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re: Ole Miss basketball players kneel for the national anthem...

Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:12 pm to
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They didn’t say they were kneeling to disrespect the American flag. It is your opinion that kneeling is disrespecting the flag.


It absolutely is disrespecting the flag and what it stands for. The flag doesn't stand for the klan, it stands for our country, and the millions that died for our freedoms.
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Says everything about the kind of person you are when you didn't complain about a radical group trumping up hate and tension and marching on campus....



It’s possible to disagree with both.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:14 pm to
Where was that thread about how great Mississippi is??
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5659 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:15 pm to
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It absolutely is disrespecting the flag and what it stands for. The flag doesn't stand for the klan, it stands for our country, and the millions that died for our freedoms.




It is absolutely thier right to protest. It is also absolutely disrespectful to the men and women who have died for this country to give them those freedoms.

People can like it or not. Agree with it or not.
When you disrespect the anthem by kneeling people view that as disrespect to the military people who fight for our freedoms.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2364 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:19 pm to
Just because I’ve seen Clemson, Bama, and Arkansas fans digging on OM for this...

MRW I realize South Carolina, Alabama, and Arkansas ALL have more certified hate groups than Mississippi. Yeah. Source: SPLC

Cue “Something something liberal snowflake something something blah blah mouth breather mentality.” Thanks for playing. Good night.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13020 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:26 pm to
Is he spitting a wad of jizz out his moufs in that second pic?

Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:36 pm to
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MRW I realize South Carolina, Alabama, and Arkansas ALL have more certified hate groups than Mississippi. Yeah. Source: SPLC


Arkansas 14
Mississippi 13

Go frick yourself... You're bragging about "beating" us by 1 on one measure? You lose per capita FYI

What a stupid, ignorant response
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2364 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:52 pm to
I was simply pointing out the facts which is that those states all have more than Mississippi. I know that’s not convenient for you..
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:00 pm to
How else was ole miss suppose to get any attention. This is basically become a joke...
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:03 pm to
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I was simply pointing out the facts which is that those states all have more than Mississippi. I know that’s not convenient for you..



So its really not that bad in Mississippi then? Just like I lived in Harrison and Tom Robb and the Klan never did anything. People make it a bigger deal than what it is. They would have been better off ignoring it since the rally on school was against it anyways.
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:12 pm to
Last chance... your proposed defense of Mississippi is based on your state's rankings compared to other states?

You're sure you want to do this? I've got quite a list, and let's just say you don't quite measure up
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:16 pm to
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cas4t


Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:19 pm to
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While you don't agree with them doing that(and obviously that's perfectly fine)...it's completely their right to be able to do so.



Isnt it their right to on their own time? And not the schools time?
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6891 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:43 pm to
This pretty well sums it all up. To be completely frank, I wish our guys hadn't knelt today, but I'm a little surprised this thread has created so much interest. If this had been at another school, I couldn't have cared less.

quote:

quote:
I was simply pointing out the facts which is that those states all have more than Mississippi. I know that’s not convenient for you..


So its really not that bad in Mississippi then? Just like I lived in Harrison and Tom Robb and the Klan never did anything. People make it a bigger deal than what it is. They would have been better off ignoring it since the rally on school was against it anyways.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2405 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:08 pm to
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I do find it interesting people get more fired up about players peacefully protesting than them beating the shite out of their girlfriends.
All the players need to do is beat the shite out of their girlfriends while the national anthem is playing before one of their games and you'll see plenty of people getting fired up about it.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5659 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:19 pm to
Look at the ratings for the NFL drop after the kneeling started.
At alarming rates rating were dropping.
Goes to show whether people like it or not most Americans will tune you out and not watch if they deem it disrespectful.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:28 pm to
Geaux to hell Ole Miss
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:48 pm to
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MRW I realize South Carolina, Alabama, and Arkansas ALL have more certified hate groups than Mississippi. Yeah. Source: SPLC


None of those states have a flagship university that has draped itself in racist to semi-racist "Old South" imagery forever, though. Which is why I can't think of a Klan rally in Fayetteville or at the University of Arkansas in my memory.

We used to play Dixie, too. But stopped in 1969, like most other southern schools. I've heard the "Ole Miss" band play that in the 2010s. I don't believe I have seen a Confederate flag at an Arkansas tailgate, ever, while they are always present in the Grove in some form or fashion.

It's good that the school is trying to even out its image, but there are solid reasons why they show up at your campus and not ours. It isn't a coincidence.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20378 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:10 pm to
I have no dog in this fight. I agree with the majority that the racists marching are despicable assholes.

However, I would point this out:
quote:

They didn’t say they were kneeling to disrespect the American flag. It is your opinion that kneeling is disrespecting the flag. That isn’t their belief. Your interpretation is not by default the correct interpretation. It’s like telling someone else what he created isn’t art.
I'm sorry, but you need to have some sort of awareness.
You may not intend something to be taken a certain way, but if you do it publicly, you need to understand that the public will view it and make interpretations.

Example: I love America. I may be so proud of that, that I want the American flag on everything in my house. Yay, I'm a proud patriot.
But if I have the American flag printed on every sheet of toilet paper and try to hand out rolls, the vast majority will look, think "you're wiping your arse with the American flag", and think I'm an unpatriotic jackass.

Same thing applies to kneeling during the Anthem. Your intent is your own, but it's a public action and others will judge. And the first thing they think of will be "they are protesting America".

Football players also kneel AFTER the game, and that is viewed entirely differently from those kneeling during the anthem. And I think that's pretty much praised across the board, instead of being divisive.
Had the Ole Miss players knelt at center court immediately after the game, it would have drawn a lot of attention, and no blowback at all, misunderstood or not.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:15 pm to
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When you disrespect the anthem by kneeling people view that as disrespect to the military people who fight for our freedoms.

why tho

I'm sure these guys meant no disrespect to your average joe in the military who did a few tours in Afghanistan.

They just picked the national anthem because it's a very public demonstration and they'd get more eyes on their cause.

If you're offended by this you're choosing to be offended. You don't have to choose to be offended.
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