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re: Texas has enrolled and rostered a former NFL player, LSU has not
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:15 am to TeeteringBrink
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:15 am to TeeteringBrink
"Under the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), teams provide tryout players with travel, lodging, meals, and a minimal per diem stipend to manage basic on-site costs. Unsigned rookies, draft picks without completed deals, and tryout players at rookie minicamps generally do not get a standard salary or per diem for those specific three days, though teams cover their travel, lodging, and meals, meaning any minor allowance given is strictly classified by the league as operational reimbursement rather than actual income"
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:18 am to RB10
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It’s amusing because “signing a contract” as the line in the sand opens such a massive loophole that will be exploited in the future.
Damn they really don’t understand the concept of contract law do they?
Well I do declare ya honah the contract my client voluntarily signed got him into a bind that is most unfavorable to his circumstances.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:18 am to tpatten
They get paid above travel, per diem and lodging. If you get paid, it is in fact actual income.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:19 am to ManBearSharkReb
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Damn they really don’t understand the concept of contract law do they?
Well I do declare ya honah the contract my client voluntarily signed got him into a bind that is most unfavorable to his circumstances.
Swing and a miss waterhead.
Strike one.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 9:20 am
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:22 am to DawgsLife
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Then you have players who are not signed as UDFA, and can ask to attend a minicamp and get an invite, but without a contract. They attend the camp with hopes of being signed to a contract during or following minicamp.
asking out of complete genuine lack of knowledge. would NFL teams let guys practice, even if for 1 day, without something being signed for liabilities? anything, money wise or health care wise or just covering liabilities wise, would be signed by both parties and be considered a contract?
so again, as we split hairs for defining "pro athletes", we are splitting hairs for "contracts". all of this could easily go away if the NCAA just cleared the class of 22 players since their rule was ill-timed.
additionally, regardless of the route a player got to a TRO, either all TRO's are honored, or none should be.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:24 am to DawgsLife
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I believe once a player declares for the NFL Draft, they should be excluded from playing college football at all....whether it is Harris, Hutson, or any of the other players caught up in this mess.
None of them “declared” for the draft. That is what underclassman with eligibility left do.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:24 am to caliegeaux
quote:Hell no. I have 2 friends who played in the NFL along time. You aren't attending mini camp without a signature.
would NFL teams let guys practice, even if for 1 day, without something being signed for liabilities?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:25 am to kajunman
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There is one significant difference between Hutson and some of the players LSU has pursued. Hutson attended NFL minicamps but never signed a professional contract or made an NFL roster,
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:27 am to jangalang
Say that all you want. You don't attend mini camp without signing up.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:30 am to jangalang
Again, drawing the line at “signed a contract” opens massive loopholes that will be exploited down the road.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:34 am to kajunman
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Say that all you want. You don't attend mini camp without signing up.
CBB players can do NBA workouts and combines without losing eligibilty. Golfers can win cash prizes up to 10,000 a year. There is always wiggle room. Football players can do mini camp for eval as long as they do not sign a pro contract.
There is also always the point of no return.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:34 am to Jabontik
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Cole Hutson signed an NFL contract. It's called a waiver and is legally binding on him and the Cowboys. He was also paid by 2 NFL teams to participate in tryouts, likely over$1,000 cash plus room and board etc.
Lets also remember that if you remove yourself from the draft then you aren't eligible to attend these camps. Cole did not remove himself and SEC rules state you must remove yourself from draft before the a certain date. He did not. People keep focusing on one thing and not looking at the entire deal.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:37 am to RB10
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Again, drawing the line at “signed a contract” opens massive loopholes that will be exploited down the road.
If there is no contract I dont see how it can be exploited. Players want to get paid and the NFL is not going to allow players play while technically unemployed.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:37 am to CatfishJohn
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What’s the penalty for Bama?
Bediako was ruled ineligible.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:40 am to kajunman
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Say that all you want. You don't attend mini camp without signing up.
I attended multiple football camps at Alabama when I was younger. I never even thought to call myself a college football player. Thanks, I will add that to the resume.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:42 am to captdalton
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I attended multiple football camps at Alabama when I was younger. I never even thought to call myself a college football player. Thanks, I will add that to the resume.
just so long as that resume bullet point is highlighting that the towels were clean, smelled fresh, and soft to the touch, add wtf you want.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:44 am to kajunman
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They get paid above travel, per diem and lodging. If you get paid, it is in fact actual income.
Report was that there was no contract he signed for him to get paid. So where's your evidence he was paid more than what I quoted from the NFL and how much?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:45 am to jangalang
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If there is no contract I dont see how it can be exploited. Players want to get paid and the NFL is not going to allow players play while technically unemployed.
That’s because you can’t see any further than your nose because “Kiffin bad. Bad bad man”.
The NFL will trip over themselves to not sign players who want to “try out” for free and every fringe player will do just that from now on.
I’m not going to get drafted? Ok I’ll just go to mini camp, refuse to sign any contract unless it meets my demands, and just go back to college if I get cut.
That door is now wide open.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:45 am to RB10
quote:It probably will, once heard by a judge or appellate panel not subject to local influence. There is ample precedent for the proposition that the organizations should be determining eligibility and not the courts. You think it should be the other way around, but no court would agree with that, they all claim to be singular exceptions.
The SEC saying “those former pros are fine, but THESE are not” isn’t going to hold up in court.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:47 am to RB10
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If you had any sort of legal expertise, and were looking through an objective lense, you’d understand that where the SEC has drawn the line is exactly why they are going to lose these judgements, and the appeals
Well, objectivity can be in the eye of the beholder. But any attorneys with legal expertise will, when a case is first dropped on their desk, ask what the cause of action is. Contract? Tort? Statutory? Other breach of duty?
As far as I can tell from these recent lawsuits, there really is none (certainly not against the SEC). They’re basically saying “we don’t like that you adopted the 5-in-5 rule after our eligibility was over, and you chose not to make it retroactive.” Or, “we don’t like your rule prohibiting NFL players coming back to college.”
Personally, I think it was a mistake for the ncaa not to have made the rule change retroactive. But that doesn’t mean there’s any valid legal cause of action to second-guess it.
Maybe the judge tomorrow will find something to hang his hat on, but I don’t think it will stand up to “objective” legal review. We will see.
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