re: Ok, let us say Texas does try and do things in the SEC

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What happens when Texas does not get their way.

In the Big 12 they could hold most of the conference hostage financially, saying if they do not have their way they will leave (which maybe exactly what they are doing now.)

You think they would be dumb enough to try that in the SEC?

Move the SEC offices or we will leave
Move the SECCG or we will leave

I hope if Texas does join they are smarter than that, but if Texas AM is right, Texas is not.

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Texas won't be able to hold the SEC hostage, like they do the Big XII. But, adding them will completely change the dynamic in the league. Ironically, one thing that it will do is end A&M's go along, get along approach since joining the league. How? In little ways, that will only be apparent over time.

Start with Sankey. He welched on Slive's committment that A&M would be the only Texas school in the SEC, and knowing how A&M would react, he kept A&M out of the loop on this deal. A&M won't forget. Commissioners have to make tough choices that alienate the members, and Sankey has made an enemy that will look for opportunities to put him on the spot and undermine his position.

Then there are things like championship game locations. Texas isn't going to waltz in and tell the SEC that we're going to play the football championship at JerryWorld every other year. But, when the topic of championship games comes up--maybe starting with something lower key, like baseball or basketball, you can bet that Texas, OU, and A&M (ironically enough) will start chipping away at the coalitions that keep these games in their current locations. You don't come in an loudly make demands--you just start picking them off one at a time.

In an every man for himself world, you'll see some strange coalitions on these issues. No more collegiality.

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All the bluebloods in college football try to throw their weight around, if you think BAMA and Ohio State don't do some of things that Texas and OU do, then you are sadly mistaken. The only reason people don't gripe as much about BAMA is they are willing to share an equal piece of the pie. They are in a position that they can share it equally because they are in a conference with many other schools that pull their own weight. They can cuck teams like Ole Miss, Mizzou, etc and get away with murder without any griping because they give you an equal slice of pie..If they didn't share that equal slice, the Aggies would be all over this board griping about Big Bad BAMA like they do about Texas...

Texas and OU never had the luxury of being in a conference with many other schools that could pull there own weight until now if they join the SEC...So all the handwringing seems stupid..

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What about the LHN? Texas will benefit that in the new conference and open up new footprints and that will make it even better. So you want that to happen here or do we force Texas to drop the LHN? If Texas refuse then what?

Dude stfu lhn is gone. Learn sec contracts.

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If Texas is so influential, why did ESPN recently turn down a chance to extend the Big 12 deal?

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Because ESPN was in in the deal for Texas/OU to leave. ESPN helped set a pretext for the move by refusing to deal with the Big 12.

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Well they are far more influential with ESPN than anyone else in CFB


This is where you lose all credibility. The LHN deal was 10 years ago and has hemorrhaged money from day one. ESPN just outbid CBS by dropping $3 Billion over 10 yrs for the SEC. They would chew off their left arm to get out of the remaining 10 years of the LHN deal.

If Texas is so influential, why did ESPN recently turn down a chance to extend the Big 12 deal?

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The LHN was a mistake for both Texas and ESPN, both have been trying to get out of it for years. Texas (and ESPN) wanted to be in a higher profile Conference since they had destroyed the B12. ESPN is the power really pushing this on the SEC and if ESPN says jump the SEC jumps.

I freaking despise Texas but they are the biggest brand in CFB and that's after they have sucked arse in a crap conference. What do you think happens when they get in the SEC and have ANY success? You don't understand the relationship Texas has with the media and how deeply embedded they are.

Underestimate the Orange Menace at your peril. The best move is always to avoid partnering with them unless you have no choice.

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Texas won't be able to hold the SEC hostage, like they do the Big XII. But, adding them will completely change the dynamic in the league. Ironically, one thing that it will do is end A&M's go along, get along approach since joining the league. How? In little ways, that will only be apparent over time. Start with Sankey. He welched on Slive's committment that A&M would be the only Texas school in the SEC, and knowing how A&M would react, he kept A&M out of the loop on this deal. A&M won't forget. Commissioners have to make tough choices that alienate the members, and Sankey has made an enemy that will look for opportunities to put him on the spot and undermine his position. Then there are things like championship game locations. Texas isn't going to waltz in and tell the SEC that we're going to play the football championship at JerryWorld every other year. But, when the topic of championship games comes up--maybe starting with something lower key, like baseball or basketball, you can bet that Texas, OU, and A&M (ironically enough) will start chipping away at the coalitions that keep these games in their current locations. You don't come in an loudly make demands--you just start picking them off one at a time. In an every man for himself world, you'll see some strange coalitions on these issues. No more collegiality.

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Listen to the man. This is going to happen. One point I want to make is with addition the states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri the SEC is not the old SEC anymore it is something different. The population of the states of the old SEC is 64.5 million and the population of the new states is 39.3 million. The increase is 61%. That is a huge increase. This more like a merger that just add a few schools. The old schools have to make room for the new schools. It just makes sense.

The first two or three Big XII title games were in St. Louis.

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Move the SECCG

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Should rotate every year between Atlanta and New Orleans.

What are we even talking about here? What kind of things is Texas going to be lobbying for that is going to screw over the SEC? If they become relevant again sure they will be annoying but that goes for most teams. The only reason I oppose the move is because i like college football the way it is and it would likely not benefit LSU in any way. It could only hurt us overall in recruiting IMO.