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Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:07 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:07 pm to MizzouTrue
quote:Was he the HC when the 5th down happened?
Who was hiring Widenhofer after 2000?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:30 pm to GetPiggywithIt
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Butch Jones-his record was somehow better than his coaching, still a clown
That’s because Tennessee had playoff level talent in 2015 and 2016. The fact that he lost 8 games over that 2-year stretch, with all that talent, shows how bad of a head coach he truly was. Oh and don’t forget that he had Alvin Kamara playing second fiddle to Jalen Hurd. Add that to his arrogance and I’d take Dooley or Pruitt over him any time.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:36 pm to GetPiggywithIt
Napier is absolutely worse than Dubose and Shula
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:00 pm to GetPiggywithIt
Joe Moorhead - MSU has to be on this list. Followed up Dan Mullen only to get fired 2 years later.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:02 pm to JeffLebowski
1. Chad Morris
2. Bert
3. Pittman
4. Jack Crowe
5. Danny Ford
2. Bert
3. Pittman
4. Jack Crowe
5. Danny Ford
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:23 pm to VFL67
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Wherr is jerome Pruitt?
Please translate from hillbilly to engrish.
Maybe at McDonalds?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:30 pm to ukraine_rebel
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Followed up Dan Mullen
Mullen was a great coach during “recruiting season.”
He didn’t realize that Kirby didn’t need a hunting license.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:20 am to boston vol
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:39 am to GetPiggywithIt
Chad Morris is the worst. 4-20 overall and 0-16 in SEC play.
Ed Orgeron at Ole Miss was bad. 10-25 overall, 3-21 in SEC play.
Joker Phillips was terrible, even for Kentucky's standards.
Will Muschamp took over Florida from Urban Meyer and South Carolina from Spurrier and both times, he ran them into the dirt and was fired in a few years. He was a really good DC but terrible HC.
Hugh Freeze was hot garbage at Auburn, especially considering the talent he brought in. In 3 years, he beat 1 SEC team with a winning record, Texas A&M in 2024.
Derek Dooley and Jeremy Pruitt were really bad at Tennessee.
Derek Mason was terrible at Vanderbilt.
Ed Orgeron at Ole Miss was bad. 10-25 overall, 3-21 in SEC play.
Joker Phillips was terrible, even for Kentucky's standards.
Will Muschamp took over Florida from Urban Meyer and South Carolina from Spurrier and both times, he ran them into the dirt and was fired in a few years. He was a really good DC but terrible HC.
Hugh Freeze was hot garbage at Auburn, especially considering the talent he brought in. In 3 years, he beat 1 SEC team with a winning record, Texas A&M in 2024.
Derek Dooley and Jeremy Pruitt were really bad at Tennessee.
Derek Mason was terrible at Vanderbilt.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:02 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:53 am to TrueLefty
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That is when he gave up trying to coach Auburn football team.
You left out the part where the AD went rogue and made the hire without the $ men’s approval based off one conversation in a hot tub a decade earlier. You left out that before it was the norm, 2/3 of the team transferred because he didn’t understand black folks (their words not mine,) and he only wanted to recruit Boise State level players and coach them up. You left out the part that he brought pretty much his entire Boise coaching staff. And that he fired a very respected up and coming coach just a couple weeks into the season. You left out the part he didn’t allow former players to be around the team… I could go on and on, but you also left out how almost none of the high school coaches in the state had even met him the day he was fired.
It was a lot more than the $ men not giving him money. They didn’t want to waste top dollar on 2* and 3* kids for a coach they didn’t want or trust.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:02 am to GetPiggywithIt
Some of these names on this list aren't even that terrible. As a Florida fan, Napier has gotta be on the list. He ran that same bullshite offense the whole time. Somehow it confused the offense, and was predictable to the defense and everyone sitting on a couch watching the game. Every offseason reporters would assume he is going to change something on offense and ask him what he's going to do differently. His convoluted answer could always be summarized as: Nothing. They'd ask him who the new offensive coordinator would be and he would string it along and the answer would always be: William Napier. For some reason people assume anyone that talks slowly is a good guy. He wasn't a good guy, he was an egomaniac. I really believe Dabo firing him at Clemson just broke his brain.
Muschamp was questionable as well. The one good year he had was smoke and mirrors to anyone with eyes. They beat Louisiana Lafayette with a punt block with two seconds on the game clock. He insisted on recruiting Derrick Henry out of Yulee as a linebacker. He only recruited two OL for two consecutive classes and then freaked out and picked up like six the next class including two stars. How do you forget to recruit OL? He had some of the best defenses I've ever seen, but head coaches need to concern themselves with offense and special teams as well.
All the other failed Florida head coaches don't really make the list. They were flawed, but not the worst.
