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re: The beautiful state capitols of the Southeastern Conference
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:55 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:55 am to GetCocky11
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Yep, but wasn't the old State House still in use at the time? The old State House was completely burned down in that fire and a lot of valuable stuff was lost. I read that the old State House was designed by the same guy who designed the White House, James Hoban.
From the State House site:
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Columbia was the location of South Carolina’s second State House. The legislature first met in this State House in 1790. At the intersection of Senate and Richardson (now Main) Streets, the structure was built of wood with a brick basement. By the 1840’s the State House had deteriorated and repairs were being made frequently. The General Assembly had become concerned that official public records being stored in the State House would be damaged as a result of the deteriorating conditions; so, in 1850 they decided to build a fireproof building next to the State House. The fireproof building would serve as storage for the official public records and as a wing to yet a third State House, the second in Columbia, which would become the present State House. Construction began in December 1851. John L. Manning (1852-1854) was the Governor of South Carolina at this time and recommended erecting a new State House. In 1854 the General Assembly appropriated $50,000 to complete the fireproof building and to begin the next section for use as the new State House. P.H. Hammarskold was the project architect; but, in June 1854 the State dismissed him after finding his work unsuitable and findings of structural flaws in the construction.
Hammarskold’s replacement was Major John R. Niernsee of Baltimore, Maryland. Niernsee completely dismantled the construction by Hammarskold resulting in a loss of $72,267 to the State. Niernsee began construction in 1854 with plans to complete the building in five years. By 1857 it rose to the top of the basement window-heads. On October 1, 1860, Niernsee reported that the structure had risen nearly sixty-six feet above the foot of the foundation and that the "absolute value of the work put into the building" was $1,240,063. "The Corinthian granite capitals, some 64," he said, were "being executed in a style and finish heretofore unequalled in that line."
Destruction in Columbia, February 1865 - General William T. Sherman and his Union army captured the State Capital on February 17, 1865 leaving city-wide destruction. The old State House was destroyed by fire. Niernsee reported it cracked five "bells of St. Michael's Church, Charleston," which had been "sent up here some time ago" and "deposited under one of the sheds." It consumed the valuable State House library, offices and workshops, a vast quantity of finished marble and rough material, estimated by Niernsee to be worth $700,000; and, Niernsee's library of architectural and scientific books, engravings and several thousand drawings, the result of his practice of twenty-five years. "These," said Niernsee, along with "one of the latest and best busts of Calhoun" and all the valuable detail State House drawings, contracts, and so forth, which had accumulated during Niernsee's ten years on the job, "were utterly swept away during that terrible night--an irreparable loss." A monument is displayed on the grounds where the old State House stood. The inscription reads:
HERE STOOD THE STATE HOUSE BUILT 1786-1790 JAMES HOBAN ARCHITECT BURNED BY SHERMAN’S TROOPS FEBRUARY 17, 1865
Additionally, work on the new State House was suspended as it was also set afire. The interior of the structure received the most damage. Shells from Sherman's cannons, which were of light caliber, damaged the building only slightly, and brass markers were subsequently placed on the west and southwest walls of the building to show where the shots had landed. Ten were fired in all. Six "struck the western front," with little damage "except one which shattered the moulded windowsill and balusters of the second window (from the northern end) of the Hall of the House of Representatives." Four struck the interior of the building.
If I'm reading this right, the old state house was completely burned down but the current state house was already under construction.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:58 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:00 am to theGarnetWay
This is my first post. I feel accomplished.
Hello All
I love my great state of Alabama but without a question Montgomery is terrible. When I stayed there while going through MEPS we were instructed to never leave the hotel after 5PM without at least 5 people.
Hello All
I love my great state of Alabama but without a question Montgomery is terrible. When I stayed there while going through MEPS we were instructed to never leave the hotel after 5PM without at least 5 people.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:12 am to UKWildcats
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Uhhh, yes, it was. Are you really going to try and lecture/argue a lifelong Lexingtonian who's family goes back in this city 3 generations and who was part of the settling party in Kentucky, who has a few towns and 1 county named for my ancestors.
Theres a pretty food fricking chance I know more about my state's history than some Texan.
Frankfort was selected afterwards once the state became official. Lexington was the first capitol for a bit. After the Civil War they tried to relocate it to either Louisville or Lexington and the compromise was reached to have it in Frankfort because it was between the two cities.
Child please.
I'm a native Kentuckian also. If you don't want to hear the history from me, try reading it on the state's own websites:
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Frankfort became the state capital of Kentucky in 1792 after pledging more manpower toward the construction of a statehouse than any other city.
https://www.kentuckytourism.com/8-historic-sites-in-the-state-capital/
The debate between Lexington. Louisville that you're thinking of occured in the early 1900's when the capital building in downtown Frankfort had become dilapidated and needed replacing. Lexington and Louisville both tried to have it moved to their cities, but ultimately Kentucky left the capital in Frankfort and built the current capital building in 1904.
