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re: Ok, let us say Texas does try and do things in the SEC
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:21 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:21 pm to cokebottleag
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That’s not how it works.
Texas works by getting Texas alums or puppets into positions of power and then working to benefit just Texas.
They didn’t buy off the NCAA infractions committee, they leveraged connections to get an alum installed as head of the committee, then went to work on rivals.
They didn’t just throw their weight around the B12, they installed their own sycophants as the commissioner and positions of power, and then played stupid when the conference organization bent the field to their benefit.
So I realize that there’s a ton of baggage between Texas and aTm, but I think you guys need to take a step back and think about why they had all of that leverage over you.
The SWC consisted of 8 Texas schools plus Arkansas. When Arkansas left, the entire conference was made up of Texas schools. When the Big 12 was formed, 4 of the schools (a third of the conference) were in Texas. Currently, 4 of the conference’s 10 schools are in Texas.
So for 100 years, Texas has been in conferences made up of anywhere from 33% to 100% Texas schools. For most of that time, they have been the most successful of those Texas programs, as well as the most successful overall in those conferences.
If/when they join the SEC, this dynamic completely changes. Texas schools would account for 2/16 programs. They can’t strong arm the conference for votes by pulling strings in the state legislature. You guys are remembering their 100+ year history of having control of their conferences, but you’re forgetting how control over their state enabled that.
On top of that, whatever Texas was to the SWC and Big 12, the 8 charter members are to the SEC. And Texas is coming into a league that has won 11 of the last 15 national football championships, as a mediocre program.
They very well may expect the conference to bow down to them. But that should just make it more enjoyable for Aggies when the conference doesn’t bend to their will. They just don’t have the same leverage here that they had in the SWC and Big 12.
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:41 pm to FayetteNAM
Fans? Their athletic department. They have connections everywhere that matters. They know exactly what to do to get everything they want. They use outside forces to change conference matters in their favor. They get what they want from the outside, not the inside. In two or three years, the SEC offices will be in Dallas. The SEC Championship Game will permanently be in Jerry World. And Austin laughs their @$$es off. The SEC schools are delusional.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:47 pm to TideFaninFl
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:46 pm to BoomerSooner2578
Man, the ags that are openly calling for defiance and undermining of the conference now for being upset...
I understand upset. Been upset in my life more than a few times. But not since I was over about 4 or 5 have I said "OK, I didn't get my way so I will mess it up on purpose and that will show you".
Makes it hard to support you and may make some regret they ever wanted you in their club to begin with.
I understand upset. Been upset in my life more than a few times. But not since I was over about 4 or 5 have I said "OK, I didn't get my way so I will mess it up on purpose and that will show you".
Makes it hard to support you and may make some regret they ever wanted you in their club to begin with.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:48 pm to iamjethro
If it was true this was kept from us it isn’t about losing a vote, it’s about being a Junior member when the SEC is not supposed to have those.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:56 pm to iamjethro
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Man, the ags that are openly calling for defiance and undermining of the conference now for being upset...
I understand upset. Been upset in my life more than a few times. But not since I was over about 4 or 5 have I said "OK, I didn't get my way so I will mess it up on purpose and that will show you".
Makes it hard to support you and may make some regret they ever wanted you in their club to begin with.
Let's just ignore the fact that Texas just backstabbed and destroyed an entire conference on their way out the door to join the SEC and folks thinking it can't/won't happen here. Excuse us for not being pleased about having to put up with their B.S.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:04 pm to TideFaninFl
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Georgia Tech did(1960's), and wandered in the wilderness for decades, and begged the SEC to let them back in the 1980's (for the record Alabama said yes)
Georgia said No, as did 4 other schools. That's why the Gnats went to the ACC.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:05 pm to TideFaninFl
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Ok, let us say Texas does try and do things in the SEC
We remind them that they came to us, hat in hand, begging for a spot at the table and that they're replaceable
In case no one noticed, the SEC has been doing jsut fine without them
They rot and sink further into obscurity without us
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:27 pm to Locoguan0
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ESPN and the SEC will make leaving so expensive that Texas would have to sell half of their campus to afford it...
