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Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:27 pm to Jjdoc
Money will be the death of college football. You are leaving out one critical factor, the teams of a super league would still represent institutions of learning. They’re not clubs or businesses where they regulate themselves.
Frankly, college football is getting too big. When it starts to interfere with the missions of schools to educate their students, all of their students, then football will be shut down or pulled back to an amateur status, like the Ivy League.
NIL will be a disaster. Already, it’s very difficult for bigtime schools to engage students who are there just for football, basketball or another bigtime sport. The one-and-done era of college basketball is a joke regarding top players. Very few even go to class. It’s a nightmare that will now be seen in all sports because of NIL.
I think we need to shut it all down and start over. It’s out of hand and uncontrollable.
Frankly, college football is getting too big. When it starts to interfere with the missions of schools to educate their students, all of their students, then football will be shut down or pulled back to an amateur status, like the Ivy League.
NIL will be a disaster. Already, it’s very difficult for bigtime schools to engage students who are there just for football, basketball or another bigtime sport. The one-and-done era of college basketball is a joke regarding top players. Very few even go to class. It’s a nightmare that will now be seen in all sports because of NIL.
I think we need to shut it all down and start over. It’s out of hand and uncontrollable.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:28 pm to BobLeeDagger
I agree BLD. Why should we watch the super conference when we aren’t a part of it? Most college football fans aren’t football purists, meaning they won’t watch football for the sake of the sport.
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:28 pm to Jjdoc
Get back to the poli board.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:31 pm to Jjdoc
The Mega conferences that I have seen being discussed usually include the top 70 teams.
Maybe Vanderbilt? But I doubt it, they will be fine.
Go away!
Maybe Vanderbilt? But I doubt it, they will be fine.
Go away!
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:32 pm to RebelTheBear
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What fans in their right minds are going to watch their school compete for a bullshite, level two championship?
Fans.
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Are you going to point to the FCS and tell me that model is working really well? How about the XFL or the CFL? Because that’s exactly what you create if you alienate the Ole Miss’s if the world.
No. I'm going to point to the facts. Ole Miss is not a NDSU. You graduate way more. You have a bigger alumni....etc.
The XFL started with no fans. The comparison doesn't work.
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Furthermore, why should any fans outside of your proposed super conference watch any super conference games? Alabama vs. Ohio State already didn’t get any views. That game no longer means anything to me if you remove Ole Miss from the CFP level.
The same reason why I watch College and not the NFL.
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Parity is important in sports. That’s what makes it interesting. Ole Miss beating Alabama is fun to watch. Kansas beating Texas is fun to watch. What do you have when you take away the big upset stories like that? You have a watered down version of the NFL, and nobody watches the NFL.
I agree with you to a degree.
But you will still have the upsets. La Tech beating Ole Miss. Tulane beating Ark...
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:33 pm to Jjdoc
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There are enough 4 and 5 stars to sustain 24 teams at 15 recruits per year. That's not including the Portal. Boosters will still have a place within the structure of NIL. If you are a 4 star or 5 star... you are going to the money.
You are insane. You honestly think the top 360 recruits every year will all go, in lock step, to play in your magical 24 team super conference, where they can sit behind the other top 360 recruits from two years ago, before they get a chance to play - not look all that great maybe against semi-pro competition, and enjoy a typica .500 season ?
And not one team outside that top 24 will offer a dollar for them to come play where they can win a whole Hell of a lot more, get more exposure, and as such get drafted to the NFL anyway ?
Yes - you are out of your mind. Or you haven't thought this through and now you're just being stubborn. Either way - your vision isn't how it's going to work. It defies human nature.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:33 pm to Jjdoc
If “ESPN losing money” stops individual schools from making more the individual schools will tell ESPN to frick off and go to Bezos
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:34 pm to ScoggDog
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A league that is perfectly competitive - regardless of how many teams are in it - would be populated by nothing but teams that are .500. Nobody is going to watch that for long.
Yet they will.
