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re: Alabama can't win anything much - their rushing offense will kill them
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/12/25 at 1:29 pm to SidewalkTiger
You are right and I am an absolute doofus who looked at the wrong column on the stat sheet. Edited my post accordingly.
re: Alabama can't win anything much - their rushing offense will kill them
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/12/25 at 7:27 am to TrendingRight
I acknowledge the issues but I am not going into a game with a defeatist attitude, we’re going to win Saturday. I’m going to believe that until the clock is at zero.
But this of course is a huge topic of discussion on the Alabama board. I keep saying the issues are that we don’t have any really elite backs and, above all, we don’t have the kind of offensive line that DeBoer and Grubb need to do their stuff, their OL criteria is 180 degrees removed from Saban’s.
The running game is an essential part of their stuff, but their scheme depends on quickness rather than bulk in the OL.
People are saying they ought to change what they do because of the personnel, but we hired them to do what they do, not to do what Saban did. Is it really fair to ask them to throw out their playbook just because they inherited another man with different ideas’ roster?
There was always going to be a transition time and we’re still in the middle of that transition, but because we could’ve played for the big trophy last year if we weren’t hamstrung by our QB and the staff still getting used to the proposition that there are no down weeks ever in the SEC, and we have a shot at playing for the big trophy this year even though we can’t run the ball for caca, people are impatient and looking for an immediate fix when the only fix is all Saban’s players being gone and all of DeBoer’s and Grunb’s players being in.
But this of course is a huge topic of discussion on the Alabama board. I keep saying the issues are that we don’t have any really elite backs and, above all, we don’t have the kind of offensive line that DeBoer and Grubb need to do their stuff, their OL criteria is 180 degrees removed from Saban’s.
The running game is an essential part of their stuff, but their scheme depends on quickness rather than bulk in the OL.
People are saying they ought to change what they do because of the personnel, but we hired them to do what they do, not to do what Saban did. Is it really fair to ask them to throw out their playbook just because they inherited another man with different ideas’ roster?
There was always going to be a transition time and we’re still in the middle of that transition, but because we could’ve played for the big trophy last year if we weren’t hamstrung by our QB and the staff still getting used to the proposition that there are no down weeks ever in the SEC, and we have a shot at playing for the big trophy this year even though we can’t run the ball for caca, people are impatient and looking for an immediate fix when the only fix is all Saban’s players being gone and all of DeBoer’s and Grunb’s players being in.
re: Film Guy did a 28 minute video on WTH is wrong with our run game.
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/11/25 at 9:30 pm to Tide or Die87
Is it really fair to expect them to change what they do simply because they took a job at a place with another guy who did things differently’s recruits?
We hired them to do what they do, not to do what Nick Saban did. And there was always going to be a transition period. The problem is last year we could’ve been much better if we hadn’t been hamstrung at QB and this year we are in the running to play for the big trophy with all the flaws, and fans see that we’re on the verge and are impatient and want them to rub a genie’s lamp and make things work right now even though we are still in the middle of a transition.
And again at full efficiency this is not a lopsided pass vs. run offense. In fact Washington in 2023, taking Penix’s 11 sacks out of the equation, had four more runs than passes, 380 to 376.
We hired them to do what they do, not to do what Nick Saban did. And there was always going to be a transition period. The problem is last year we could’ve been much better if we hadn’t been hamstrung at QB and this year we are in the running to play for the big trophy with all the flaws, and fans see that we’re on the verge and are impatient and want them to rub a genie’s lamp and make things work right now even though we are still in the middle of a transition.
And again at full efficiency this is not a lopsided pass vs. run offense. In fact Washington in 2023, taking Penix’s 11 sacks out of the equation, had four more runs than passes, 380 to 376.
re: Film Guy did a 28 minute video on WTH is wrong with our run game.
