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Dumbest comment I’ve read. NW Arkansas is beautiful and one of the best places to live In the US. Great area


I guess you've never been in the Ouachita Mountains in Arkansas... To me they are better than the Ozarks.

Reason being. Pine forest mixed with hardwoods, taller mountains, wider valleys. Ozarks are way tighter, flatter on the top, and what pines they had have been pretty much harvested out.

I never said NW Arkansas wasn't pretty???... Just that SW Arkansas is actually prettier. Anybody who took that post as slight to NW Arkansas misread my intent.

DChog understands what I am talking about.

re: A history lesson: Oklahoma

Posted by Gunga Din on 8/7/26 at 7:08 am to
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Most of the Cherokee allied/fought with the south here in Oklahoma in the civil war. As did we all.



Just to clarify... Even before the war... the Cherokee were split into two factions... The old settlers (who came to Arkansas in the 1820s and later to Oklahoma) and the later group headed by John Ross... the group that travelled the Trail of Tears in the 1830s.

The Old Settlers were solidly confederate while the John Ross Group basically switched sides to the Union during the way.

After the war... the old settlers and the Ross faction continued to fight. To this day they are split. The Old Settlers basically became the Keetowah Tribe of Cherokee and the John Ross group the Cherokee Nation.

Also, Sam Houston... on his way to Texas tried to convince John Ross to come to Texas and establish an Indian Nation in Texas. Some of them actually went... and there is actually some Cherokee history in Texas. Main story is them doing a revenge massacre on the Waco.
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Arch is mid


In other words... Arch is nowhere close to the hype.... but better than you wish he was if you are an opponent.

re: A history lesson: Oklahoma

Posted by Gunga Din on 8/6/26 at 2:47 pm to
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Federal law under the Missouri Compromise strictly dictated that the 36°30' parallel was the absolute northern limit for any slave state. To comply with this federal geographic limit during the Compromise of 1850, Texas had to legally slice off the very top of its territory and surrender it to the federal government. Once Texas gave it up, it became a carrion territory, with no authorities of any kind. For four decades, this 34-mile-wide strip was a haven for outlaws. In 1890, true to the spirit of the buzzardly sooner state, Oklahoma formally scavenged the territory.

Point is: Oklahoma has always been the way they are.


After that.... we took away Greer County from Texas... and then we took the Red River away from Texas. The actual border between the two states is the south bank of the Red River.

Point being... We HAVE always been the way we are. But we pretty skilled at stealing land.

re: Favorite SEC Rivalry Game

Posted by Gunga Din on 8/6/26 at 8:34 am to
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But I still think OU tx is the best. Been played 125 times. More characters and colorful history than any rivalry in the country.


You can argue all over the place regarding what is the best rivalry...

Who hates who the most, who has the most fights and stabbings, which is the highest stakes game, best traditions... and all that... and you can make a case for a lot of different games. In fact one of the things that hurts the RRS in this argument is that it isn't on rivalry weekend.

But that is the irony. when you add up all the factors and then throw in the setting... Nothing compares to the Red River game. Being at the fair makes that game a grander event than any other game. There are as many people milling about the fair as as there are inside the stadium.... It is as much a spectacle as it is a game.

Yet if you moved it to the end of the season where some of the other rivalry factors could be bumped up... you lose the elements of the fair.... which would knock it back down.
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How venomous would this board be if OU played TexAss in the SECCG - LMAO. Someday it will probably happen, but this soon would send the old guard into a hypertensive stroke!


I'm not counting any chickens before they hatch...

But after spending years of hearing about how OU and Texas weren't ready for the SEC (in any sport) it would be nice to finally not have to listen to that anymore.

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I am not sure I consider golfers athletes. I mean Arnold Palmer(when he older and playing he was very fat), John Daly, Craig Stadler, etc.

Def takes skill no doubt..but they are not athletes.


Obviously this post is going to ruffle some feathers...

But I tend to agree that in terms of traditional "athleticism" golf doesn't require as much as other sports...

But we still need to give credit for those people that are elite at sports that require high levels of hand-eye coordination. And at least golf has a strength component to it... which kind of separates it from billiards and bowling.