Muschamp was questionable as well. The one good year he had was smoke and mirrors to anyone with eyes. They beat Louisiana Lafayette with a punt block with two seconds on the game clock. He insisted on recruiting Derrick Henry out of Yulee as a linebacker. He only recruited two OL for two consecutive classes and then freaked out and picked up like six the next class including two stars. How do you forget to recruit OL? He had some of the best defenses I've ever seen, but head coaches need to concern themselves with offense and special teams as well.
All the other failed Florida head coaches don't really make the list. They were flawed, but not the worst.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:32 am to auburn2eugene
I agree that Harsin could've been better but his first year, he had us ranked #11 in the country after 8 games. We were 6-2 with back to back wins over #21 Arkansas and #8 Ole Miss, both by double digits. When Bo Nix broke his ankle, we were leading Mississippi State 28-3 in the 2nd quarter and Bo had 377 yards passing. That would've also been a win. Once Bo broke his ankle, we were outscored 40-7 and lost. We then lost at USCe by 3 points, we lost in 4 OT's to #1 Alabama by 2 points and we lost the bowl game by 4 points to #20 Houston. With a healthy Bo Nix, we likely win all those games. Instead, we played a 1 legged TJ Finley and lost every remaining game by 4 points or less.
Then the offseason hit and our PTB make up a bullshite story that Harsin was banging Clesti Crochet so that it would HOPEFULLY be a Title IX issue and he could be fired for cause. They got the idea from the Bobby Petrino scandal at Arkansas. And guess what?? IT BACKFIRED!!!!! Like every other damn thing our money men try that's shady as frick. Jetgate BACKFIRED too!!!
You also claim that Allen Greene is the only one who got Harsin hired and that's such BS. Do you not realize the freaking board has to sign off on coaching hires?? And this BS about him only signing 2 stars and 3 stars is silly as well and 90% of our fanbase says that crap. Look at Harsin's signing classes. He stepped off the plane in Auburn on December 24th, 2020. Thats 3 weeks later than the other new coaching hires. He had to quickly put together a class and it was #17 nationally. The ONLY class that he had a full year to recruit wound up #21 nationally. Those rankings are from 247. The class in which he was fired and Hugh was hired wound up #19 nationally. All this junk I've seen our fans say about "Harsin's classes ranked 60th or 70th" is simply bullshite. Tuberville had multiple classes ranked in the 20's during his tenure here but not shite gets mentioned there.
When we hired him and he didn't take shite off anyone, you all claimed "he's Pat Dye 2.0. He's not soft like Gus." Now you all take that same stuff and spin it around and say he was an a-hole. So is he Pat Dye 2.0 or an a-hole? Our fans also claim he never left his damn office and refused to recruit AT ALL. First off, he was hired Christmas Eve 2020, kinda hard to visit high school coaches in person when ITS FRICKING COVID!!!!! Second off, he was one of the very first coaches in the country, and THE first coach at Auburn, to put together a recruiting staff who our assistant coaches would go to and say "I need this many QB's or this many RB's and here is what measurables I'm looking for." Then that staff would immediately get to work and find players fitting that mold and return the info. to our coaches. THEN our coaches would contact the players after watching their film, etc. Now almost every school does that. Funny how when Harsin immediately did that, our fans said he was "thinking ahead of the curve" but then he gets canned and suddenly "he never left his desk to recruit."
You're right, certain black players said he was an a-hole or seemed too quiet. Well, he has never left Boise State except for 1 year as Mack Brown's OC at Texas and 1 year as Arkansas State HC. Send any southern person to Boise and it will likely be the same. There were also more players speak out for Harsin and said he wasn't soft and wouldn't allow players walk over him but that never gets mentioned. Players like Smoke Monday said "Harsin has been here almost 1 year and never called or spoke to my Mother." And??? He's a fricking coach who never recruited Smoke Monday. They whined because"he made us use the stairs instead of the elevators." He sure did and all of our fans LOVED it too and said "Its a culture change. Gus and Chizik were too soft. Harsin is Pat Dye 2.0" I even remember on another forum where AU fans said "I know another a-hole just up the state in Tuscaloosa. That attitude works for him"
Our fans are doing this EXACT same shite with Golesh now. "He's not soft and full of excuses like Hugh. He doesn't take any shite from media and that's what we need. He's just like Pat Dye." You wait, if Golesh shits the bed like Auburn coaches so often do, our fans will spin it around with Golesh just like they did Harsin. You're been on other social media sites and you always talk shite about Harsin and that's fine but you're also going to get it right back. It's just how Auburn is and how Auburn will always be. Blame him for being too mean or blame his recruiting or lack of SEC experience but it's funny how Auburn went the EXACT opposite when they hired Freeze and guess what?? Hugh had an even worse record. It's just Auburn!!!
The problem is AUBURN and the problem has ALWAYS BEEN AUBURN!!!!!! Put Nick Saban's arse at Auburn and the problems would still exist. It's always been this way and will likely NEVER change!!!! Atleast not in my lifetime. We are the craziest fricking rollercoaster ride any mf'er could ever dream up!!!!