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/11/25 at 8:06 pm to UASports23
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DeBoer/Grubbs still hasn’t fully implemented their scheme, IMO. The way they utilize OL is not what we are used to. They’ve always used the undersized athletes vs big maulers.
I’ve said this a million times and people aren’t hearing it, they’re stuck in how things were done during the Saban era and their recipes for fixing it are out of the Saban era and involve DeBoer and Grubb basically ditching all they do and believe in schematically.
Perhaps we should get a new OL coach after the season, perhaps a change in leadership is needed to help get things across to people. But while the rushing game is essential to their offense working, and you absolutely need to be able to muscle up and get a yard or two when you absolutely have to have it, it’s never going to be an old-school Alabama ground game as long as they are running the program.
re: We’re going to beat Oklahoma’s arse Saturday
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/11/25 at 4:08 pm to SoFla Tideroller
I want us to execute well but if we get out of this game with one more point than them I will be overjoyed. Style points are irrelevant in who gets to play for the big trophy.
re: UCLA to Play Home Games at SoFi Stadium
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/11/25 at 1:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
How it would have been for baseball. The foul lines would still have been short but they’d have at least been consistent unlike the short LF porch in the Coliseum and the power alleys would have been OK. There wouldn’t have been any homers to dead center though.


re: UCLA to Play Home Games at SoFi Stadium
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/11/25 at 1:07 pm to NOLALGD
They have all kinds of things at the Rose Bowl but one thing you have to realize that the thing has another ritzy golf/country club on one side of it and a large upscale residential area on the other side of it and the people who live and play around it don’t want the thing in use 365 days a year and a bunch of interlopers coming in and getting in their way.
The Rose Bowl was actually Walter O’Malley’s first choice after he moved the Dodgers to California for a temporary home while Dodger Stadium was being built, but the residents around there raised unbridled Cain/hell about the prospect of 77 (at the time) home games with tens of thousands of people clogging their neighborhood and the Pasadena City Council put a stop to it. Too bad because it would have been a MUCH superior baseball venue than the LA Coliseum.
The Rose Bowl was actually Walter O’Malley’s first choice after he moved the Dodgers to California for a temporary home while Dodger Stadium was being built, but the residents around there raised unbridled Cain/hell about the prospect of 77 (at the time) home games with tens of thousands of people clogging their neighborhood and the Pasadena City Council put a stop to it. Too bad because it would have been a MUCH superior baseball venue than the LA Coliseum.
re: Film Guy did a 28 minute video on WTH is wrong with our run game.
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/11/25 at 7:54 am to TS1926
Some people are never going to be happy with a “non-tough, non-prioritizing hard-nosed running first” offense. It is what it is.
re: RIP: NBA legend Lenny Wilkens
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/10/25 at 8:25 pm to dukke v
I don’t recall anyone who didn’t like Wilkens, he was sheer class.
re: We’re going to beat Oklahoma’s arse Saturday
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/10/25 at 8:22 pm to Diego Ricardo
I may get this thrown back in my face Saturday but I’ll be damned if I go into a Bama football game expecting to lose. Again I acknowledge the issues but I have faith.
re: We’re going to beat Oklahoma’s arse Saturday
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/10/25 at 5:04 pm to BFANLC
I wish I could take credit for arse but I used the three-letter word and the board changed it
We’re going to beat Oklahoma’s arse Saturday
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/10/25 at 9:32 am
I’m aware of and acknowledge everything that has been discussed here the last few days. I know there are issues. I know we can’t run the ball for caca. I’m not pumping sunshine.
But I woke up this morning thinking I’ll be damned if I’m going to go into this game in a spirit of fear or thinking that we’re beat before there’s a snap in the game.
Downvote me massively or get on board, whatever floats your boat, but I’m going to have confidence that my team will find a way to get this done until I’m proven wrong.
RTR
But I woke up this morning thinking I’ll be damned if I’m going to go into this game in a spirit of fear or thinking that we’re beat before there’s a snap in the game.