I see golfers as much artists as athletes.
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Texas v OU should be on the list


We aren't allowed to sit at the cool kids table yet. :lol:
There was just a news story on our local news about State Farm Insurance ripping somebody off...

I remember we had a kid who had wrecked his car in HS...

The coach asked him who is insurance company was.... Kid said "State Farm".... And the coach said... "Well... your neighbor will fix that car before State Farm ever will."

I never bought insurance from State Farm based on that wisecrack... so that might have been the most valuable thing a coach ever told me.
"Son, you probably would be better off taking up something else"....

Heard that from several coaches.
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Damn I’m disappointed in Oklahoma. You guys can do better than that man


Part of this is due to the fact that Oklahoma is pretty much an ACT state.

OU accepts the SAT... but hardly any Oklahoma HS students take it. They take the ACT.

SAT results are likely mostly coming from Texas students who end up at OU because Texas is an SAT state.

re: Oklahoma team win total

Posted by Gunga Din on 8/3/26 at 7:20 am to
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Plus what makes anyone think Venables will even want to open up the offense? He’s a defensive minded coach that was conservative a lot last year. Call me crazy but OU could lose to Michigan, Texas, UGA, A&M and Ole Miss. They could go 7-5 or 8-4 just as easily as 10-2.


As to your first comment...

Venables is pretty hands off on the offense. His OC is going to have free reign for the most part. Mostly because Venables doesn't even have a D coordinator anymore. He's it.

As for your second point... I agree. If OU lost every game to a team that has the potential to beat them... They could go 5-7... last year they played in a bunch of tight games and won all of them except Ole Miss... Texas was kind of tight for a while... but wasn't a one score game.

We'll see how they do in tight games this season.

re: 1973 Cotton Bowl Classic

Posted by Gunga Din on 8/2/26 at 1:03 pm to
In my attempt to educate myself on the SEC... I have religiously watched that series on SEC history...

Regarding that game... Sly Croom was interviewed... And he said that "Alabama didn't want to be there".....

So it doesn't count...

Sorry.
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I love Kamario Taylor's upside,


that kid is one of those talent oozers... who you just hope is a gamer and is clutch in high pressure situations.
OU fans have never really gotten over losing to that Oklahoma City Town team back in '95... ruined what would have otherwise been a perfect season.
For Oklahoma...

Probably number one of the list would be either the 1966 win over Texas after losing eight straight...

Or 1971 over Texas after losing twelve of thirteen.

Other candidates...

Beating Notre Dame in 2013 after losing to them every time we played them other than in 1956.

John Blake's 0-4 team beating Texas in 1996.

OU beating Ohio State in the Shoe in 2017 after they drilled OU in Norman the year before.

Beating Nebraska in Lincoln in 1972 and getting revenge on Johnny Rodgers and Bob Devaney for the loss in the GOTC the year before. Bob Devaney's last home game.
You can talk like that when your conference wins a bunch of natties in a row...

Lord knows the SEC did it when they won the NC every year.

But as you stated... The Big 10 is top heavy and the SEC now is really balanced. There are probably twice as many really solid teams in the SEC than there are in the Big 10 right now.
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with lanoris sellers back again im a little suprised there isnt a little more hype for them.


Sellers actually reminds me of Vince Young...A Vince Young with little to no talent around him.
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I would think Oklahoma would be the Rose Bowl against Georgia


Sam's wife was an OU grad and gave OU a little bit of money through the years... She was from Claremore.

Of course, Sam went to Mizzou so some Walton money went up there including the basketball arena.

re: Toughest losses

Posted by Gunga Din on 7/31/26 at 2:11 pm to
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I would think Oklahoma would be the Rose Bowl against Georgia


Boise State was embarrassing more than anything...

Georgia was painful...

But there is no doubt that the toughest OU loss in history was the 1971 game against Nebraska. It was at home...it was the last of a serious of Games of the Century in the mid to late '60s and early '70s....

I don't even think the Georgia loss was as soul crushing as that '71 loss to Nebraska was.... but of course you would have had to been alive to be able to appreciate it. :lol: