InkStainedWretch

Debt-to-GDP is the more relevant number than raw debt, and I stopped looking at country of manufacture 40 years ago. I look at products and buy what I like the best and what suits my needs. If it comes from the US, super. If it comes from Albania, I don't care.

This is the world I was referring to, from another post:

And it’s not likely to contribute one iota toward what POTUS has convinced his most rabid followers that he’s going to do … bring back old-school smokestack manufacturing to the US so that people with a high school education or less who love their mamas and Jesus and have strong backs and good work ethics and can say yes sir and no sir can make comfortable middle class livings.

My fear is how those people are going to react when they find out at the end of the day that the world they seek is never coming back, ever, because it doesn’t exist anymore and no tariffs will restore it.

There was a story in the British paper The Telegraph recently where they went to West Virginia and talked to coal miners who have been reduced to poverty by the move away from coal and the constant refrain was how they want to get even with everyone who’s preventing them from living the kinds of lives they want to and working the kind of jobs they want to … changing and adapting instead of clinging to those things are simply not considerations … and I fear that is going to be the final act of this.

But it’s easy to yell “China first.”


You will no doubt accuse me of stereotyping the people I described. On the contrary, that describes my father to a T and he was one of the finest men ever to draw breath. He worked for nearly 40 years at a steel plant. I would not be where I am today without what he did there and the opportunities he had there. As his father did before him.

But I also realize that s**t changes and it's silly to cling to something as a birthright or an entitlement instead of accepting that it's not there anymore and adapting and doing what it takes to function in the new world.

I'd like to think my father, who had many skills, would have found a way to adapt. Nobody is getting their foot into a modern manufacturing facility, even as janitor in a place that makes toothpicks, unless you have been trained past the secondary level to possess a specific desirable skill.

The POTUS has tried to convince his followers otherwise; again there's going to be hell to pay when they find out it was all a work, because I understand their attraction to the man because they think they have been s**t upon and ignored and marginalized for 50 years and are desperate for an advocate and they don't really have anything to lose anymore.

And given some of the talk on the Political Board, which I tried to dive into gingerly and am not revisiting, they've morphed from traditional conservatism practically into Bolshevik class warfare.

So what's coming out of the White House isn't politics?

This may sound like fear mongering but I think there are people in Riyadh and Dubai who would be all over this s**t.

Yeah it’s hard to tell how significant this is. Was hoping to see what folks thought but I guess they want to ignore and downvote. I guess they think I like this. I don’t, it scares the piss out of me.

Serious answer to your question in the OP? Not colored by personal dislike of the guy and his daddy?

It's up to him.

Kiper is a doofus and should have been taken off the set in a straitjacket, especially yesterday, but I promise you, with metaphysical certainty, that he didn’t personally write that headline. It doesn’t work that way.

I don't know, he acts like he's related to this kid or something, it's like he's about to cry when he discusses this.

And comparing him to Jim Brown as far as the potential impact on the Browns in this second video? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Again, I think the man just worships at the hem of the garment of Deion Sanders.

If he guy really is “Him,” as Skip Bayless was babbling, he’ll take this as a challenge and shut up and get to work and show his s**t. Like you said it’s up to him.

I’ll ask this: Bayless was babbling about how Deion raised his son for this moment.

If that’s the case, then when you get right down to it, what is the difference at least philosophically … I know the name I am about to mention was much crazier, but I think my point is valid .. between Deion and Marv Marinovich?