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re: Whittingham to Michigan

Posted by auburn2eugene on 12/27/25 at 12:25 am to
Did people miss he “retired” from Utah in the middle of December like two days after Moore had his mental breakdown?
People seem to forget 2004 Auburn. First and only team in sec history not given the chance to play for the championship.

That season put the whole thing in motion. Bama LSU rematch was the final nail in the coffin.

And as far as why the g5 is in it? 2007 Fiesta Bowl. Ask Oklahoma fans. I’m sure they remember. That game gave the “little guy” a voice
You had earned a thumbs up until the end. Than that earned you a Jake Barr GFC
Could of would of should of

Nice imagination you got there skippy. Fact is nothing played out like that. So your little dribble is meaningless
I have no dog in this fight like you jang. Yeah Indiana is a good team, I doubt anyone in the country would claim otherwise.

But I’ll just leave it like this… Auburn would finish no less than 4th in THIS B1G THIS season and we couldn’t muster enough wins to make a bowl.

So Indiana has played the Ducks once and tOSU once. ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNND they are claiming a win AT Iowa as a premier win?!? Like are you serious?

The strength of schedule evens out the records. One of them has been there before. One hasn’t. One hasn’t played in a month and the other hasn’t played in less than 2 weeks.

As much as I’d like to say Indiana beat Bama, i say things realistically rather than emotionally.

And I don’t think Indiana comes within 10 points of Bama.
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at a program with fewer resources.


I don’t think anyone would suggest OM has anywhere near the resources as LSU. However Lane has had all the resources he has needed to get whoever he has wanted. He finished his Ole Miss career with a .743 win percentage, 0 SEC Championship appearances, 0 Heismans. Meanwhile the ma he is replacing had a .708 win percentage, 1 SEC Championship appearances, 1 Heisman winner.

Lane could become the next Saban and go on a dominant run at LSU… however given his historical W/L record (or even his W/L record at Ole Miss) it’s just as likely he will be fired within 3 years. Especially after something like an embarrassing loss where you go 2/14 on 4th down and give up a 21+ lead to someone like us, Arkansas, or Kentucky…

I want Lane to succeed at LSU. LSU is my2nd favorite SEC program. It just isn’t a sure thing like most of you seem to think it is…
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But high three stars and solid three stars that are coached up can be equally as good.


Is there a glitch in the matrix or something? Didn’t we just try and go that route and fired the coach less than 2 years after signing him?

If we want to be Mississippi State, Arkansas, USCe, or Vandy then sure load up those 3 stars. If you want to win in the SEC you cannot rely on hitting on 3 star stars.

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I do disagree that a 5* suggests a 1st round draft slot, to me it's more a guarantee that they will be drafted.


247 says something very different

LINK

Director of Scouting Andrew Ivins provides transparent insight into the rankings process, what the rankings mean, and what 247Sports is doing that no one else in the industry is.

IVINS: "We mirror our Top247 after the NFL Draft. There are 32 first-round picks every year, which is why we have 32 five-stars. So, if we award a prospect a fifth star, we believe that they have one of the best chances out of anyone in the cycle to eventually blossom into a Day 1 pick.

And I’m old enough to remember the last 1,000 yard WR signing with us after a stint as a professional baseball player. But we have only had 2 WRs go over 1000 yards ever. We have had a few come close like KLS last year and Adams in 2009 and 2010 but we just can’t seem to get them over that hump. I truly hope CAG will change that.

And you are right. Those 3 did nothing at Auburn but all 3 ended up playing in the league. So it’s hard to site them as complete busts…

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It feels like mostly busts


How one defines a “bust” must also be taken into consideration. A 5* rating suggests they will be drafted in the 1st round. If that’s the case most are misses. Yet you have multiple ones drafted after the first round as hits. So does that mean being drafted makes them a hit? If so there need to be 3 additional hits on the list (Cowart, Roc, Westerman)

Then you have people like Duke. Duke was VERY MUCH a playmaker from his first snap to his last in an Auburn uniform. He then followed that up with a very dominant CFL career.
She is apparently pregnant when he broke into her house.