Then the offseason hit and our PTB make up a bullshite story that Harsin was banging Clesti Crochet so that it would HOPEFULLY be a Title IX issue and he could be fired for cause. They got the idea from the Bobby Petrino scandal at Arkansas. And guess what?? IT BACKFIRED!!!!! Like every other damn thing our money men try that's shady as frick. Jetgate BACKFIRED too!!!
You also claim that Allen Greene is the only one who got Harsin hired and that's such BS. Do you not realize the freaking board has to sign off on coaching hires?? And this BS about him only signing 2 stars and 3 stars is silly as well and 90% of our fanbase says that crap. Look at Harsin's signing classes. He stepped off the plane in Auburn on December 24th, 2020. Thats 3 weeks later than the other new coaching hires. He had to quickly put together a class and it was #17 nationally. The ONLY class that he had a full year to recruit wound up #21 nationally. Those rankings are from 247. The class in which he was fired and Hugh was hired wound up #19 nationally. All this junk I've seen our fans say about "Harsin's classes ranked 60th or 70th" is simply bullshite. Tuberville had multiple classes ranked in the 20's during his tenure here but not shite gets mentioned there.
When we hired him and he didn't take shite off anyone, you all claimed "he's Pat Dye 2.0. He's not soft like Gus." Now you all take that same stuff and spin it around and say he was an a-hole. So is he Pat Dye 2.0 or an a-hole? Our fans also claim he never left his damn office and refused to recruit AT ALL. First off, he was hired Christmas Eve 2020, kinda hard to visit high school coaches in person when ITS FRICKING COVID!!!!! Second off, he was one of the very first coaches in the country, and THE first coach at Auburn, to put together a recruiting staff who our assistant coaches would go to and say "I need this many QB's or this many RB's and here is what measurables I'm looking for." Then that staff would immediately get to work and find players fitting that mold and return the info. to our coaches. THEN our coaches would contact the players after watching their film, etc. Now almost every school does that. Funny how when Harsin immediately did that, our fans said he was "thinking ahead of the curve" but then he gets canned and suddenly "he never left his desk to recruit."
You're right, certain black players said he was an a-hole or seemed too quiet. Well, he has never left Boise State except for 1 year as Mack Brown's OC at Texas and 1 year as Arkansas State HC. Send any southern person to Boise and it will likely be the same. There were also more players speak out for Harsin and said he wasn't soft and wouldn't allow players walk over him but that never gets mentioned. Players like Smoke Monday said "Harsin has been here almost 1 year and never called or spoke to my Mother." And??? He's a fricking coach who never recruited Smoke Monday. They whined because"he made us use the stairs instead of the elevators." He sure did and all of our fans LOVED it too and said "Its a culture change. Gus and Chizik were too soft. Harsin is Pat Dye 2.0" I even remember on another forum where AU fans said "I know another a-hole just up the state in Tuscaloosa. That attitude works for him"
Our fans are doing this EXACT same shite with Golesh now. "He's not soft and full of excuses like Hugh. He doesn't take any shite from media and that's what we need. He's just like Pat Dye." You wait, if Golesh shits the bed like Auburn coaches so often do, our fans will spin it around with Golesh just like they did Harsin. You're been on other social media sites and you always talk shite about Harsin and that's fine but you're also going to get it right back. It's just how Auburn is and how Auburn will always be. Blame him for being too mean or blame his recruiting or lack of SEC experience but it's funny how Auburn went the EXACT opposite when they hired Freeze and guess what?? Hugh had an even worse record. It's just Auburn!!!
The problem is AUBURN and the problem has ALWAYS BEEN AUBURN!!!!!! Put Nick Saban's arse at Auburn and the problems would still exist. It's always been this way and will likely NEVER change!!!! Atleast not in my lifetime. We are the craziest fricking rollercoaster ride any mf'er could ever dream up!!!!
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:03 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:52 am to Quicksilver
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Ed Orgeron's Ole Miss stint should be on the list.
Ed showed what he could do at a superior program so you kind of have to consider the possibility that Ole Miss was dragging him down.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:49 am to shinerfan
My hunch is that somewhere between 2006 and 2019 he figured out that doing Oklahoma drills during a rain delay wasn’t the best idea. Clearly the guy at LSU was not the same coach he was at Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:38 am to GetPiggywithIt
What about Curly Hallman, the gift we gave to LSU?
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:43 am to MosesRAB93
Sorry, just noticed the since 2000 part. I nominate Dennis Franchione then.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:05 am to captdalton
Hey now, I remember a Shula-led Bama squad spanking an Urban Meyer-led Florida squad in 2005.
Or maybe that was just Croyle and Prothro...
Or maybe that was just Croyle and Prothro...
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