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Kentucky's Capitol is the fourth permanent building since statehood in 1792. It was built to replace the earlier 1830 capitol, still standing in downtown Frankfort, which had become inadequate to accommodate the growing state government. A long and bitter quarrel among Louisville, Lexington and Frankfort over which city should be Kentucky's Capital finally ended in 1904, when the legislature voted to spend one million dollars for a new capitol to replace the 1830 capitol on the old public square in downtown Frankfort. The architect's design was far too immense for the square, so the present site in south Frankfort was chosen instead.
https://capitol.ky.gov/Pages/default.aspx
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:13 am to Wild Thang
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Also, per legend, the bullet holes from when Long was killed are still noticeable on the first floor hallway.
No legend about it; I touched one on a freaking school field trip. And yes the pencil... it’s there.
Our old one is so beautiful
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:14 am to GetCocky11
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Yep, but wasn't the old State House still in use at the time? The old State House was completely burned down in that fire and a lot of valuable stuff was lost. I read that the old State House was designed by the same guy who designed the White House, James Hoban.
Exactly. Hoban was an Irishman from Charleston who designed the old Statehouse that Sherman's troops claimed they accidentally torched, along with the rest of the city (except USC's Horseshoe) ... and the White House looks a lot like our old Statehouse did based upon some drawings and one picture I have in an old book.
The current Statehouse was under construction when Sherman started the bombardment from across the river up on the hill basically where Al's Upstairs Italian sits now.
It the lower building was pretty much done and partially occupied on both wings but the rotunda was empty and filled with timbers being used to finish construction on the copper dome.
The dents and impact marks where cannon balls hit the building are marked by stars these days ....
LINK: Good Pictures
The Statue of George Washington was vandalized by the yankee scum including breaking off his cane.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:16 am to dawgfan24348
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Atlanta is a pretty nice city as long as you avoid the southwestern part
Atlanta truly is one of the most beautiful cities in the nation. Springtime is Atlanta's crown and glory...it's more beautiful than Paris during that time of year.
Atlanta has more trees than any other urban area in the world...even Seattlites acknowledge that Atlanta's the true "Emerald City".
Our movie and studio crews LOVE going to Atlanta because all that it offers in diverse things to do while shooting there, etc.
Then, just to the north of Atlanta, you have these beautiful, cool mountains to relax to when you want to get out of the city.
With the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico both being 5 hours away, Atlanta has its own "ocean" in its backyard, the mighty Lake Lanier Islands, located in its northern suburbs, with its beaches, resorts, sailing, golfing, etc.
You've got Stone Mountain Park located just 20 miles NE of downtown Atlanta...looks like something that belongs out West rather than in Atlanta...Swiss skylift to the top (or choose to climb it--we do), lakes, museums, restaurants, train, camping...so much to do here.
Ok, the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce tour is over. :)
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:32 am to RollTide1987
quote:It's literally a miniature Empire State Building
Louisiana's state capitol looks like something right out of the Soviet Union. Disgusting building/design.
You can't get more American than that.
I remember reading somewhere that it's "only" as tall as it is, because the architects didn't feel the ground could support any taller safely. If Huey could have put a 100 story tower there, he likely would have.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:42 am to RatRodDawg
They all pale in comparison to Virginia's. There is so much history inside that building and the US Capital in Washington is modeled on it.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:24 am to UKWildcats
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Frankfort was selected afterwards once the state became official. Lexington was the first capitol for a bit. After the Civil War they tried to relocate it to either Louisville or Lexington and the compromise was reached to have it in Frankfort because it was between the two cities.
Correct. Danville was the first Capitol where the first state Constitution was signed.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:50 am to WildcatMike
Texas needs some more pics.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:03 am to borotiger
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The photographer earned his money when making Montgomery look good.
The building itself is pretty but unoriginal.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:07 am to WarDamnMouthbreather
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When I stayed there while going through MEPS we were instructed to never leave the hotel after 5PM without at least 5 people.
No you werent. Montgomery is a boring city but its hardly that dangerous.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:10 am to RatRodDawg
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Too bad the occupants are Constitutionalist treasonists.
Its treason to think differently than me
Posted on 8/5/19 at 12:08 pm to BoozeDawg
I've lived in Missouri my whole life and been to Jeff City once on a school field trip.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 12:12 pm to Che Boludo
Where are the surrounding gardens and lawns? It's the most beautiful capital grounds in the country....
Posted on 8/5/19 at 12:15 pm to i am dan
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i am dan
The beautiful state capitols of the Southeastern Conference
Sorry La, ummmmm... that's a pretty ugly building.
Actually if the OP had shown the building in context of the surrounding State buildings and the gorgeous gardens and grounds surrounding it, it would look completely different...
Posted on 8/5/19 at 12:35 pm to viceman
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'smatter, you poor states can't afford gold domes?
quote:The local dental profession would see a boom though!
they would steal it in Montgomery
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:27 pm to RatRodDawg
Baton Rouge's looks like a jail.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:35 pm to Krampus
quote:Well, for a native Kentuckian, you should be ashamed at your lack of knowledge.
I'm a native Kentuckian also. If you don't want to hear the history from me, try reading it on the state's own websites:
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Lexington was the capitol. Deal with it.
And I stated that the Lou/Lex quarrel was after the Civil War.
So again, child please.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:37 pm to RatRodDawg
I've been to the Capitol in Austin. It's beautiful.
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