re: Please switch to Greg McElroy 2 Thread

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Nah. USCe beat NC St, Vandy beat Kan St, heck Tenn beat Ga Tech.

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Just about every model has the SEC East as last or next to last. It is bad. GT is terrible. Kansas State is 5-4 that is nothing to brag about. Carolina lost to Kentucky who just lost to Ole Miss. The East has only won 2 games against the West so far and the SEC West is no prize either. 4 ranked teams vs 1 ranked team. Do you need more data showing you how bad the East is?

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Absolutely I know

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Actually it seems like you don't. As an example lets say ND loses to Miami and Stanford. That is going to hurt you. Just like it negatively impacts Bama that FSU even though they were #3 when we beat them are now 3-5 and having to re-schedule La Monroe to make an attempt at bowl eligibility. Just because Georgia is #1 in the poll now it doesn't mean they are going to stay there even if they keep winninig. The CFP poll is not static like the AP poll. Things change and often at this time of year very quickly. Ask TCU, Baylor, or Penn State about that.

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It will be hard to argue and purely subjective to state that the undefeated B1G champ isn't worthy of being among the best 4 teams.

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Its not hard to argue at all. Look who they play. Notre Dame blew out Michigan State who is currently leading the Big Ten east. A three loss Iowa team almost beat Penn State and blew Ohio State out, the supposed strength of the Big Ten. Now if Wisconsin starts blowing everybody out like they did this past weekend, including a Big Ten east champ that still only has two losses, they certainly have a case for the 3rd or 4th seed at this point.

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He was on the rankings show last night, he said some dumb things, like Wisconsin controls their own destiny, and also said that a 1-loss Washington would be more deserving than a one-loss Miami, Georgia, or Alabama.

I liked him more as a QB.

And that's saying something.

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He's totally right about Wisconsin, and I agree(as do others) with his opinion that Washington would be more deserving than the other three.
FYI, only 1 SEC team will make it to the CFP...period.

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Actually it seems like you don't. As an example lets say ND loses to Miami and Stanford. That is going to hurt you. Just like it negatively impacts Bama that FSU even though they were #3 when we beat them are now 3-5 and having to re-schedule La Monroe to make an attempt at bowl eligibility. Just because Georgia is #1 in the poll not it doesn't mean they are going to stay there. The CFP poll is not static like the AP poll. Things change and often at this time of year very quickly. Ask TCU, Baylor, or Penn State about that.

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Jesus Christ dude. Are you actually reading my posts? You are talking about hypotheticals just like I was. Nobody said anything about Georgia staying number 1 or the possibility of our best win being lessened by a future loss. Either your reading comprehension isn't good, or you simply aren't reading what I'm writing. I'm simply stating now that Wisconsin is not one of the best four teams, and if Georgia and Alabama go through the season undefeated and play a close game in the SECCG, not much is going to change with regards to 1 & 2. I've said nothing to associate the CFP poll with the AP poll, I've said the exact opposite, such as Wisconsin not being in the top four even though they are undefeated.

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This is why Auburn has a better shot at the playoffs than Wisconsin. If Auburn were to beat Georgia twice and Alabama, your final rankings could look like this.

Notre Dame 11-1
Clemson 12-1
Auburn 11-2
Oklahoma 12-1

Wisconsin 13-0

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Wisconsin is not one of the best four teams

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If they are 13-0 B1G champions the committee is going to disagree with you. Really no other way to say this.

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If they are 13-0 B1G champions the committee is going to disagree with you. Really no other way to say this.

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I don't have to, they already said it. Look at the standings chief.

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Again, it has little to with conference champion or record to an extent.

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But those do matter greatly.

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If you put Wisconsin in Auburn's schedule, what would their record be?

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Impossible to say.

Again you are speaking in hypothetical, completely meaningless.

If Georgia loses to Auburn and Alabama, which is completely possible, they are out, done. Anybody in the top 5 could lose another game, nobody is disputing that. The more teams that lose ahead of Wisconsin certainly help their chances, but what the committee has clearly said by putting an undefeated Wisconsin team at 8 means exactly what it says. They think that all 7 teams in front of them are the better teams regardless of what their record is.