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re: Rank SEC Head Coaching Jobs
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
I'd guess 5 years in modern coaching is a milestone year and 6+ years is considered longevity.
It is low expectations not no expectations. And, you can't be both toxic and a losing coach.
So, there is some context there to the Arizona examples, some of which you highlighted.
- Makovich: Fired 5 games into the 2003 season following a player revolt, widespread complaints of verbal abuse toward players, AND severe on-field regression.
-Stoops: managed to exceed modern longevity with 8 years as HC with a sub-500 record
- Rich Rod: as you highlighted, he was fired following an internal investigation into workplace culture and sexual harassment allegations by a former assistant. That is 6 years of mediocre coaching (43-35) that took sexual harrassment to justify/spark departure.
- Fisch: left to take better job.
So, it supports the point that some schools will accept mediocrity and pay well. But, you can self-select out by being a toxic leader/off field issues.
It is low expectations not no expectations. And, you can't be both toxic and a losing coach.
So, there is some context there to the Arizona examples, some of which you highlighted.
- Makovich: Fired 5 games into the 2003 season following a player revolt, widespread complaints of verbal abuse toward players, AND severe on-field regression.
-Stoops: managed to exceed modern longevity with 8 years as HC with a sub-500 record
- Rich Rod: as you highlighted, he was fired following an internal investigation into workplace culture and sexual harassment allegations by a former assistant. That is 6 years of mediocre coaching (43-35) that took sexual harrassment to justify/spark departure.
- Fisch: left to take better job.
So, it supports the point that some schools will accept mediocrity and pay well. But, you can self-select out by being a toxic leader/off field issues.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:30 pm to captdalton
The top 3 in the SEC are prob
Georgia
Tenn
Texas
Georgia
Tenn
Texas
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:06 pm to hookem33
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We suck at hiring head coaches and that has held us back most years. Sark is an improvement from the last two by far but he's not someone who can win it all.
Then again that list is pretty damn small. I shite on Sark a lot. I hate his arrogance that blinds him to his own limitations on offense but he's not a bad coach.
I just don't think he can win a title.
Many, too many to mention, of the world's greatest artists, poets, and intellectuals across every time period in the history of the world only fully reached their potential when drinking alcohol.
It releases their creative spirit and allows them to function, some say, at a level way above those who don't drink.
This holds true for a great majority of former college coaches too. Maybe Sarkisian should just have a few drinks here and there, and learn how to be able to handle it like an adult, and he would likely do much better.
I don't keep up with Texas athletics that much, but maybe you could send him some information, somehow, on the benefits of drinking alcohol.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:09 pm to Gatorbait2008
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The top 3 in the SEC are prob Georgia Tenn Texas
I’m a Dawg fan and I don’t understand your list. Tennessee?
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:28 pm to byrt bulimia
This is more difficult to come up with in the current CFB landscape.
Texas
LSU/UGA/Bama/Oklahoma
Texas AM/Tennessee/Florida
Auburn/Ole Miss
Texas
LSU/UGA/Bama/Oklahoma
Texas AM/Tennessee/Florida
Auburn/Ole Miss
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:38 pm to BreakawayZou83
I wouldn't put A&M above LSU or OU. The A&M admin is wretched.
Rodo
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:07 pm to AUTiger789
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Auburn has been a better job than TN for half a century.
Similar expectations from the fanbases, but Auburn is in a much better location in terms of proximity to high school talent.
Tennessee is also burdened by having a top 2 alumni city being 400+ miles away (Memphis). That complicates engagement with large donors. 75%+ of Auburn's season ticket holders / big donors live within about 120 miles of Auburn.
When it comes to what constitutes a program being a "good job", I can't think of one area that Tennessee is better than Auburn.
Gotta push back on this a little bit.
While your comments about donors in Memphis is an interesting one...
The rest of the post requires some counter argument.
First, recruiting wise... Tennessee is actually in a better position than Auburn IMO... They can recruit the south... they can recruit North Carolina and the DMV and they can actually reach into Ohio. Also, they have no real in state competition for players. There certainly isn't a Bama to contend with in state... that is for sure.
NIL changes that... but Tennessee probably has more resources than all but a handful of programs. Throw in one of the largest stadiums with a fan following that is second to none...
I'd have rank Tennessee above Auburn in terms of what a coach has to work with. In fact I'd rate them ahead of OU.
But winning matters a lot too. And both Auburn recently and OU historically have a bit of an edge on the Vols.
Granted, NIL changes this... but they are in
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:28 am to TexasWranglers
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Because it's not an exact science. You aren't going to money whip the best of the best and the tier 2 coaches may not want to leave to deal with the bs that Texas carries with it. Why deal with a Texas with limited job security when I if you are already very good you can be a lifer coach and have job security without the extra bs a job like Texas forces on you? That's why we struggle getting the best coaches.