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He got her pregnant, forced her to have an abortion, and paid her to STFU.


If true, did he get her pregnant again?
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It's Kirby's defense.


To be fair it isn’t about that. It was Kirby’s defense when Lanning was DC. But when Lanning was DC they fielded elite talent but looked elite. Like I said before Schumanns defense is littered with elite talent but fielding a so-so defense
Because his defense hasn’t been very good this year. This is by far the worst “looking” defense they have fielded under Kirby since they started their run. It may not be the worst statistically (I don’t know if they are or not) but the point is that the defense isn’t elite but is fielding elite talent. He doesn’t seem to get the most out of the talent he has.

Thats why he wasn’t seriously considered for the Auburn job at least.
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guessing he also forked out for Dybansta.


Don’t think so. I mean maybe but I saw a tweet from him that said something along the lines of “some people just aren’t replaceable. It’s time for me to stop sitting on the sidelines and get to work”

re: Hartline to South Florida…

Posted by auburn2eugene on 12/3/25 at 4:08 pm to
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Great hire. Really wish Auburn took a shot here.


Me too. He was at the top of the list for me. I’m thrilled with our hire nonetheless. But it’s an absolute home run hire for him as I’d seen his name floated for PSU.

As to what someone else asked about how many USF players we want anyway, they have a couple really good WRs and Byrum Brown. He is on record saying he hadn’t transferred to a bigger school because of CAG. And anytime you can get a QB who passed for 3000 and runshed for 1000 (and who almost accomplished this feat twice) you take them. Especially in the exact same system.
I love the hire. Absolutely love his offensive knowledge. Tennessee wasn’t the same when he left until this year.

The turn around he has pulled off at USF is nothing short of miraculous. And a 3000 yard passer and 1000 yard rusher? Yes please. With stats anywhere close to that out of our QB and we are looking at a 4th Heisman and 3rd real championship.
His South Florida team won 8 games in 4 years before his hiring. The year before he was hired they finished 1-11. He had them in a bowl year 1. They have been bowl eligible all 3 seasons he was their HC. He has produced 23 wins over the last 3 years when again they had won 8 total in 4 years prior to his arrival.

Oh and his QB… one of a handful of qbs ever who have had a 3000 yard passing season with 1000 rushing yards.

We hired a no nonsense communist born Russian. We about to roll
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Why do you consider Sumrall to be the apathy choice


I clearly worded my post poorly. I simply meant that I reached the point of apathy years ago. Be it between having to work every Saturday to us just being terrible, I just couldn’t invest as much of my fall life around Auburn football as much as I’d like to.

CJS may be the next best thing since sliced bread. He could be our next Pat Dye or our version of Urban Meyer. But he could just as easily be our Napier, Butch Jones, Tom Herman, or Bryan Harsin2.0. There aren’t really any sure fire candidates. I’ll get behind whoever we hire until he gives me a reason not to support him.

Just for once in my life I’d like to see us make a truly splash hire in football like Bruce Pearl was in basketball.
There is probably less than a 5% chance it happens anyway. But it wouldn’t surprise me seeing him coaching somewhere else sooner than later.

Knowing our history, we likely end up with Sunbelt Sumrall being led by Neil Brown. Why swing for the fences when we can pick… well… Troy…

That point of apathy? Yeah been there for years at this point. After the cupcake games are over have been nothing but disappointment for half a decade.

There are young football fans that have never seen us make a bowl. Much less have seen us at our highest. The damn sec shorts “auburn fan experience” video is real.
Ive heard whispers from some of my family on the left coast that USCs Riley is being talked about as a very real possibility to leave LA for Auburn. Apparently he feels he isn’t getting the resources promised by the administration when he was hired.

But that’s no more likely than anything else. I’m in no way suggesting I have any sources. Just rumblings from someone who works at The Coliseum

He would immediately jump to the top of my list…