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re: Why the hell did we extend DeBoer?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:32 am to Freight Joker
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:32 am to Freight Joker
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How many of our programs have been ranked in the top 25 or top 10 over the last 12 months? Damn near all of them? I’ll give the guy the benefit of the doubt if that’s ok.
That’s fair, and I’m not suggesting we fire Byrne. But I haven’t seen anyone defending this contract based on its own merits.
The buyout if DeBoer chooses to leave is only $10M. No program or NFL team that he would leave for is going to blink at that. From my perspective, we gave him way more security for little to no more security in return.
People are saying a long term contract helps recruiting, but that just seems like archaic thinking to me. The team that just won the national title was all transfers, and not even very highly regarded transfers. Same is true in men’s basketball.
If the goal was the stave off Michigan and Penn State, it would have been nice to at least get some security that we won’t have the same problem this fall.
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:59 am to TomRollTideRitter
DeBoer is a players coach. Its a different approach than what we've had. He gets his best play from players who he's built a relationship with.
This is why Germie Bernard was our most reliable receiver for two years and why he's kept Mack here.
Just give the man a chance. This season we need to see some improvement from the running game and offensive line, but one thing is for certain. The guys love him and they will play hard for him.
I think he and Keelon will have a really special relationship moving forward and we will have some of the greatest moments in Bama history from those two.
I believe in Kalen. Roll Tide.
This is why Germie Bernard was our most reliable receiver for two years and why he's kept Mack here.
Just give the man a chance. This season we need to see some improvement from the running game and offensive line, but one thing is for certain. The guys love him and they will play hard for him.
I think he and Keelon will have a really special relationship moving forward and we will have some of the greatest moments in Bama history from those two.
I believe in Kalen. Roll Tide.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:01 am to theballguy
Glad we upped his private plane usage from 30 hours to 55 hours. More opportunities for him to miss key weekends so he can fly to Washington softball games. He doesn’t have to use Southwest Airlines anymore.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:18 am to FairhopeTider
on the surface, looks like GB locked ckd down fairly solidly, creating long term stability. however, if theres enough disenchantment he made it easy for someone to swoop in and remedy that issue.
i hope ckd works out, but i'm not betting on it. especially after keeping the special teams and s&c coaches.
i hope ckd works out, but i'm not betting on it. especially after keeping the special teams and s&c coaches.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:32 am to TomRollTideRitter
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But I haven’t seen anyone defending this contract based on its own merits.
Entered year 1 with a dismantled roster and went 9-3 with Jalen Milroe and Nick Sheridan.
Took a team last year with a QB playing at 50% and no running game and went 7-0 in league play.
He’s the only coach to make it to the playoffs with two teams.
Taking away NAIA and Fresno state (12-6) he’s 45-11 as a D1 coach.
20-6 against AP ranked teams
7-1 against Smart, Sark, and Lanning.
I get the bad losses and blowouts sucked, but reality is, it’s going to happen again and it doesn’t matter who the coach is.
I do agree that it doesn’t affect recruiting one way or the other.
I would love to never have to pay a coach a large buyout, but that will just never be a reality either.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:40 am to Freight Joker
Worst case he's Lincoln Riley.
Best case he's Chris Petersen but with an nc.
Best case he's Chris Petersen but with an nc.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:50 am to crimsontater
There wasn't strong disenchantment with Michigan/PSU calling him, he didn't even force it into an immediate raise.
After idiot fans went rabid over him wearing a hoodie instead of a suit on the sidelines like it's the 1950's, i'm not worried about him taking the peanut gallery with much weight
The deal is a market rate raise and a 1.5 year extension. It's not a huge deal and just speaks to the fact the AD isn't irrational. He went from signed to 7 years in 2024 to signed to 7 years in 2026. That's it.
After idiot fans went rabid over him wearing a hoodie instead of a suit on the sidelines like it's the 1950's, i'm not worried about him taking the peanut gallery with much weight
The deal is a market rate raise and a 1.5 year extension. It's not a huge deal and just speaks to the fact the AD isn't irrational. He went from signed to 7 years in 2024 to signed to 7 years in 2026. That's it.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:19 am to crimsoncoded94
Take this as you will, but I was watching ESPN this morning while riding the exercise bike at Planet Fitness and they were talking about this, Dan Orlovsky and others, and I have zero idea who they talked to or where they got their info. But they said DeBoer is a players’ coach, whatever that is, but that he realizes he went too far in that direction when he came in, basically trying to be the anti-Saban. He realizes now he went too far and was trying to be someone he isn’t and thinks he’s now found a happy medium between the extremes. I hope they are right.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:38 am to InkStainedWretch
Good to see we’re paying someone $11 million and they don’t even know the right approach to take with the players. That’s usually the ticket to success at Alabama…
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:25 am to Legionfield
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This is probably more about squelching the asinine "Hot Seat" talk by the media and fans going into the season. I have zero issue with it. They buyout has dropped dramatically......10 million, as opposed to what 60 million last year? Not a bad deal for both sides. It also keeps others from negative recruiting against us. At the end of the day the man did what all the "experts" on the message boards said he had to do last year.....make the playoff. He even won a playoff game. The landscape has forever changed.....back away from the ledge.
I'm not really on the ledge. I generally agree with the broad principle that stability is really important right now because there are so many other headwinds surrounding college athletics. I don't think he "deserves" a contract extension but "deserves got nothing to do with it." There are reason to extend that aren't directly performance related.
I'm really trying to forecast the what if regarding DeBoer churning out two or three more seasons with similar feel to the first two. My guess is that the stability seeking extension could become a serious headwind for Byrne.
The last thing you want in the unfettered free market capitalism era of revenue college athletics is for your big donors to stage a capital revolt.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:45 am to Diego Ricardo
It's a market rate extension. Every major coach is signed through 2031 currently. All we did was align him to market. You can google Sark, Kiffin, Deboer, Elko, etc. and it's 2031 across the board because that's what everyone is renegotiating to.
Deboer is not getting fired if he's going 10 wins in the SEC and making the playoff more often than not. We're not living in the 2010's anymore.
Even then, the contract wouldn't be an issue three years from now because the buyout would be in the 30M~ range. It's pennies. They could just soft push him out or wait it out on an above average but not terrible performance. Michigan was setting Harbaugh up for the former before his championship performance.
Deboer is not getting fired if he's going 10 wins in the SEC and making the playoff more often than not. We're not living in the 2010's anymore.
Even then, the contract wouldn't be an issue three years from now because the buyout would be in the 30M~ range. It's pennies. They could just soft push him out or wait it out on an above average but not terrible performance. Michigan was setting Harbaugh up for the former before his championship performance.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:05 pm to UhOhOreo
Did Courtney Morgan deserve to have his salary doubled? Not just increased….but have his initial salary doubled.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:16 pm to FairhopeTider
What's the going rate for people in his position in the Blue Blood programs of college football?
I know people are pissed that money's taken over everything and nobody does anything for the love and tradition of the sport anymore, but that's where we are right now. Do we play in the pool that's been presented to us or sit on the edge and watch everyone else diving in?
I know people are pissed that money's taken over everything and nobody does anything for the love and tradition of the sport anymore, but that's where we are right now. Do we play in the pool that's been presented to us or sit on the edge and watch everyone else diving in?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:37 pm to UhOhOreo
he buyout would be in the 30M~ range. It's pennies.
If it is "pennies", then why is the university asking me for 10k donations once a month?
I am ok with the extensions and salary increase, but the buyout for without cause should have decreased also. If you don't win enough or lose too much, that should be cause to fire you and not give you a 90% buyout.
If it is "pennies", then why is the university asking me for 10k donations once a month?
I am ok with the extensions and salary increase, but the buyout for without cause should have decreased also. If you don't win enough or lose too much, that should be cause to fire you and not give you a 90% buyout.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:44 pm to Syd
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If it is "pennies", then why is the university asking me for 10k donations once a month?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:08 pm to theballguy
Because Greg Byrne is a fricking idiot..
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:10 pm to FairhopeTider
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Did Courtney Morgan deserve to have his salary doubled? Not just increased….but have his initial salary doubled.
The only thing that fat frick needs increased is his blood pressure medicine.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:12 pm to GooseSix
This statement along with others... show that we have entitled fans.....
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:16 pm to GenesChin
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Per ESPN The buyout is only $10M and decreases by $2M every year after that. For comparison, Auburn paid Hugh Freeze a $15.8M after year 3 despite dumpster diving for him.
That’s HIS buyout if HE leaves. If we want to gif rid of him we owe 90% of remaining contract. So no it’s not a cheap buyout. It’s pretty much a one-way buyout.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:17 pm to UhOhOreo
I tend to think that the future of the average football operation - unless you got a great coach - is to spend a little more of the off the field operation (front office) that is wedded more to the school (franchise) and hire assistants to be head coaches to save money until you got one you want to keep.
Of course, NFL has tampering rules and nobody can hire coaches under contract without asking for permission from the franchise they’re contracted to first. I think college needs that badly. We need to end the cuckoldry routine Jimmy does to ADs every offseason.
Edit: I looked it up during the coaching carousel and my research determined that Eli “2-20 v. Top 25” Drinkwitz is paid more than half the NFL head coaches. That’s Jimmy business at work. We’ve got to just end hiring someone else’s head coach for all time. It will suppress the compensation market on that side and open up more money for the players on the field.
Of course, NFL has tampering rules and nobody can hire coaches under contract without asking for permission from the franchise they’re contracted to first. I think college needs that badly. We need to end the cuckoldry routine Jimmy does to ADs every offseason.
Edit: I looked it up during the coaching carousel and my research determined that Eli “2-20 v. Top 25” Drinkwitz is paid more than half the NFL head coaches. That’s Jimmy business at work. We’ve got to just end hiring someone else’s head coach for all time. It will suppress the compensation market on that side and open up more money for the players on the field.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 6:25 pm
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