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Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:55 pm to BobLeeDagger
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You'd have 10 teams tops watching college football. It would die so fast.
It reminds me of pro wrestling. Vince McMahon thought he wanted to own all of wrestling, and bring all of those promotions into one house - the WWF.
Until he did it. Then - he learned that you need various promotions in different parts of the country on different channels - to sustain interest. His better move, in hindsight, was to buy those promotions, keep them running, and then book a big show as often as the market would allow between their regional champions and his champion. Which was how the NWA did it for decades.
College football will be no different. One "super league" where the "poors" get pushed out will be a disaster. No - Ohio State, Alabama, ND, Michigan, GA, Clemson, LSU, Penn ST, A&M, and OU don't want to form a mega conference - because that's a guaranteed 45 losses they have to share between themselves.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:57 pm to Jjdoc
I'd swap Missouri and South Carolina for FSU and Clemson today.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:57 pm to ScoggDog
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College football will be no different. One "super league" where the "poors" get pushed out will be a disaster. No - Ohio State, Alabama, ND, Michigan, GA, Clemson, LSU, Penn ST, A&M, and OU don't want to form a mega conference - because that's a guaranteed 45 losses they have to share between themselves.
Precisely. OP doesn't realize that statistically speaking some of those "blue bloods" will historically finish below .500 for sustained periods of time. No schools is going to shatter their image and be a doormat in an "elite league" just for more money. Money is the driver, but it is not the end all be all.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:58 pm to Sao
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Bitch, Agricultural hasn't accomplished a damn thing in sports since 1876. You don't have a single legacy except your BQ Band.
Calm down bro! lol
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:01 pm to RebelTheBear
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Explain to me how alienating 80 fan bases across the country will lead to an increase in revenue/viewership.
They are alienated now. With a super league, the sport becomes more competitive. Therefore more people watch.
This isn't hard to understand. Imagine the SEC west without Bama and LSU. Its more competitive.
Imagine Bama having to play Clemson, Uf, Uga, and OSu in a POD. Way more competitive than them playing Ole Miss, Msu, UK, Vandy...etc.
More people watch.
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Also, in your proposed super-league, what do you think will happen when Michigan and Miami end up losing 80% of their games because they have to play Alabama, OSU, Clemson, etc every week?
The whole system is changing. NiL and the portal was the testing grounds.
They will put in restrictions and distribute the the talent as equally as they can to keep it competitive. But the amount of recruits that keep 126 teams competitive is not there.
You know it... I know it. But 24 to 28 teams.... yep.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:03 pm to Jjdoc
You truly are an idiot. Those 24-28 teams will eat each other and then you'll be on here talking about creating a new league eliminating the bottom feeders of that league.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:07 pm to ScoggDog
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In your mind, create a mythical conference with the ten best teams in the country, all playing each other over a nine game season. What will you end up with - ten juggernauts ?
Why 10? I never stated 10.
No. In my mind it creates a league that is competitive week in and week out.
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No - you will not. You'll end up with a couple elite teams, a few middling teams, and a couple losers. Because losing to the best, week in and week out, does nothing except diminish fan support for those brands. They will not, over the course of a few seasons, remain one of ten best teams.
Not if you put in place a system where the talent pool is divided evenly.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:07 pm to Jjdoc
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They will put in restrictions and distribute the the talent as equally as they can to keep it competitive. But the amount of recruits that keep 126 teams competitive is not there.
So you think boosters and regional corps are going to pump money into the system for the benefit of recruiting the best talent - and then some oversight agency will make sure that talent gets "spread around" - negating the advantage of spending a dime on recruiting ?
Dude - just stop. Or don't. But you are making absolutely no sense. None.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:10 pm to BobLeeDagger
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That would be the most saturated product of all time. You'd have 10 teams
not 10.
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10 teams tops watching college football. It would die so fast.
Talk about shortsighted. Do you think that ESPN is going to walk away from money? No.
The super league will generate super $$$
The SEC will have a contract too where all the fans of MSU will still watch.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:11 pm to Jjdoc
What fans in their right minds are going to watch their school compete for a bullshite, level two championship? Are you going to point to the FCS and tell me that model is working really well? How about the XFL or the CFL? Because that’s exactly what you create if you alienate the Ole Miss’s if the world.
Furthermore, why should any fans outside of your proposed super conference watch any super conference games? Alabama vs. Ohio State already didn’t get any views. That game no longer means anything to me if you remove Ole Miss from the CFP level.