I agree with you but we also have had far too many cooks in the kitchen with boosters who think they should be picking the next coach.
CDC seems to have better control over them but it hasn't brought us any championships. Perhaps you're right and Sark is the best we can do.
I just wish he'd hire someone to run the offense.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:33 am to captdalton
1A UGA
1B Bama
3 Texas
4 Texas A&M
5 LSU
6A Florida
6B Tennessee
8 Auburn
9 Ole Miss
10 Arkansas
11 Missouri
12 Kentucky
13 Vandy
14 Mississippi State
1B Bama
3 Texas
4 Texas A&M
5 LSU
6A Florida
6B Tennessee
8 Auburn
9 Ole Miss
10 Arkansas
11 Missouri
12 Kentucky
13 Vandy
14 Mississippi State
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:35 am to OMapologist
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8 Auburn
9 Ole Miss
I think Ole Miss is well ahead of Auburn at this point
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:45 am to JayWalkTiger
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frick it, I’ll play. Just based of my opinion that doesn’t mean shite tbh.
1. Bama (a truly elite coach + bama= multiple natties)
2. UGA
3a. LSU
3b. Texas
4. Oklahoma
5. Florida
6. Auburn
This is about right. Texas wins for resources, but Alabama still has that "thing" that makes it the elite job in the conference. Sark and Kiff would have both been happy to have that job given the chance.
And for all our historical success at OU, I think most people would consider it easier to build a championship program at LSU, Georgia or Alabama. That makes it a better job, and their recent titles bear that out. And Texas, simply because of the money and their in state talent base. We still depend on kids from Texas to make our program successful.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:53 am to Gatorbait2008
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Georgia
Tenn
Texas
Tennessee is probably 5 or 6 best
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:00 am to hookem33
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This. You always see Georgia, Bama, Texas, A&M, LSU in "best coaching jobs" lists. bullshite.
Go make millions with lowered expectations somewhere else. That's the dream job.
I think this is a little bit of an illusion. South Carolina compared to Bama doesnt have the expectations but its still an SEC program. SC compared to Wake Forest or UMD isn't even close when it comes to pressure. UMD vs Troy same thing, and so on.
So for a coach that grinds his way to SC or Miss State, its more expectation and pressure than the previous tier, so they are still striving to get to that Bama level, or build their program to that level of expectation (Dabo). With it comes $ and prestige.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:01 am to Gunga Din
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While your comments about donors in Memphis is an interesting one...
That might affect UT's donor relationship, but I'm not so sure that's true. They always have the Vol Caravan that comes to Memphis and with the primary medical school being in Memphis, they have a solid anchor here for support. Lots of docs in Memphis are big supporters. But Memphis also has a large Ole Miss alumni base. I see as many if not more Ole Miss alumni.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:08 am to captdalton
1. Bama...most storied program in CFB history
2. Texas...top 5 most storied program
3. Oklahoma...top 10 most storied program
4. Georgia...top 15 most storied program
5. LSU...some people willing to spend $$$ to win
2. Texas...top 5 most storied program
3. Oklahoma...top 10 most storied program
4. Georgia...top 15 most storied program
5. LSU...some people willing to spend $$$ to win
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:09 am to hookem33
Agree too many boosters meddling and cooks in the kitchen is what I'm talking about, that's unnattracitve for the top coaches out there.
I think we are in better hands with CDC. I think we give Sark this year given he feels he doesn't have to worry about the D. Might be an excuse cause Pete was a good DC but this is his year to shine, if he doesn't get it done I think he needs to hire someone for O to help
I think we are in better hands with CDC. I think we give Sark this year given he feels he doesn't have to worry about the D. Might be an excuse cause Pete was a good DC but this is his year to shine, if he doesn't get it done I think he needs to hire someone for O to help
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:12 am to TexasWranglers
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I think we are in better hands with CDC.
The AD who hasn’t had a men’s Big 3 title in his entire career
His Upside Down Pineapple Parties though…
Schloss loves those.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:25 am to Che Boludo
It was kind of hard to take Mark Stoops seriously despite his good record by Kentucky standards. He was like a master at always winning games where Kentucky looked like dogshit and the post-game SP+ analysis said that Kentucky had a 99.5% chance of losing based on the statistics.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:36 am to UFFan
My best guess:
1. Texas
2. UGA
3. Bama
4. LSU
5. Oklahoma
6. Florida
7. Texas A&M
8. Tennessee
9. Auburn
10. Ole Miss
11. Arkansas
12. Missouri
13. South Carlina
14. Kentucky
15. Miss state
16. Vandy
1. Texas
2. UGA
3. Bama
4. LSU
5. Oklahoma
6. Florida
7. Texas A&M
8. Tennessee
9. Auburn
10. Ole Miss
11. Arkansas
12. Missouri
13. South Carlina
14. Kentucky
15. Miss state
16. Vandy
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