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re: Texas has enrolled and rostered a former NFL player, LSU has not
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:09 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:09 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Hutson had to sign paperwork to participate in NFL rookie minicamps. If those agreements created obligations between him and an NFL team, then they were contracts. The SEC rule doesn’t say “NFL player contract” or “employment contract.” It simply says a player who signed a contract with an NFL team is ineligible. So before everyone claims Hutson never signed a contract, Texas should disclose exactly what he signed with the Browns and Cowboys.
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:16 am to wadewilson
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Actually, he did have to sign some kind of agreement to go to an NFL camp, which would have been a professional contract.
Not really. You have UDFA's who do sign a contract then attend a minicamp from the team that signed them as UDFA. Then you have players who are not signed as UDFA, and can ask to attend a minicamp and get an invite, but without a contract. They attend the camp with hopes of being signed to a contract during or following minicamp. If they are not signed, they can then go to another team's minicamp in hopes of landing a contract with them.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:19 am to TeeteringBrink
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Readily admitted I’m no expert on Louisiana’s Napoleanic Code, but have some fairly impressive legal credentials and experience.
At least, enough to know that when Harris and Wright formally signed contracts with NFL teams, it triggered the prohibitions (both NCAA and SEC) against them coming back to play in college.
If you had any sort of legal expertise, and were looking through an objective lense, you’d understand that where the SEC has drawn the line is exactly why they are going to lose these judgements, and the appeals
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:19 am to DaBike
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Once Cole Hutson declared for the NFL and began attending rookie minicamps, he was no longer participating as a college athlete.
Not important to me here; however, why would he have to declare if he had exhausted his eligibility at that point? Declaring to enter a professional draft is historically done by underclassmen.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:20 am to Chingon Ag
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Not important to me here; however, why would he have to declare if he had exhausted his eligibility at that point? Declaring to enter a professional draft is historically done by underclassmen.
Exactly the point Harris, Wright and the 300+ athletes are suing over.
They had no choice but to leave. Then the NCAA changed the rules opening the door for a 5th year of eligibility for them.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:23 am to TeeteringBrink
Do some research and you will learn that mini camp players get paid beyond just expenses. It's part of the NFLPA guidelines.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:25 am to GatorOnAnIsland
I love that graphic.
It points out that Hutson was undrafted, but was not good enough to sign a contract like Wright was offered.
Wright was also undrafted, yet that detail was conveniently left off of his description. The only difference between the two is that one did better in their camp than the other and was made an offer to continue, not a roster spot.
The gaslighting by so many is insane.
It points out that Hutson was undrafted, but was not good enough to sign a contract like Wright was offered.
Wright was also undrafted, yet that detail was conveniently left off of his description. The only difference between the two is that one did better in their camp than the other and was made an offer to continue, not a roster spot.
The gaslighting by so many is insane.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 8:27 am
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:28 am to SUB
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I love that graphic.
It points out that Hutson was undrafted, but was not good enough to sign a contract.
Wright was undrafted, yet that detail was conveniently left off of his description. The only difference between the two is that one did better in their camp than the other and was made an offer to continue, not a roster spot.
The gaslighting by so many is insane.
It’s amusing because “signing a contract” as the line in the sand opens such a massive loophole that will be exploited in the future.
Go undrafted, go to minicamp, refuse to sign a contract unless it meets the number you want, get cut, go back to college.
That door is now wide open. So yeah, let’s do that instead of saying “if you’ve participated in a professional event, in any capacity, you’re not allowed to return to college”.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 8:34 am
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:36 am to TheArrogantCorndog
When they gave Chambliss the 5 year deal, every player who could have gotten the 5 year deal who did not know and went to the draft is going to have an issue they can sue over. SEC and NCAA apparently thought that was not going to happen and did nothing to plan for it. Now it is coming to their doorstep and they are making random rules that will not hold up state to state. That is why the Texas court ruled the way it did and the Louisiana court ruled the way they did. For some reason the SC court did not but that will be overturned.
The MS Court told them what was coming and they ignored it.
The MS Court told them what was coming and they ignored it.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:38 am to RB10
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Harris’ contract was not guaranteed and he received no signing bonus.
If per diem doesn’t count, he’s made $0 dollars as a pro and was injured so he participated is exactly 0 professional practices or camps.
Explain how that’s any different from the Texas player again?
He signed a contract.
Don't get me wrong. I believe once a player declares for the NFL Draft, they should be excluded from playing college football at all....whether it is Harris, Hutson, or any of the other players caught up in this mess.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:39 am to DawgsLife
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He signed a contract.
Don't get me wrong. I believe once a player declares for the NFL Draft, they should be excluded from playing college football at all....whether it is Harris, Hutson, or any of the other players caught up in this mess.
I agree 100%. The line being signing a contract opens up a huge loophole that’s going to get exploited though.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:39 am to TheArrogantCorndog
LSU fans. Contracts are kind of important in Western society. Jobs, student loans, etc. Outside of Louisiana people don't just spit in their hands and shake on it.
But seriously, I think it's ridiculous that Cole Hudson is back at Texas. College football is a farce these days. But those are the rules your beloved SEC came up with.
But seriously, I think it's ridiculous that Cole Hudson is back at Texas. College football is a farce these days. But those are the rules your beloved SEC came up with.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:41 am to Capn_Bevo
lol
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:43 am to wadewilson
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Actually, he did have to sign some kind of agreement to go to an NFL camp, which would have been a professional contract.
Minicamp ? Camp
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:48 am to TheArrogantCorndog
Junior Tuihalamaka never signed an NFL contract (he was hurt during his Pro Day).
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:52 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Wright and Harris didn't know they'd be getting another year of eligibility when they signed. Anyone would've done the same thing. I'd feel differently if they knew they had or were getting eligibility.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:58 am to kajunman
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Do some research and you will learn that mini camp players get paid beyond just expenses. It's part of the NFLPA guidelines.
Very brief research tells me that compensation above expenses is required only for returning veterans, drafted players, and other players already under contract. NOT un-signed players just trying out. I guess teams could voluntarily pay, even though not required to. Has your research found any evidence that Hutson either signed a contract or got paid compensation. Both of those admittedly apply to DQ Wright. Apples and bananas.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:58 am to DawgsLife
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Don't get me wrong. I believe once a player declares for the NFL Draft, they should be excluded from playing college football at all....whether it is Harris, Hutson, or any of the other players caught up in this mess.
I agree. However, these guys were out of eligibility and had to "declare" if they wanted to keep playing football. Then the 5/5 rule came after they were pursuing that and they were cut.
It's really a one year thing, especially if the NCAA and conferences can clean up the language around what constitutes playing professionally, which should include minicamps, etc.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:04 am to TeeteringBrink
Rookie mini camp is a short, three-day event held after the NFL draft, typically for about 40–60 players (draft picks, undrafted free agents, and non-roster tryouts)
ESPN
ESPN
. While it’s not mandatory for all players, those who attend are paid under the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).
ESPN
ESPN
. While it’s not mandatory for all players, those who attend are paid under the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:14 am to TeeteringBrink
Thomas Mars was discussing this.
In Louisiana the appellate court can review the facts of the case and make a completely new ruling.
In Louisiana the appellate court can review the facts of the case and make a completely new ruling.
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