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re: A clearer picture regarding LSU and the rumors around private equity is emerging
Posted by rebsfan10 on 8/10/26 at 10:17 am to Tigerpride18
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so your thought is that somehow lsu is the only school in the country thats in a position to have to do something like this, when they have more donations than 90 percent of d1 schools. it just doesnt make sense .
what % of schools owed roughly $70M to fired football coaches and additional millions to buy out a new coaching staff while having a top 3 paid HC, highest paid OC and 2nd highest paid DC?
re: A clearer picture regarding LSU and the rumors around private equity is emerging
Posted by rebsfan10 on 8/9/26 at 8:39 pm to captdalton
Sure sounds like it was going to be exactly what everyone thought 10% to private equity for $100M and once there was all the negativity about it they are trying to come up with some other plan. Feel like this is the 2nd of 3rd different "leak" about what it actually is.
re: My 100% honest, no bullshite, no bias SEC program all time rankings
Posted by rebsfan10 on 8/7/26 at 11:19 am to BreakawayZou83
I think you almost have to just look at it in tiers
Tier 1 - Alabama - really no question they are head and shoulders above everyone when it comes to history and recent history. National Championships, Heisman trophy winners, probably the 2 best coaches in history.
Tier 2 - Oklahoma, UGA, LSU - I'm looking at Oklahoma's history here and not just focusing on what they've done since coming to the SEC. All 3 are top 10 programs historically and UGA is arguably the best program in college football right now. UGA has maybe the best college football player ever in Herschel and LSU has arguably the best team of all time.
Tier 3- Texas, Auburn, UT and Florida - All have national championships and have different moments throughout every decade where they were a contender and all have moments in those same decades where they were somewhat irrelevant. Peyton, Cam, Tebow, and Vince Young are 4 of the 7 best college qbs I've ever seen.
Tier 4- Ole Miss, Arkansas, A&M- Big swings here with these teams of being really good and really terrible. Ole Miss has been better lately, but A&M can be a monster with NIL and Arkansas should be if they can get their billionaires committed. Manziel is one of the 5 most memorable college football players of the last 20 years in my opinion and the Mannings are the first family of football and that started at Ole Miss.
Tier 5- Missouri & South Carolina- Had a great run when they first came to the SEC, but not sure they have the names to be included with the tier 4 group. Honestly I don't know who the best players in their program history are besides Kellen Winslow. USC has had some incredible players but just don't remember them being much of a player in the SEC in my lifetime.
Tier 6- State, Kentucky, Vandy - Think they've each had longer stretches of being irrelevant than anyone else. Not as many famous names and just fewer memorable seasons or moments.
Tier 1 - Alabama - really no question they are head and shoulders above everyone when it comes to history and recent history. National Championships, Heisman trophy winners, probably the 2 best coaches in history.
Tier 2 - Oklahoma, UGA, LSU - I'm looking at Oklahoma's history here and not just focusing on what they've done since coming to the SEC. All 3 are top 10 programs historically and UGA is arguably the best program in college football right now. UGA has maybe the best college football player ever in Herschel and LSU has arguably the best team of all time.
Tier 3- Texas, Auburn, UT and Florida - All have national championships and have different moments throughout every decade where they were a contender and all have moments in those same decades where they were somewhat irrelevant. Peyton, Cam, Tebow, and Vince Young are 4 of the 7 best college qbs I've ever seen.
Tier 4- Ole Miss, Arkansas, A&M- Big swings here with these teams of being really good and really terrible. Ole Miss has been better lately, but A&M can be a monster with NIL and Arkansas should be if they can get their billionaires committed. Manziel is one of the 5 most memorable college football players of the last 20 years in my opinion and the Mannings are the first family of football and that started at Ole Miss.
Tier 5- Missouri & South Carolina- Had a great run when they first came to the SEC, but not sure they have the names to be included with the tier 4 group. Honestly I don't know who the best players in their program history are besides Kellen Winslow. USC has had some incredible players but just don't remember them being much of a player in the SEC in my lifetime.
Tier 6- State, Kentucky, Vandy - Think they've each had longer stretches of being irrelevant than anyone else. Not as many famous names and just fewer memorable seasons or moments.
Really want to see what Cunningham can do when healthy. Has all the talent to be a 1st round pick one day.
Parents of college and pro athletes need to get off social media. Nothing good can come from that and you owe it to your kid to avoid posting anything that can reflect poorly on them.
My guess is the kid feels a lot of pressure and reads how many wins they need to save his coach's job and the dad is making a post to try and help people ease up. I understand if that's the reason behind it, but people blow everything out of proportion these days so the dad should just avoid social media.
My guess is the kid feels a lot of pressure and reads how many wins they need to save his coach's job and the dad is making a post to try and help people ease up. I understand if that's the reason behind it, but people blow everything out of proportion these days so the dad should just avoid social media.
re: OM fans, a moment of appreciation
Posted by rebsfan10 on 8/6/26 at 8:35 am to TigerScorpion
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hinking of this rivalry always leads me to when Mettenberger threw the game, in which we were heavily favored.
