Gunga Din

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Texas fans, what an amazing story.

How I only recently heard about Freddie is wild.

Love the old footage of Coach Royal about to choke up before giving Freddie the game ball.

Just another thing that makes college football so beautiful.

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I was about a eleven/twelve years old during that time. As an OU fan it was especially painful because Texas had beaten OU 12 out of 13 years under Royal... Who had been a star OU QB twenty years earlier.

So we despised Royal and Texas at that time.

But I will never, ever forget Freddie Steinmark walking out of the Cotton Bowl tunnel on crutches with his leg amputated just a few short weeks ago in order to stand on the sidelines with his teammates during that Cotton Bowl game.

And as crazy as it is... I actually own the jacket that Darrell Royal wore during that game.

For Oklahoma....

There was a quasi field rush after Bama in 2024....

But there was most definitely one after OU beat #1 Nebraska in 2000. So that would be it.

One of the funniest things ever in the history of OU football happened in 1997 after OU upset Donavan McNabb and #13 Syracuse.

A number of OU fans rushed the field... But only a limited number. When they got on the field.. everybody kind of looked around and then looked at each other and thought... What are we doing out here? So everybody just kind of stood there and chatted each other up.

Another thing about that game was that Donavan McNabb brought his team to the line on a play... began to call signals... then suddenly turned and puked all over the field.

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Historically, the top three athletic programs in the country (UCLA, Stanford and USC) have mostly built their national title trophy counts in sports other than football. And as much as I hate to admit it, Texas is becoming very similar to those three schools.

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Texas has the luxury of having rich people who are willing to fund minor sports. And it is making a difference big time.

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Is OU even capable of having sustained success in a conference where it isn't them, one other good school, and a bunch of nobodies that they can beat up on to inflate their record? Returns are still early but it is trending towards, "No."

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I think most rational OU fans did not think we would come into the SEC and do what we did in the Big XII. But we did think we would be a top 4-6 type program.

I still think that that is basically where OU teams under Stoops and Riley would have slotted most years. Maybe not every year.

Flat out... Venables is putting out a 1990s level OU product. And we are getting 1990s results.

And quite frankly... with NIL and free transfer... there is the possibility that OU can't ever get there again. (The new Nebraska thing).

But it is frustrating for OU (and Nebraska) fans to have to have their legacy teams trashed because they aren't currently performing in the SEC and Big 10.

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Oklahoma loses 68-64 to a team that doesn’t even have a logo on google.

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For the record... They are "Lions".

It looks like OU had between 500 and 1000 fans show up for this debacle. And I promise you there weren't more than 500 fans who were there at the end of the game.

Effectively OU lost because they shot like 48% from the foul line on like 32 foul shots...

But watching the action... the two teams seemed fairly matched. That is the sad part about it.

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Same old Arch that shows up every Saturday,

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Both Arches show up for every game. Just like both Cams show up every game.

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Ive heard that. But ive also heard that Heupels dad is at the complex nearly everyday and is part of Heupels inner council especially during spring practice so who knows

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I can promise you that he still has his house in Edmond, OK. But it isn't like he can't afford to have two places given Josh' salary.

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Wearing a sport coat doesn't mean you're in a "elite social club". You're reading into things that aren't accurate.

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I think it is kind of cool in a way. Back when Ole Miss and Oxford were tiny, tiny... they developed that southern gentility thing.

You really couldn't go there if you weren't wealthy because you couldn't be part time or a commuter. There were no jobs to be had to work your way through school in a tiny town. There weren't student loans to the extent there were today. So it kind of developed as a rich kid's school/country club kind of place.

While all southern schools have elements of that. Basically that was all Ole Miss was back in the day... and while it is no longer completely that way... the tradition kind of stuck.

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Been there many times, and I'm quite aware of the faux-elitism you can find on campus with its affluent families. What I'm talking about is the tacky way certain people act like they're superior to others because of these bullshite college rankings. It's so distasteful.

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I see what you are complaining about... but I just can't take it seriously from them. After all... It's just Mississippi. In Oklahoma, we are used to Texans... who really take "being better than" you to heart.

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It helped that one of our boys Allen Patrick was an OU guy.

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I knew Allen when he was at OU...

There was a local vet who started a Pit Bull rescue simply because OU football players were getting and abandoning Pit Bulls left and right. Allen had a Pit Bull.

His dog was named "Tank" and he actually took care of "Tank"... which we appreciated. We never had to place Tank.

Several people in Norman ended up with Pit Bulls from those guys including myself.

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I get that most here don't do a lot of historical reading, but LSU is one of the programs widely credited for pioneering night college football games. It's a whole thing.

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I have a friend who is about 70 years old now. He grew up in a small town in western Oklahoma and went to OU.

I was talking to him once and he said he had two favorite teams...OU and LSU.

I asked him why he liked LSU and he told me that he grew up listening to the OU game on the radio during the day... and at night he would listen to the LSU games because he could get that New Orleans station clear out in western Oklahoma. Since there wasn't much to do in his tiny town... and there were never prime time games on TV. Listening to the LSU game was just what he did on Saturday nights in the fall.

You are basically asking people to come out on a Thursday night and basically watch High School football in terms of talent.

I think you would probably get about the equivalent of a high school crowd from the local fans... but nobody is going to drive in to watch that if there is a real game on Saturday.

If these games were played on Saturdays and were the actual team... maybe more would come.

I DO think you could force schools to only recruit players who meet the school's actual admission standards and have a product that would bring crowds. It would be roughly on par with Ivy league football... but I think it would be good enough quality to get fans to still come.