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Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
I'd guess 5 years in modern coaching is a milestone year and 6+ years is considered longevity.
It is low expectations not no expectations. And, you can't be both toxic and a losing coach.
So, there is some context there to the Arizona examples, some of which you highlighted.
- Makovich: Fired 5 games into the 2003 season following a player revolt, widespread complaints of verbal abuse toward players, AND severe on-field regression.
-Stoops: managed to exceed modern longevity with 8 years as HC with a sub-500 record
- Rich Rod: as you highlighted, he was fired following an internal investigation into workplace culture and sexual harassment allegations by a former assistant. That is 6 years of mediocre coaching (43-35) that took sexual harrassment to justify/spark departure.
- Fisch: left to take better job.
So, it supports the point that some schools will accept mediocrity and pay well. But, you can self-select out by being a toxic leader/off field issues.
It is low expectations not no expectations. And, you can't be both toxic and a losing coach.
So, there is some context there to the Arizona examples, some of which you highlighted.
- Makovich: Fired 5 games into the 2003 season following a player revolt, widespread complaints of verbal abuse toward players, AND severe on-field regression.
-Stoops: managed to exceed modern longevity with 8 years as HC with a sub-500 record
- Rich Rod: as you highlighted, he was fired following an internal investigation into workplace culture and sexual harassment allegations by a former assistant. That is 6 years of mediocre coaching (43-35) that took sexual harrassment to justify/spark departure.
- Fisch: left to take better job.
So, it supports the point that some schools will accept mediocrity and pay well. But, you can self-select out by being a toxic leader/off field issues.
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:30 pm to captdalton
The top 3 in the SEC are prob
Georgia
Tenn
Texas
Georgia
Tenn
Texas
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:06 pm to hookem33
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We suck at hiring head coaches and that has held us back most years. Sark is an improvement from the last two by far but he's not someone who can win it all.
Then again that list is pretty damn small. I shite on Sark a lot. I hate his arrogance that blinds him to his own limitations on offense but he's not a bad coach.
I just don't think he can win a title.
Many, too many to mention, of the world's greatest artists, poets, and intellectuals across every time period in the history of the world only fully reached their potential when drinking alcohol.
It releases their creative spirit and allows them to function, some say, at a level way above those who don't drink.
This holds true for a great majority of former college coaches too. Maybe Sarkisian should just have a few drinks here and there, and learn how to be able to handle it like an adult, and he would likely do much better.
I don't keep up with Texas athletics that much, but maybe you could send him some information, somehow, on the benefits of drinking alcohol.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:09 pm to Gatorbait2008
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The top 3 in the SEC are prob Georgia Tenn Texas
I’m a Dawg fan and I don’t understand your list. Tennessee?
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:28 pm to byrt bulimia
This is more difficult to come up with in the current CFB landscape.
Texas
LSU/UGA/Bama/Oklahoma
Texas AM/Tennessee/Florida
Auburn/Ole Miss
Texas
LSU/UGA/Bama/Oklahoma
Texas AM/Tennessee/Florida
Auburn/Ole Miss
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:38 pm to BreakawayZou83
I wouldn't put A&M above LSU or OU. The A&M admin is wretched.
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:07 pm to AUTiger789
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Auburn has been a better job than TN for half a century.
Similar expectations from the fanbases, but Auburn is in a much better location in terms of proximity to high school talent.
Tennessee is also burdened by having a top 2 alumni city being 400+ miles away (Memphis). That complicates engagement with large donors. 75%+ of Auburn's season ticket holders / big donors live within about 120 miles of Auburn.
When it comes to what constitutes a program being a "good job", I can't think of one area that Tennessee is better than Auburn.
Gotta push back on this a little bit.
While your comments about donors in Memphis is an interesting one...
The rest of the post requires some counter argument.
First, recruiting wise... Tennessee is actually in a better position than Auburn IMO... They can recruit the south... they can recruit North Carolina and the DMV and they can actually reach into Ohio. Also, they have no real in state competition for players. There certainly isn't a Bama to contend with in state... that is for sure.
NIL changes that... but Tennessee probably has more resources than all but a handful of programs. Throw in one of the largest stadiums with a fan following that is second to none...
I'd have rank Tennessee above Auburn in terms of what a coach has to work with. In fact I'd rate them ahead of OU.
But winning matters a lot too. And both Auburn recently and OU historically have a bit of an edge on the Vols.
Granted, NIL changes this... but they are in
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