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re: How do we hire another coach if we don’t pay Kelly his buyout?
Posted by Scoob on 11/12/25 at 1:57 pm to TigerLunatik
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Why would another coach come jere if we can fire him like this and then not pay the buyout?
Because coaches have enormous egos and the guy you want as your next coach thinks that he will never give a reason to get fired.
There's a gigantic difference between
I understand LSU is a demanding position. Kelly won 10, 10, and 9 games his first three years, and it wasn't good enough. He got fired. I will come in knowing that I have to do better than that, and I will
and
If I take this job, I have to meet expectations, or they will fire me AND REFUSE TO HONOR THE CONTRACT BOTH PARTIES AGREED TO AND SIGNED
Right now, every indication is that it's the latter situation. That's what Kelly's agent is saying, and that gets out to other agents in addition to his own clients. If that doesn't get addressed in a hurry, it will destroy LSU's program.
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re: John Cohen: Auburn will announce the new Head Coach after the Iron Bowl. 24hrs
Posted by Scoob on 11/12/25 at 12:51 pm to cajuntiger1010
quote:I will say this, as a completely biased LSU fan:
Dammit. Auburn fans told me it was a better job than LSU
LSU has more potential, by a good bit. LSU in theory could be every bit as good, or better, than UGA annually. It could be a perennial top 5 program.
But as a job- don't frick with my money.
LSU is fricking with Brian Kelly's money, the money that was agreed to when he took this job. There's really no 2 ways about that. It's to the point that he's filed suit about it. That's bad. If I were looking as a prospective head coach, that right there eliminates a school from any consideration.
quote:You want to spend a draft pick on a guy "to groom", when Shough's a rookie and Rattler's in his second year?
or draft a QB in the mid-rounds to groom behind Shough and Rattler
We're already grooming both of those guys. And fwiw, I think Rattler as a 5th rd pick is paying off. Lots of guys picked in the 5th don't even make the roster, he was able to start a few games for us and is an adequate backup.
quote:I'm not melting about the loss. Hell, I was pleasantly surprised by how LSU played, it was about 20 points closer than I expected.quote:
I'm sure Bama fans can find a bunch of bad calls too.
Weird that you can't name them but I can. Anyway, keep melting
I'm talking about incompetent refs. The SEC office is making millions of dollars too, not just the schools. They need to step their game up.
SEC needs to address the officiating this offseason
Posted by Scoob on 11/10/25 at 6:18 am
No, I'm not going to say they cost LSU the game; LSU loses that regardless. But the refs were a joke. I'm sure Bama fans can find a bunch of bad calls too.
How do you miss the unsportsmanlike conduct, unneccessary roughness call on the LSU WR getting slung down way out of bounds early in the game?
How do you have to review 3 offensive plays in a 5-6 play stretch, in a single offensive series- are the onfield refs just that bad?
How does the back judge overrule the guy staring at the ball straight down the line on the touchback/non-touchback? And you don't have endzone cameras on both sides of the field to show it?
What's the ref even doing counting players in the endzone 10 seconds after the play is over, before calling an illegal formation penalty?
Bama fans may ignore that since they won, but it's pathetic. The SEC is bigtime, we need competency from the officials, not a clown show.
How do you miss the unsportsmanlike conduct, unneccessary roughness call on the LSU WR getting slung down way out of bounds early in the game?
How do you have to review 3 offensive plays in a 5-6 play stretch, in a single offensive series- are the onfield refs just that bad?
How does the back judge overrule the guy staring at the ball straight down the line on the touchback/non-touchback? And you don't have endzone cameras on both sides of the field to show it?
What's the ref even doing counting players in the endzone 10 seconds after the play is over, before calling an illegal formation penalty?
Bama fans may ignore that since they won, but it's pathetic. The SEC is bigtime, we need competency from the officials, not a clown show.
quote:Not close
Was Kelly the worst LSU coach
quote:that changes things significantly :lol:
Of all the hires since Saban left
You have Miles, Orgeron, and Kelly.
I still lean towards "no". Miles was clearly the best HC, kept the machine humming for a decade and when he left, it still wasn't "bad", it was just stale and not "great" anymore.
That leaves Orgeron and Kelly.
Orgeron had 2019. He also had 2020 and 2021.
Kelly didn't have the natty, but he did get LSU back to 9-10 wins after those 2 years; I don't think Orgeron could have. And Orgeron had Aranda, probably the best defensive coordinator in CFB, already in place and established. If Kelly had a defense as good, I think he does win a natty with Daniels in 2023.
Outside of LSU, it's really no contest: Kelly had Cincinnati playing good, then had Notre Dame back in the national spotlight. Orgeron's best tenure was 6-2 at USC as interim, his time at Ole Miss was a disaster.
And while there's indications of Kelly maybe fooling around and not focusing on the job, it wasn't front and center during press conferences and practices like it was with Orgeron. Kelly didn't take the buyout and giggle like a drunk idiot who just won the lottery when he was fired, like Orgeron did.
quote:Yeah, that one was ridiculous. So bad that even the announcers spent some time talking about it.
Zavion got tossed when he was 5 yards OOB and they said “oh well the ref wasn’t looking”
And if nothing else, that play certainly feeds the perception that Bama wasn't going to be held to a strict standard. Meanwhile, Van Buren enters the game and suddenly they have to review any play that has a positive outcome :rolleyes:
Then, there was the counting incident. WTF was that even about?
