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re: Texas has enrolled and rostered a former NFL player, LSU has not

Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:27 am to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:27 am to
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Explain how that’s any different from the Texas player again?


You answered your own question.

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Harris’ contract


Harris signed a contract with a NFL team. Harris when through NFL fall camp. Harris was on a NFL roster. Harris dressed out and was on the sidelines for a NFL preseason game.

If Harris so desperately wanted to come back to college why didn’t he start the process in June? Why did he wait until he had been cut from an NFL roster in late August?

Pyborg showed this is not about the desire to play in college. He was coming back to college until another NFL team picked him up on waivers. And suddenly Pyborg changed his mind.

The fact that all three of these players - Wright, Harris, and Pyborg - could have been picked up on waivers by another NFL team is proof they are NFL players.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:28 am to
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Explain how that’s any different from the Texas player again?

Simple, Harris signed a professional contract, Texas player didn't.
Where does it say anything about pay or compensation below? About professional practices or camps? Answer- It doesn't. It says "Signed a contract with an NFL or other professional league, NBA or G-League, or WNBA or affiliated team."

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SEC presidents, chancellors and athletic directors met Tuesday and announced that schools are not permitted to have athletes who have:

-Previously declared for the NFL, NBA or WNBA draft, and did not “appropriately withdraw” from those drafts.
-Signed a contract with an NFL or other professional league, NBA or G-League, or WNBA or affiliated team.
-Been listed on a roster by any of those professional teams.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 7:31 am
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:33 am to
why'd you leave out the part about signing a contract?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52837 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:36 am to
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why'd you leave out the part about signing a contract?


I didn’t. Can you read?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112770 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:41 am to
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He interviewed for the job and didn't get it.
Isnt that exactly what happens to the cut nfl players who play preseason?
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
3046 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:42 am to
The fact is that no matter where you draw the line, someone is going to be on the wrong side of it. So, either we can let the schools draw the line, or, we can have different judges in different jurisdictions drawing the line wherever they see fit, which will effectively result in no line whatsoever.

I'm fine with Hutson not playing. I'd be fine with A&M's G league basketball not playing. I'd be fine with Chambliss not playing. But, someone has to draw that line, and that someone should be the voluntary association that all the schools belong to.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112770 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:42 am to
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Harris was on a NFL roster.
Never once in the history of ever was someone “on an nfl roster” who didn’t make the 53 man roster or even the practice squad

It’s crazy to even pretend like what people are saying isn’t disingenuous
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 7:44 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52837 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:42 am to
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Harris signed a contract with a NFL team. Harris when through NFL fall camp. Harris was on a NFL roster. Harris dressed out and was on the sidelines for a NFL preseason game.


Harris has been injured. He didn’t take a single snap in any NFL camps before getting cut and receiving $0.
Posted by Warwick
Member since May 2022
2290 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:44 am to
yall voted them in this conference. deal with it
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22507 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:44 am to
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Nice graphic, but it doesn’t compare any payments they received. I’m pretty sure that Dae’quan got something like a $25,000 signing bonus; I think Xavian did too. Both of them signed pretty hefty contracts that would have paid six figures for staying on the roster into the season. Was Hutson paid anything over and above expense reimbursement for tryouts at a mini camp? Sounds doubtful but I don’t really know. Would be an important fact.


Bediako made 500k playing in the G league for 3 years and a Tuscaloosa judge gave him a TRO. What’s the penalty for Bama?
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:44 am to
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2613 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:47 am to
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He interviewed for the job and didn't get it. Talk all you want, but nothing is going to happen to Texas. Obvious that you don't get it.
Do construction workers and doctors normally show up to job interviews already wearing a hard hat or a lab coat?

He had to have signed some kind of agreement/waiver (contract) that allowed him to walk into an NFL facility, get fitted for pads, and take the field with a Dallas Cowboys helmet on.

If that was his “interview”, then wright and Harris also “interviewed” and didn’t get the job.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4447 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:57 am to
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Isnt that exactly what happens to the cut nfl players who play preseason?

Yup, it sure is, imo.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52837 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:00 am to
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I'm fine with Hutson not playing. I'd be fine with A&M's G league basketball not playing. I'd be fine with Chambliss not playing. But, someone has to draw that line, and that someone should be the voluntary association that all the schools belong to.


Maybe now you’re figuring it out.

The SEC saying “those former pros are fine, but THESE are not” isn’t going to hold up in court.
Posted by Dirty 6th
Member since Sep 2023
633 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:01 am to
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Once Cole Hutson declared for the NFL and began attending rookie minicamps, he was no longer participating as a college athlete. Although he had not yet signed a full NFL player contract, he was participating under formal tryout agreements, waivers, and other contractual documents required by NFL teams. These agreements established a professional relationship between Hutson and the teams evaluating him, setting the terms and conditions of his participation while protecting both parties. Rookie minicamps are professional job auditions, and players attend with the goal of earning an NFL roster spot. Hutson had left the college game and entered the professional football ranks, working to secure a full NFL contract.



There is a clear line — the signing of a contract. Those are a lot of words to say to you simply disagree with where it has been drawn. Nevertheless the line is clear as day. Like it or not, LSU is on the wrong side of it and Texas is not. This isn’t hard if your thinking isn’t hijacked by your emotions. Now we let this play out. I’m betting LSU prevails and then we’ll see what consequences if any the SEC is able to levy.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24761 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:04 am to
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Never in the history of football has a guy been allowed go to NFL tryouts or be at NFL mini camps and then be allowed to come back to college...

Rules for thee but not for me
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4447 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:05 am to
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If that was his “interview”, then wright and Harris also “interviewed” and didn’t get the job.

Yes, I agree.

You guys just don't get it. If the SEC had cared about compensation, practices, per diems, mini camps, injuries, etc. They would have addressed it. It's clear to me that they don't care about those items or they would have included language in their declaration statement. What they did mention, and seems that they care about is THE SIGNING OF A CONTRACT! Even then they didn't address if the guy makes the team or not, nothing, just did he sign or not.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24761 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:06 am to
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There is a clear line — the signing of a contract. Those are a lot of words to say to you simply disagree with where it has been drawn. Nevertheless the line is clear as day. Like it or not, LSU is on the wrong side of it and Texas is not. This isn’t hard if your thinking isn’t hijacked by your emotions. Now we let this play out. I’m betting LSU prevails and then we’ll see what consequences if any the SEC is able to levy.




That line is not clear at all. You made that line up. He was actively pursuing a career in the NFL and receiving NFL coaching, equipment use, and had to have signed an agreement for medical care if injured during those activities...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52837 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:06 am to
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You guys just don't get it. If the SEC had cared about compensation, practices, per diems, mini camps, injuries, etc. They would have addressed it. It's clear to me that they don't care about those items or they would have included language in their declaration statement. What they did mention, and seems that they care about is THE SIGNING OF A CONTRACT! Even then they didn't address if the guy makes the team or not, nothing, just did he sign or not.


This is exactly why the SEC’s stance isn’t going to hold up in court.
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1424 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:07 am to
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Now sec ranters are law experts.

Readily admitted I’m no expert on Louisiana’s Napoleanic Code, but have some fairly impressive legal credentials and experience.

At least, enough to know that when Harris and Wright formally signed contracts with NFL teams, it triggered the prohibitions (both NCAA and SEC) against them coming back to play in college.
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