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On the clips I saw of 17 running the ball there were some decent holes.

The running game will be helped by having a QB like Keelon back there anyways. His arm will keep linebackers back.
He will be 6th or 7th in yards at the end of this year and probably 3rd in touchdowns after a week or two.
Where does he finish as an all time back when he retires?
Today's practice should give us the best insight on scrimmage starters.

If Hill doesnt get reps with the QBs then its safe to say hes no longer the starter.

Maybe they have hust been trying to throw us off... who knows.
If your woman isnt crazy then it's a man.
Riley seems to have really good vision and instincts.
Hes just limited in his natural talent whereas Dear and Crowell ooze it.
Hill is either getting bumped down the depth chart or has gotten in trouble.
Keelon got an extra rep with the running backs today and it was with EJ Crowell.

Hill did not take snaps with either Mack or Keelon.

Riley led drills with Mack and Dear led the other way with Keelon.

Apparently Keelon has been getting an extra rep with the running backs every practice.
Derreck Meadows is getting a lot of praise.
I agree. RB talent has been clearly at a low lately. There were teams with much worse offensive lines who had RBs capable of making people miss.

We were terrible at RB last season.
I hate it for Hill but hes just not on that level we need.
We have two legit Qbs. Both of them make north of 2 million NIL. Penix said Mack would be a household name. QBs dont usually talk about their backups for no reason at all.

QB is the least of our worries. We will average around 300 yards a game passing and thats a generous number.

Unfortunately only 1 guy can lead the team. I think ultimately the staff knows they can convince Keelon to stay if they start Mack this season. And it could be that DeBoer feels obligated to give Mack a shot or else hed be a first round projected QB starting for Washington right now.
Tua isnt a bust. He is the starting QB for the Falcons.

Miami didnt get fricked by Tua, they got fricked by not protecting him and trying to change their entire offensive philosophy every season.

They were trying to pass the ball with Tyreek and Waddle but had no pass blocking. Then when they finally got pass blockers they draft Achane ans try to run some gimmicky offense.

I think bringing in Tyreek was the real problem. They needed a decent receiver with size and pay for lineman.
LBers and Edge rushers are basically the same thing now.
I know there weren't many holes last season, but itd be nice to just see a RB hit a hole and break some 10- 15 yard runs this season consistently and I just done envision Hill being that back.

He seems like a perfect complimentary back to a star guy.
Hill has been putting in work this off-season. He looks slimmed up and a little quicker.

EJ moves really well though. I dont see how they will keep him off the field.
Riley has good vision. I think he and Crowell end up having nice roles in the offense. Hill looks the part, but i just dont see the production being there.
DeBoer did not provide any separation between the two QBs following the opening practice, but he praised what he saw from the quarterbacks, pointing to their consistency, command and ability to create explosive plays.

“Love the demeanor, love their command, the way they're into it,” DeBoer said. “You can see the belief that the guys have in them.”

Later, DeBoer offered another strong endorsement of the offseason put together by Mack and Russell.

“They had great summers,” DeBoer said. “I mean, they had great summers, both of those two guys.”
Updated weights in Alabama's D-line room entering fall camp:

Terrance Green - 313
Steve Bolo Mboumoua - 303
Kedrick Bingley-Jones - 302
Jeremiah Beaman - 301
London Simmons - 300
Devan Thompkins - 300
Edric Hill - 292
Isaia Faga - 291
Leslie Black - 290
Mhari Johnson - 290
Corey Howard - 288
Nolan Wilson - 285
Caleb Smith - 280
Malique Franklin - 275
Fatutoa Henry - 272
Kalen DeBoer shares his first impressions of Alabama freshman RB EJ Crowell after his first fall camp practice.

"He did some nice things. It's good to see him out there, flying around. A couple times, you see what you saw from his high school highlight film."