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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:55 am
He was on the rankings show last night, he said some dumb things, like Wisconsin controls their own destiny, and also said that a 1-loss Washington would be more deserving than a one-loss Miami, Georgia, or Alabama.
I liked him more as a QB.
And that's saying something.
I liked him more as a QB.
And that's saying something.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:00 am to diddlydawg7
Most think Wisconsin does control their destiny. I can't see a situation where an undefeated B1G champion gets left out.
UW ( Washington) could be considered "more deserving" simply because they would be a conference champion, whereas those others may not be.
It's not too hard of a concept to follow.
UW ( Washington) could be considered "more deserving" simply because they would be a conference champion, whereas those others may not be.
It's not too hard of a concept to follow.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 9:01 am
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:01 am to diddlydawg7
How would an undefeated Wisconsin not control their destiny?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:02 am to diddlydawg7
Assuming that one loss for both teams is to AU, then he is right. UGA and UA have terrible schedules. Your homerism wont allow you to see that.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:03 am to diddlydawg7
Wisky is undefeated with Iowa, Michigan, and a possible B1G title game left on the schedule.
If they win out, I guarantee you they will be in the playoffs.
If they win out, I guarantee you they will be in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:08 am to diddlydawg7
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like Wisconsin controls their own destiny
They do.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:09 am to diddlydawg7
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Wisconsin controls their own destiny, and also said that a 1-loss Washington would be more deserving than a one-loss Miami, Georgia, or Alabama.
None of those statements are dumb. Wisconsin does control their own destiny. If they go undefeated, they're going to make the CFB Playoff. As for Washington, I believe they're a better team than Miami and a Power 5 conference champion with one loss should get in over a one-loss Bama team that fails to win their own conference. Alabama's resume isn't strong enough to get in the CFB Playoff without winning their conference. Georgia is a little more tricky because they have a very good resume. I would say it would largely depend on the circumstances of their loss. If it's close, they should make it. If it's a blowout, they should be left out.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:09 am to diddlydawg7
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like Wisconsin controls their own destiny
Well, they're undefeated... so, he's correct.
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also said that a 1-loss Washington would be more deserving than a one-loss Miami, Georgia, or Alabama.
That would mean UW would win the PAC-12 and it seems like the others would likely lose their conference title games in that scenario. I can see the argument.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:09 am to AUCE05
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Your homerism wont allow you to see that.
In terms of difficulty:
Bama SECCG
@Notre Dame
@Auburn
Miss St
Scar
Kentucky
@Georgia Tech
App State
And then a bunch of programs with losing records.
@ 2 OOC Power 5 Opponents (with one of them top 10)
The SECCG
the tougher draw from the west.
How is this not a good schedule?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:14 am to diddlydawg7
I agree with him on Wisky. No way an undefeated B1G champ is left out.
Not so much on Udub, but also didn't hear him say that. Uw has a worse SOS than all 3 of the teams mentioned. If he meant a 1 loss conf champ UW over a 1 loss non-conf champ among those 3... maybe, but I'd think the other 3 would still have stronger resumes and likely better losses.
Not so much on Udub, but also didn't hear him say that. Uw has a worse SOS than all 3 of the teams mentioned. If he meant a 1 loss conf champ UW over a 1 loss non-conf champ among those 3... maybe, but I'd think the other 3 would still have stronger resumes and likely better losses.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:24 am to diddlydawg7
Agree on Wisconsin but his Washington comment is dumb.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:51 am to Che Boludo
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agree with him on Wisky. No way an undefeated B1G champ is left out.
It has nothing to do with being undefeated. It is the best four teams period.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:53 am to diddlydawg7
A 1 loss SEC champ, Bama or UGA, is a lock for the playoffs, to say otherwise is absurd.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:58 am to diddlydawg7
Not a fan of Greg and neither are many of his former teammates but to suggest that Georgia or Alabama wouldn't be in trouble with 1 loss is delusional especially considering how bad the SEC East is. Currently the worst division in Power 5.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 10:02 am to Jake_LaMotta
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Not a fan of Greg and neither are many of his former teammates but to suggest that Georgia or Alabama wouldn't be in trouble with 1 loss is delusional especially considering how bad the SEC East is. Currently the worst division in Power 5.
What does that have to do with anything though? Georgia playing Notre Dame, Auburn, and Alabama renders that irrelevant.
Again, it is the four best teams, period.
This is why Auburn has a better shot at the playoffs than Wisconsin. If Auburn were to beat Georgia twice and Alabama, your final rankings could look like this.
Notre Dame 11-1
Clemson 12-1
Auburn 11-2
Oklahoma 12-1
Wisconsin 13-0
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/8/17 at 10:03 am to diddlydawg7
If Wisky wins out they're getting in, no shot they leave out the undefeated conference champ from the B1G. What's going to be tricky is if UGA blows out Bama (Bama should be left out in that scenario) or if Bama barely beats UGA (which I think UGA should still make it in that scenario).
eta: I also find it odd that Clemson is ranked above OU right now to the committee. OU has a "better loss" as it stands, but I imagine if they take care of business with TCU this weekend they'll probably jump Clemson.
eta: I also find it odd that Clemson is ranked above OU right now to the committee. OU has a "better loss" as it stands, but I imagine if they take care of business with TCU this weekend they'll probably jump Clemson.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/8/17 at 10:04 am to Jake_LaMotta
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SEC East is. Currently the worst division in Power 5.
Nah. USCe beat NC St, Vandy beat Kan St, heck Tenn beat Ga Tech.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 10:06 am to JCdawg
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Georgia playing Notre Dame, Auburn, and Alabama renders that irrelevant.
you realize the season isn't over right? All of those teams can still suffer losses which is going to hurt your strength of schedule. It is like you don't know how the playoff rankings work. Georgia or Alabama may not be one of the 4 best teams in 3 weeks.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 10:07 am to BenDover
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If Wisky wins out they're getting in, no shot they leave out the undefeated conference champ from the B1G.
Jesus Christ, no it doesn't. Being undefeated doesn't mean shite. How good you are and who have you have defeated is what matters.
Think of if this way...Auburn is 6'5" and Wisconsin is 5'11", no matter how many times you line them up, Auburn is taller.
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