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re: Why the hell did we extend DeBoer?
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:13 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:13 pm to phil4bama
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The final four coaches last year were Dan Lanning, Cignetti, Kiffin, and Cristobal
Kiffin has never coached in the college football playoff. So he certainly wasn't one of the final four coaches.
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:19 pm to FairhopeTider
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This for me is the big one. The worst running game in the history of the program and one of the worst in the country is inexcusable at Alabama. The coming year should have been the make-or-break year for him.
We can blame the OL. We can blame the RBs. At the end of the day the troubling thing is this is a trend with Grubb.
With a running game that bad, you blame everyone who touches it. HC, OC, OL coach, RB coach, S&C coach, the players involved, and the individuals who recruited them. No one who touches the running game is without blame. Proctor obviously had enough raw talent and size to go in the first round. That's not enough to have even a mediocre running game.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:08 pm to BamaGradinTn
Proctor played when Proctor wanted too.......scouting report says he takes plays off.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 3:27 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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How many ADs have given awful extensions over the past 20 years? Tons and tons.
One thing some of you young guys don't understand is how to appreciate that there are no "sure" things you can do, unless you have a coach like Saban... which is to just pay whatever you have to. That is easy. We have been on easy-mode since 2007.
This is called educated gambling. Some gambles pay off. Some don't.
I think what people need to do is take a breather and understand that the sport is not the same sport just because it says "college football." It has utterly reformed, mutated and changed in every way. Every AD and admin across the country is learning how to wheel and deal in the new era. The NEW college football (the mini-NFL model) must level out before we really start to understand enough to start making the best decisions we can. For now, it's a bit of a crap shoot. What our admin has done, now, is to signal to future HC prospects is that we will stand behind you when we hire you. We will give you room to breathe, and we will let you cook. That is killer. The contract sums that we see across the nation aren't the same anymore. We can all belly ache and pretend like we know what is too much and what isn't enough... but the projected earnings of our fine university and athletics department are governed by people that DO know more than we do.... and are well within their boundaries to make this call.
I, for one, DO think DeBoer is the right man for now. I think he is willing to make coaching changes beneath him. I think he has had to manage a 3rd quarterback now in 3 years. His defense is wanting. His running game is wanting. Naturally, he'll have to correct those. Fortunately for him, our running game has NOWHERE to go but improvement.
He is recruiting well. Players like him, and in the new system I think the hardcore approach Saban used is not going to be conducive to players wanting to stay. I think that's a part why Saban left. He knew his ways were not going to corale these kids the same way as it always did.
What will be interesting to see is how much Saban will now approach giving power back to the coaches, and stability to the new system. THAT TOO will require some patience for every fanbase and coaching staff.
Point is..... we are in totally uncharted waters. Everyone is. For now, I think you hold what you got and you do it early so it costs you less later.
There's a lot that goes into all this crap. Especially when the wheel gets reinvented.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:02 pm to m2pro
You are putting sprinkles on a doo-doo cucake. Deboer is the complete antithesis of Saban in every way and won't even seek Saban's input for anything related to the program. Plus he thinks Grubb is the answer at OC. Deboer will never take Bama to championship levels. Especially now that he has gutted the program from anything Saban left behind. Bama is in the process of decline. We just haven't seen the complete fruition yet.............And yes, I hope I am wrong and will be the first one back to eat crow if he suddenly turns it around. But his soft and finesse style is not going to cut it.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:26 pm to Shocco
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and won't even seek Saban's input for anything related to the program
How do you know this?
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Plus he thinks Grubb is the answer at OC.
Saban did as well. He tried to hire him. Twice.
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Deboer will never take Bama to championship levels.
Playing in the SEC championship game and playoffs in year 2 isn't a championship level?
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Especially now that he has gutted the program from anything Saban left behind
There are literally still assistant, and strength/conditioning coaches on staff that were employed by Saban along with still having the team go through the 4th quarter program.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:34 pm to AuburnTider
Believe what you want. I am not here to convince you otherwise....38-3
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:38 pm to Shocco
The players just seem like such pussies compared to when Saban was coaching.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:38 pm to Shocco
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But his soft and finesse style is not going to cut it.
A lot of coaches have won national titles (and state championships and Super Bowls for that matter) with a lot of different coaching styles - both schematically and in terms of leadership. At the end of the day, it’s mostly about the studs on the field.
I don’t know that much about the contract situation, but it seemed a little premature, in my opinion. There’s been so many situations where a coach signed a new contract and the bottom fell out and the program was left paying tens of millions in a buyout.
I think I heard that the original deal was through 2031? Seems they could have waited at least another year to see how things develop.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:03 pm to theballguy
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The players just seem like such pussies compared to when Saban was coaching.
It’s because they are. Most of them don’t want to put in the hard work and dedication to be elite. It’s hard to develop a kid when you are his 4th position coach in 5 years thanks to the portal. And you’re also seeing players make “business decisions” and take themselves out of games or half-arse it. Today’s players are fools gold: they may look like a 1st round draft choice on the outside but soft as a baby’s bottom inside.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:11 pm to AuburnTider
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Playing in the SEC championship game and playoffs in year 2 isn't a championship level?
Not when you aren’t competitive in both losses. BK’s ND made the NC game and the 4 team playoff. They weren’t playing at a championship level…they had zero chance (Richt’s UGA team on the other hand, was. We barely won that SECCG and they would have murdered ND for the title as well).
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:52 pm to theballguy
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Why the hell did we hire Rob Vaughn
FIFY
Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:51 am to theballguy
Greg Byrne is a modern day warrior and is BBQ buddies with Sankey and Finebaum.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 10:38 pm to Shocco
Agreed. We can do better than DeBoer.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 10:48 pm to theballguy
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Agreed. We can do better than DeBoer.
Oh yeah? Then who? Give me one name of an elite coach who is leaving his current situation to come to Alabama.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 11:02 pm to theballguy
My only problem with DeBoer is that his teams are significantly weaker physically than Saban teams. The O line last year was atrocious. Indiana looked like a vintage Saban team and they beat us like a drum. Same as Georgia.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 7:13 am to RollTide33
quote:That is such a wuss mindset in so many ways.
Oh yeah? Then who? Give me one name of an elite coach who is leaving his current situation to come to Alabama.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:13 am to RollTide33
Eh you probably right. Why would anyone want to come to broke arse Alabama anyways?
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