Downvote me massively or get on board, whatever floats your boat, but I’m going to have confidence that my team will find a way to get this done until I’m proven wrong.
RTR
RIP: NBA legend Lenny Wilkens
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/10/25 at 6:56 am
Hell of a player, hell of a coach (inducted into the Hall of Fame as each) back in the days when the NBA was watchable.
Lenny Wilkens dies at 88
Lenny Wilkens dies at 88
re: Our running game is an embarrassment.
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/10/25 at 6:29 am to jellyhead
I guess I should have used different terminology than “air raid.” What I meant was that at full efficiency DeBoer’s and Grubb’s offense is much more balanced in pass to run ratio than a lot of people probably think.
re: Our running game is an embarrassment.
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/9/25 at 6:58 pm to Syd
Re>schemes, so DeBoer and Grubb should simply drop what they’ve spent their entire careers doing because they came somewhere that didn’t have the personnel to execute what they do, instead of trying to remake the personnel to bring it in line with what they do? Which takes time.
And Proctor probably will be a first-day choice, but again he’s 180 degrees removed from the kind of offensive linemen DeBoer and Grubb want to run their stuff, no matter how many stars are attached to his name.
And Proctor probably will be a first-day choice, but again he’s 180 degrees removed from the kind of offensive linemen DeBoer and Grubb want to run their stuff, no matter how many stars are attached to his name.
re: Offensive Line and Running Backs Worst since…
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/9/25 at 1:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
And the problem was they had a s**t offensive line too and this year they’re a whopping 22nd in YPG and 31st in yards per carry, a robust 3.7 yards a play. So maybe it wasn’t all Grubb?
re: Offensive Line and Running Backs Worst since…
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/9/25 at 1:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
As someone noted, their final year at Washington, they had a 1,200-yard rusher who averaged 17 carries a game and scored 16 touchdowns. And if you throw Penix completely out of the mix to account for any sacks, they had 356 rushing plays to 376 passing plays. DeBoer and Grubb do not run an air raid.
The problem is that what they ideally … I will say that again, IDEALLY, I think they are just throwing s**t against the wall right now in hopes that something will click … want to do with the running game as far as plays and especially offensive blocking schemes is not what old-school Alabama fans want out of a running game.
And people are upset because we have a chance at the big trophy right now, and here we are throwing s**t against the wall with the running game without elite backs and with linemen like Proctor who they’d have never recruited in a zillion years but people like that is what Saban wanted.
The problem is that what they ideally … I will say that again, IDEALLY, I think they are just throwing s**t against the wall right now in hopes that something will click … want to do with the running game as far as plays and especially offensive blocking schemes is not what old-school Alabama fans want out of a running game.
And people are upset because we have a chance at the big trophy right now, and here we are throwing s**t against the wall with the running game without elite backs and with linemen like Proctor who they’d have never recruited in a zillion years but people like that is what Saban wanted.
re: Offensive Line and Running Backs Worst since…
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/9/25 at 10:24 am to SoFla Tideroller
That ain’t what these coaches do although there are times when you absolutely have to do that.
re: Offensive Line and Running Backs Worst since…
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/9/25 at 10:14 am to Diego Ricardo
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They had a pretty good run scheme at UDub but it was a complimentary run game. They did have a game or two where they ran all over some teams though. Their 2023 team had a ~1200 yard rusher in 15 games. So ~80 ypg on the ground from their starting tailback. How many times has that happened in almost two seasons here? Frankly, we aren't seeing that scheme here because our linemen are not good at pull and cross blocks as a unit. Our center is our best at executing pull blocks but it is hard to build a run plan around a center pulling a ton.
Thank you for explaining what I have been trying to explain, a lot better than I was doing it.
re: Offensive Line and Running Backs Worst since…
Posted by InkStainedWretch on 11/9/25 at 8:55 am to bamarep
DeBoer’s and Grubb’s running game when at full efficiency prioritizes the perimeters.
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