I'll never forget that. We had 3 or 4 injuries at cornerback so we had to move Derick Jones from receiver that week to help cover Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry. Thought we'd lose by 20 and Mettenberger made some just terrible throws. Jones ended up getting switched to defense permanently after that.
re: Chips floating in air, will Ole Miss be the same without CLK and Weiss jr?
Posted by rebsfan10 on 8/5/26 at 4:23 pm to tigerbait17
I think the offense will stay the same for the most part, but we'll miss a few key checks at the line that Lane calls when he sees something not many people can see. That is where Lane is special. His work ethic isn't near what most other coaches are, so he's not recruiting as hard or watching the game film as much, but he can break down a defense quicker than 99% of the world and call the perfect play.
Optimistically, while I know there are 5 or so plays that Lane would have made the perfect play call to get the first down or a big play, I'm hoping Pete and this staff will avoid some of the dumb and ego calls he would make that would also cost us. Still will probably be a net negative for us on offense losing Lane, but that and the experience coming back are why I'm hopeful that the drop off won't be huge.
Weiss did a hell of a job last year, but if you looked at Ole Miss message boards in 2025, 90% of people were begging for him to leave or be fired. Obviously a lot changed last year but I think he can be replaced without missing too much.
Optimistically, while I know there are 5 or so plays that Lane would have made the perfect play call to get the first down or a big play, I'm hoping Pete and this staff will avoid some of the dumb and ego calls he would make that would also cost us. Still will probably be a net negative for us on offense losing Lane, but that and the experience coming back are why I'm hopeful that the drop off won't be huge.
Weiss did a hell of a job last year, but if you looked at Ole Miss message boards in 2025, 90% of people were begging for him to leave or be fired. Obviously a lot changed last year but I think he can be replaced without missing too much.
re: So it begins - LSU rumored to make deal with PE
Posted by rebsfan10 on 8/4/26 at 1:44 pm to tigerbait2010
Wonder if this means LSU will finally have the money to pay us for Princewill and Harper.
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/31/26 at 3:43 pm to RebelExpress38
I do wonder what LSU's staff and AD feel about it. On one hand I'm sure they don't want the players to have to pay it or feel they have to help pay, on the other, LSU doesn't want to deal with their own players potentially breaking rev share contracts. These schools want to know once a player has signed their deal, they can move on to the next player knowing he's playing for them next year.
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/31/26 at 12:46 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Hayes seems to have been getting some scoops from kiffin lately since he got mad at Chris low so it's not a surprise lane would call in a favor
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/30/26 at 10:36 pm to stopitnow1
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We know little boy, you are more obsessed with LSU than old piss, lol.
Again, try and argue on here like you have hit puberty or at least have a grade school education.
This case will be interesting. At the end of the day the $1M isn't really going to matter to ole Miss or lsu. It will hurt the players if they have to pay as I'm not sure either is really an nfl player, but the interesting part is what it means for these contracts going forward. Miami had to pay off duke, the buyout kept demond Williams from going to lsu. How this is handled will have a big impact on college football.
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/30/26 at 4:14 pm to stopitnow1
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Sounds like you dont do shite for your community, LOL. Enjoy falling back into being irrelevant again.
Yeah I'm sure that's why you are doing it. I'm a fan, but Ole Miss being the best team in the country or the worst doesn't really impact my life. Know it's a little different for some of you boys down in the bayou that live and die with LSU athletics. Might want to realize there's a little more to life than that.
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/30/26 at 3:14 pm to stopitnow1
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I work one of the highschool camps. Theres already been rumors of kids thinking about decomitting from old piss because of this. You dumbass cucks are about to be worse than moo state and vandy, lol.
HA, not sure I can get too worked up arguing with someone working high school football camps and says old piss and moo state.
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/29/26 at 12:54 pm to stopitnow1
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You guys paid them for their name image and likeness, right? Thats whats legal in college sports. You didn't pay them to pay them to play, right? Because they can still meet the contractual obligations if that were the case. Now if you paid them to play that would be a violation and the contract would be voidable
I have not seen the contracts so I'll admit I'm going entirely based on what is being reported, but this is what I have seen reported, "student-athletes Devin Harper and Princewill Umanmielen signed revenue sharing agreements that included a provision requiring them to compensate the university with a predetermined amount if they departed before fulfilling their commitment." that amount was $500,000 for Princewill and $450,000 for Harper.
I have no idea what the rest of those contracts say or if they are enforceable, but it does appear that both these players signed these contracts of their own free will, and then decided to break these contracts when LSU offered more money. Obviously as an Ole Miss fan I'm biased, but at least trying to look at it objectively, I don't see how it's hard to look at anyone but these 2 as being in the wrong. Did Ole Miss miss out on another player or 2 because they thought this money would be tied up with these 2? I don't know, but I'd imagine that is part of the reason these schools include penalty language in there because they do get harmed by the players not fulfilling the obligations outlined in the contract.
re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/29/26 at 10:36 am to Adam Banks
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egally yes. OM is in the right here. If I remember right from Pete’s presser though there are a few more than just these two that went to LSU. Would be interesting if that comes up in court the differential response
I believe these 2 are the only ones that signed the rev share agreements. I can't remember if Chris Jones signed one. He was the lb transfer from Southern Miss that signed with us but then went to FSU. Other transfers from OM to LSU, Watkins and Dottery never signed.