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It's not going to happen - at least as long as somebody understands you need the "poors". As long as the poorest team has a chance to beat somebody, as long as they attract even the slightest betting interest and generate just enough suspense to make game day more than a glorified spring practice - that poor serves a purpose.
And you will have that to a degree in the super league
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:36 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Permaban bet this never happens.
can see teams like Ark, MSU, Ole Miss, UT, UK, Mizzou and Vandy being pushed out.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:37 pm to ScoggDog
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Exactly. To have a winner, you must have a loser. Lose enough - and you're no longer a winner in the macro sense. Yet - losers are necessary in such a system.
Who is going to the play offs this year? Exactly.
In the new league, that is open for debate.
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College is not the NFL. Parity is not the goal of the exercise. What we are watching is the collapse of the NCAA - precisely because trying to impose parity on a playing field that is anything but level is completely irrational.
Right, because the college is attached to the team. In the NFL, it's not that way.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:38 pm to Jjdoc
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And you will have that to a degree in the super league
In your twenty four team super league - it's something like Auburn upsetting Ohio State on their way to the usual 3-7 season. Think Auburn fans are down with that ?
You're talking twenty four team, dude. Ole Miss and Tulane don't make that cut.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:39 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Yep it will never happen.. Ark , Ole Miss , MSU , UT , Vandyl and Mizzou are not going anywhere.. Mizzo may goto B1G but other then that don't see anything els happening.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:39 pm to BobLeeDagger
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The SEC will have a contract too where all the fans of MSU will still watch.
It's real simple. You seemed to be suggesting that the new league would leave the old SEC with out TV contracts and that is not the case.
ESPN would still have to fill those time spots that they have now. Therefore... still TV contracts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:40 pm to Jjdoc
Arkansas was 16th I believe in athletic revenue last year, and the year before. Arkansas isn’t going anywhere.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:40 pm to Jjdoc
Stupid and Confident is quite the mixture. Truly impressive hole you've dug yourself in here.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:42 pm to Jjdoc
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It's real simple. You seemed to be suggesting that the new league would leave the old SEC with out TV contracts and that is not the case.
ESPN would still have to fill those time spots that they have now. Therefore... still TV contracts
I can't argue with stupid.
So let me get this right, you demote State and you think the fans will just carry on with the status quo? Go from playing Bama, LSU, etc. to La Tech, ULM, ULL type schools and fans will continue to watch and show up at the same rate. Generate the same viewership on tv, same revenue through concessions, and all the meanwhile, have all these same fans actually care about what other elite teams are doing in a league above them. You are fricking retarded. I'm sorry. You would lose more than half of your season tickets holders the day this is announced.
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:44 pm to Kentucker
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Money will be the death of college football.
Yes sir. We agree on that.
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You are leaving out one critical factor, the teams of a super league would still represent institutions of learning. They’re not clubs or businesses where they regulate themselves.
What do you think the NCAA is? The new league will have a governing body by choice and it will not be the NCAA.
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When it starts to interfere with the missions of schools to educate their students, all of their students, then football will be shut down or pulled back to an amateur status, like the Ivy League.
Play to represent you team is a myth these days.
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NIL will be a disaster. Already, it’s very difficult for bigtime schools to engage students who are there just for football, basketball or another bigtime sport. The one-and-done era of college basketball is a joke regarding top players. Very few even go to class. It’s a nightmare that will now be seen in all sports because of NIL.
They created a pro league foundation that's link to universities.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:50 pm to SneezyBeltran
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:52 pm to Jjdoc
I cannot see anyone being booted out of the conference. And, it's not absolutely all about the money, surprisingly. The Big 10 and Pac 12 apparently don't favor OU because they're not AAU, and Jim Delaney finally admitted that not taking Mizzou was a mistake, in part because they're AAU.
To be clear, the money is clearly the main driver, but that's clearly not the only consideration for all involved.
To be clear, the money is clearly the main driver, but that's clearly not the only consideration for all involved.
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