I'm not going to say 'corruption' necessarily, but at the very least how about gross incompetence?
We don't need to watch a game and have 5+ moments where the referees are completely taking the game over. The fact that they all happened to benefit just 1 team... that's another story.
re: Saints 17 @ Panthers 7 | Final | FOX SAINTS WIN! Next ATL (3-6) @ NO (2-8) 11/23 @ 3:25 PM
Posted by Scoob on 11/9/25 at 2:00 pm to FireGoodell
Never saw that before
re: You can’t be a statue and have awful pocket prescence too. Horrendous sack by nuss here
Posted by Scoob on 11/9/25 at 12:21 pm to Robbytiger
That was one of the worst bonehead sacks I've ever seen
It's the total lack of awareness by Nussmeier that is damning. We've seen that type of rush a lot by LSU... the DE overruns the play and leaves open lanes. Ole Miss killed us with that. Now granted, Nuss isn't nearly as quick as the Ole Miss QB, but he simply could have stopped and had a second to throw. If he steps up and to the left, he has all day, or could run (we know he can't run, but still).
Curne didn't lead his guy into Nuss, unless he knew Nuss would spin and drop to punter's depth.
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Why does curne get a pass? He practically led him straight to Nuss……
It's the total lack of awareness by Nussmeier that is damning. We've seen that type of rush a lot by LSU... the DE overruns the play and leaves open lanes. Ole Miss killed us with that. Now granted, Nuss isn't nearly as quick as the Ole Miss QB, but he simply could have stopped and had a second to throw. If he steps up and to the left, he has all day, or could run (we know he can't run, but still).
Curne didn't lead his guy into Nuss, unless he knew Nuss would spin and drop to punter's depth.
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 9:09 pm to SlidellCajun
3rd review of the drive
Hey LSU is moving, let's review every play
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 9:02 pm to demtigers73
We make one play, and they call to review?
Wtf
Wtf
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 9:01 pm to NorthTxLSU
Please stop calling 0 yd passes
quote:Well no, not when the QB runs around the block into the pass rusher.
Our OL can't block 3 people
He actually fricking had time, and a pretty good pocket over to his right. Our Lineman had pushed the rusher way deep.
But then Nuss jukes and spins right into him.
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 8:47 pm to timlan2057
How the frick did he run into that sack?
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 8:02 pm to Nix to Twillie
I predict:
Handoff to Durham for no gain.
Screen to Thomas
Blocked punt
Handoff to Durham for no gain.
Screen to Thomas
Blocked punt
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 7:13 pm to PurpleDragon
How is that not a penalty???
SIAP; Fantastic Four now streaming on Disney+
Posted by Scoob on 11/8/25 at 11:49 am
So, I watched this the other day. Didn't go see it in the theater, so it was first time for me.
My impressions, it was okay. Fun enough movie to pass some time, but not really anything great.
I get the complaints about the Silver Surfer being female, but they also used that to add wrinkles into the storyline. That was basically Johnny's only character-building, the fact that he found her attractive and interesting (his research into her language etc). I guess that pays off in the end, dealing with Galactus.
I liked what they did with Ben.
My impressions, it was okay. Fun enough movie to pass some time, but not really anything great.
I get the complaints about the Silver Surfer being female, but they also used that to add wrinkles into the storyline. That was basically Johnny's only character-building, the fact that he found her attractive and interesting (his research into her language etc). I guess that pays off in the end, dealing with Galactus.
I liked what they did with Ben.
re: One observation on Kiffin
Posted by Scoob on 11/6/25 at 9:32 pm to Sheriff Brackett
quote:I don't know if he comes, but I think he's still in play.
People can dismiss it all they want, but he is going to give this job serious consideration.
There was a reason he got hired by the Raiders, Tennessee and USC; dude's a brilliant football mind.
There's also a reason he left each place in disgrace, he's been a huge frickhead.
He's very comfortable at Ole Miss right now, and it really seems like he's got his shite together finally. If he has, he may well be the best coach in the game. Do not ignore the fact that he has Ole Miss punching above their weight class every year... they aren't Big 6. They're basically South Carolina otherwise.
Lane might be safe at Ole Miss, but he knows what LSU can be, and he knows Orgeron (a guy he knows well) was able to do it once here. Lane might think "if O can get there, I could get there and stay there". And that little nugget might eat at him. He'd have to sell it to his kids, but I think they know who their dad is.
quote:No, we deserve the ridicule from them.
Weird how many bama fans seem to care so much
Right after Kelly was fired, we started to see dozens of "get SABAN" threads pop up daily on the Rant, and most of them were saying "watch how Bama fans will melt when he comes back". It wasn't just a suggestion on getting a coach, it was that we'd make the Gumps cry.
After a week or so of talking shite about it, reality has finally kicked in for those dumbasses- we're not going to hire a 74 yr old retiree, put him in a time machine back to his early 60's, and restore "the Saban empire" at LSU. It was a childish and stupid thing to yap about as much as our base did, and it's provoked a fairly justified response.
What sucks to me, I think we started out with a pretty decent shot at grabbing Kiffin from Ole Miss. But between the crap with the Governor and the AD, and the delusions of grandeur from the fans, I think he's leery of stepping into this mess.
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