Honestly this has nothing to do with LSU unless they told the players they would pay it. The contract was between the school and the 2 players.
Not sure why LSU fans are so butthurt by this. If any players on our roster signed contracts with other schools that clearly spells out the language of what they owe should they not fulfill their obligations, I would say the players need to pay it. Charlie Weiss has language in his contract of what has to be paid to lsu if he leaves for another head coaching job in the sec, so you're saying he shouldn't have to pay that if he became the bama oc next year?
Not sure why LSU fans are so butthurt by this. If any players on our roster signed contracts with other schools that clearly spells out the language of what they owe should they not fulfill their obligations, I would say the players need to pay it. Charlie Weiss has language in his contract of what has to be paid to lsu if he leaves for another head coaching job in the sec, so you're saying he shouldn't have to pay that if he became the bama oc next year?
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Suing players is a bad look.
Not honoring contractual obligations is a bad look.
re: Lane- on why he left-More 5 star recruits than in 6 yrs at other place
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/25/26 at 2:30 pm to Gen Patton
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Ole Miss's fault moreso than Lane's, they tried to have their cake and eat it too and dragged their feet as both the Florida AND LSU jobs came open
Had an old boss tell me one time "never argue with stupid people, they lack the intellect to know when they're wrong and lack the self awareness to just shut up, no good can come from it". Can't take his advice here. Ole Miss didn't drag their feet, asked our coach in the midst of a great season to commit to the program that was committed to him and avoid all the publicity of him looking at other jobs. When we forced him to make the decision, he tried to have his cake and eat it too. He said the same 2 days ago and acknowledged it was a mistake.
re: Lane- on why he left-More 5 star recruits than in 6 yrs at other place
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/24/26 at 9:30 am to Gen Patton
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So are you arguing this is all a lie? Do you not know how powerful the brand of LSU is internationally and the advantages they have being the only big-time school in a state that produces the most NFL players per capita? Lane literally laid it out in his presser today.
Saban constantly looks back on his LSU days fondly when he's been able to reflect publicly on his career, you really think he would shite on the LSU job when Lane came to him? Lane, Nick, and Terry have a good relationship presently as evidenced by Lane's appearance on the panel including Nick and them discussing stories about Tiger Stadium. Lane also said Pete Carroll told him the same thing, cmon man!
You just bitter both Lane AND Jon Sumrall passed on your school for better schools.
I understand the power of the LSU brand, but if you are talking about brand it is not shite on Texas, OSU, Bama, UGA and Notre Dame for that matter. LSU had an incredible run, because yes, they are the only major Division 1 school in the state. NIL levels the playing field a bit. Will a Louisiana kid go to LSU over other SEC programs if the money is all the same, probably. Are they turning down an extra $5k to go out of state, probably not.
And give it a rest on the Saban thing, do you expect him to publicly shite on LSU now that he's on ESPN and arguably the face of college football? Lane couldn't even get an interview with Bama after Saban retired. If Saban loved Kiffin that much, he would have told them to hire him. He gave Lane advice, as I'm sure he offers the same to everyone that has coached for him. Nick telling Lane he has a better chance to win championships at LSU is not the same as saying LSU is the best job in the country.
re: Lane- on why he left-More 5 star recruits than in 6 yrs at other place
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/23/26 at 5:40 pm to Gen Patton
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Did Nick Saban say that or did Lane say that's what Saban said? Big difference.
Nick has never refuted it so yes he did say that when Lane engaged him for advice as did Pete Carroll
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Is LSU actually a better job than UGA, Texas, OSU, Alabama? No it is not.
LSU literally just had the most signees for Nike endorsements of all the programs in the country and it was by a big margin, they had the first offensive lineman signee with Nike ever, AND obviously more 5-star recruit commitments here in less than a year than at that other place in 6 years
sorry bro
bro? Ok, I'm going to assume I'm getting into an argument with a 14 year old. Assuming anything Lane Kiffin says is factual is taking a huge leap of faith on your part. Nick Saban doesn't have to refute it because he knows only LSU fans would actually believe it so why even address it.
re: Lane- on why he left-More 5 star recruits than in 6 yrs at other place
Posted by rebsfan10 on 7/23/26 at 2:23 pm to Gen Patton
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Still don't believe me? Nick Saban himself told Lane and has reiterated it many times, LSU is the best job in the country
Did Nick Saban say that or did Lane say that's what Saban said? Big difference. I don't think the guy that Saban also admitted that NIL and transfer portal has changed things. Is LSU a better job than Ole Miss, yes it is. Any of our fans arguing that are just wrong. LSU has more historical success, a larger alumni base (NIL$), and more in-state talent. That said, the gap between the two is not what it was in 2010. Is LSU actually a better job than UGA, Texas, OSU, Alabama? No it is not.
All Kiffin needed to say was I think I can win easier at LSU than Ole Miss because of the in-state talent and money. Can't argue with that and it's understandable.
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