Do you think that NDSU fans were salivating at the mouth at the thought of the 2020 CFP Championship, or that NFL fans were so enthralled by the XFL or the CFL? Mass expansion/development of new leagues is a gimmick that won’t draw in more interest over time. It’ll just kill the game.
Parity is important in sports. That’s what makes it interesting. Ole Miss beating Alabama is fun to watch. Kansas beating Texas is fun to watch. What do you have when you take away the big upset stories like that? You have a watered down version of the NFL, and nobody watches the NFL.
Furthermore, why should any fans outside of your proposed super conference watch any super conference games? Alabama vs. Ohio State already didn’t get any views. That game no longer means anything to me if you remove Ole Miss from the CFP level.
Do you think that NDSU fans were salivating at the mouth at the thought of the 2020 CFP Championship, or that NFL fans were so enthralled by the XFL or the CFL? Mass expansion/development of new leagues is a gimmick that won’t draw in more interest over time. It’ll just kill the game.
Parity is important in sports. That’s what makes it interesting. Ole Miss beating Alabama is fun to watch. Kansas beating Texas is fun to watch. What do you have when you take away the big upset stories like that? You have a watered down version of the NFL, and nobody watches the NFL.
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:12 pm to ScoggDog
Once you are in the club, you are in the club forever. I could possible see teams leave the SEC if it gets to big.
However, IF teams were to leave it would be where we have a second school in smaller states, such as:
Vandy (Tennessee has the TVs covered)
MSU (Ole Miss has the TVs Covered)
Auburn (Bama has the TVS covered), less likely to happen based on tradition, but you never know. Could move to the new ACC with OSU, N.Dame and Michigan.
However, IF teams were to leave it would be where we have a second school in smaller states, such as:
Vandy (Tennessee has the TVs covered)
MSU (Ole Miss has the TVs Covered)
Auburn (Bama has the TVS covered), less likely to happen based on tradition, but you never know. Could move to the new ACC with OSU, N.Dame and Michigan.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:14 pm to BobLeeDagger
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Those 24-28 teams will eat each other and then you'll be on here talking about creating a new league eliminating the bottom feeders of that league.
LOL! WOW. Yes. You will have a different system where teams won't go 12-0. You will have more of a NFL type system with a play off.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:17 pm to Jjdoc
Why 10? I never stated 10. No. In my mind it creates a league that is competitive week in and week out.
A league that is perfectly competitive - regardless of how many teams are in it - would be populated by nothing but teams that are .500. Nobody is going to watch that for long.
It's not going to happen - at least as long as somebody understands you need the "poors". As long as the poorest team has a chance to beat somebody, as long as they attract even the slightest betting interest and generate just enough suspense to make game day more than a glorified spring practice - that poor serves a purpose.
A league that is perfectly competitive - regardless of how many teams are in it - would be populated by nothing but teams that are .500. Nobody is going to watch that for long.
It's not going to happen - at least as long as somebody understands you need the "poors". As long as the poorest team has a chance to beat somebody, as long as they attract even the slightest betting interest and generate just enough suspense to make game day more than a glorified spring practice - that poor serves a purpose.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:18 pm to Jjdoc
I'm thinking at least one of the Mississippi school. Possible TN too.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:21 pm to Jjdoc
not a damn one.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:21 pm to SneezyBeltran
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we will have one conference with all the bluebloods likely sponsored by the NFL. You will have Ohio State, meatchicken, Clemson, FSU, ND, maybe USC that need to fit into that conference.
Even the Globetortters needed the Washington Generals.
You put all the bluebloods in the same conference and half the league will eventually become a Nebraska blueblood.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:25 pm to ScoggDog
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So you think boosters and regional corps are going to pump money into the system for the benefit of recruiting the best talent - and then some oversight agency will make sure that talent gets "spread around" - negating the advantage of spending a dime on recruiting ?
I think the league will be done with the NCAA. They will place caps in recruiting (you have them now... by oversight)
There are enough 4 and 5 stars to sustain 24 teams at 15 recruits per year. That's not including the Portal.
Boosters will still have a place within the structure of NIL.
If you are a 4 star or 5 star... you are going to the money.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:26 pm to Mizz-SEC
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You put all the bluebloods in the same conference and half the league will eventually become a Nebraska blueblood.
Exactly. To have a winner, you must have a loser. Lose enough - and you're no longer a winner in the macro sense. Yet - losers are necessary in such a system.
College is not the NFL. Parity is not the goal of the exercise. What we are watching is the collapse of the NCAA - precisely because trying to impose parity on a playing field that is anything but level is completely irrational.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:26 pm to Jjdoc
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The SEC will have a contract too where all the fans of MSU will still watch.
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