team helps.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:27 am to Farmer1906
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I think having a very marketable football team helps.
It certainly helped
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:41 am to BHMKyle
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I'm not sure if I would personally favor Bama's growth strategy, but considering that's the strategy they took, they seem to have executed that strategy quite well. Very few institutions would be able to grow in enrollment that much, that fast and actually improve academic metrics.
you'd be surprised. Ole Miss went from an undergraduate enrollment (Oxford campus only) of just under 11k in 2000 to over 18k currently. That's more than a 70% growth. However, like Alabama with OOS students, 46% of Ole Miss' students are from OOS. 18% of their student body comes from TX, TN, and GA. And if you want to compare the size of states, Alabama sits at around 5 million and Mississippi 3 million, both having 2 SEC schools.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:54 am to lsufball19
Neither Mississippi nor Alabama have the population to support two large, 'flagship level' public schools. Which is why Ole Miss and Alabama have both aggressively pursued out of state students.
Whereas Tennessee and Arkansas each have one, clear-cut top public school (with smaller, less prestigious 'system' schools throughout the state) . Vandy is obviously the best school in TN but it only has 7,000 undergrads and is private. Interestingly, both states have legalized the lottery in the past 15 years and have used that to try to spur their growth, while their neighbors to the south have not.
Whereas Tennessee and Arkansas each have one, clear-cut top public school (with smaller, less prestigious 'system' schools throughout the state) . Vandy is obviously the best school in TN but it only has 7,000 undergrads and is private. Interestingly, both states have legalized the lottery in the past 15 years and have used that to try to spur their growth, while their neighbors to the south have not.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:00 am to lsufball19
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18% of their student body comes from TX, TN, and GA.
Not coincidentally, all these states have lottery scholarships and their flagship schools are tougher to get into. For a lot of people, Ole Miss (and Alabama) is a better option than Georgia Southern, MTSU, or Texas State.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:00 am to UAtide11
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Whereas Tennessee and Arkansas each have one, clear-cut top public school (with smaller, less prestigious 'system' schools throughout the state) . Vandy is obviously the best school in TN but it only has 7,000 undergrads and is private. Interestingly, both states have legalized the lottery in the past 15 years and have used that to try to spur their growth, while their neighbors to the south have not.
Interestingly, MTSU has almost as large an undergraduate enrollment as UT (19k to 22k) and actually was larger at one point IIRC, and Memphis' enrollment is even at 17k now. HOPE has had a dramatic effect on enrollment at universities in Tennessee.
UT is just so far away from a lot of TN residents that a lot more people are now going to MTSU and Memphis. Even UT Chattanooga and ETSU have had significant growth. UT, for whatever reason, hasn't tried to grow all that much. I also believe the state of their AD has had an affect, as I believe they were actually a larger school in the early 90s than they are currently.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:04 am to UAtide11
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For a lot of people, Ole Miss (and Alabama) is a better option than Georgia Southern, MTSU, or Texas State.
Ole Miss has always had a good portion of their student body from Tennessee because if how close Memphis is. Knoxville is 6 hours away, whereas Ole Miss is an hour away. In some ways, the geographic of the state of Tennessee and UT being in the eastern part of the state is a detriment to keeping people in state. Alabama, Miss State, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Arkansas are all closer to people in West Tennessee than Knoxville is. Even Baton Rouge is closer, albeit by about 50 miles, to Memphis than Knoxville is.
But you're absolutely right, admission is so difficult for Texas and UGA that Ole Miss has benefited greatly from it.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:14 am to lsufball19
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Interestingly, MTSU has almost as large an undergraduate enrollment as UT (19k to 22k) and actually was larger at one point IIRC, and Memphis' enrollment is even at 17k now. HOPE has had a dramatic effect on enrollment at universities in Tennessee.
Very true, but Memphis and MTSU aren't held in the same regard as the big state schools by most people. It's unfortunate but it's true. Tennessee also has a lot more people than AL, MS, and AR.
You're absolutely right about the geographic factors. Alabama, Ole Miss, and State are all closer to Memphis and Jackson than Knox is. In a lot of instances, you can get in-state tuition as well (I think Arkansas offers it as well).
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