That is not how the SEC works. Any team, at anytime, can leave without penalty. That will never change
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:31 pm to TideFaninFl
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What happens when Texas does not get their way.
In the Big 12 they could hold most of the conference hostage financially, saying if they do not have their way they will leave (which maybe exactly what they are doing now.)
You think they would be dumb enough to try that in the SEC?
Move the SEC offices or we will leave
Move the SECCG or we will leave
I hope if Texas does join they are smarter than that, but if Texas AM is right, Texas is not.
Texas trying to do things is the least of the worry right now.
I guess people aren't understanding that they are about to 100% change college football forever and these are just the first steps. This isn't just about Texas coming to the SEC.
ESPN is using their large influence from the TV contracts to get it done. They just told the Big12 to frick off a few months ago because they have no plans of keeping that conference going.
It's not going to be college football anymore. No more G5 games, it's going to become a shitty arse NFL like product.
Don't be surprised when some current SEC teams start getting pushed out. Some towards the bottom likely won't make the cut.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:33 pm to TideFaninFl
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That is not how the SEC works. Any team, at anytime, can leave without penalty. That will never change
ESPN runs the show now.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:34 pm to cokebottleag
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That’s not how it works.
Texas works by getting Texas alums or puppets into positions of power and then working to benefit just Texas.
They didn’t buy off the NCAA infractions committee, they leveraged connections to get an alum installed as head of the committee, then went to work on rivals.
They didn’t just throw their weight around the B12, they installed their own sycophants as the commissioner and positions of power, and then played stupid when the conference organization bent the field to their benefit.
All we've ever heard from you Aggie fans is how much money aTm has and how rich and powerful your boosters are. Are you now saying all that was lies and Texas really was what you wished aTm was?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:34 pm to TouchDownSEC
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the SEC offices will be in Dallas
Then they will be an office without a conference
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The SEC Championship Game will permanently be in Jerry World.
They may play there once in a while, but then it would rotate to other SEC states (Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, etc.)
This move may actually destroy all hope for Texas athletics.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:37 pm to 3down10
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ESPN runs the show now.
I doubt that, if the teams decide to leave, nothing ESPN can do about it, the SEC teams did not sign a GOR.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:49 pm to TideFaninFl
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I doubt that, if the teams decide to leave, nothing ESPN can do about it, the SEC teams did not sign a GOR.
We are only seeing the tip of the changes that are coming.
These moves do not help the SEC directly, it's part of something bigger. SoS doesn't matter, so adding strength doesn't help your conference. Look at Oklahoma and Clemson for examples.
So it's all about the money, and who provides the money? ESPN. Oklahoma and Texas aren't coming without big money backing them and ESPN saying so.
All the schools care about now is money, and they will do whatever the money tells them.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:54 pm to TideFaninFl
ESPN will take care of it for the sips. You wait and watch. And I will be laughing in the corner at the incessant stupidity of Snakey
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:56 pm to iamjethro
quote:Your point? A&M will take care of itself. Screw the rest of this "conference". My new signature
Makes it hard to support you and may make some regret they ever wanted you in their club to begin with.
Frick you.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:57 pm to 3down10
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Don't be surprised when some current SEC teams start getting pushed out. Some towards the bottom likely won't make the cut.
Exactly, some of these programs won't know what hit them when it happens.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:59 pm to CharlotteSooner
CharlotteSooner, what are we your realistic hopes for our super conference?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:01 am to TideFaninFl
Do teams in SEC sign away there tv rights and other similar stuff to the league? Or have some kind of buyout to leave?
If not i can easily see Texas threatening to pull out or drop rumors of looking elsewhere after 2 or 3 years unless they get their way on certain issues. It may be more likely if A&M leaves as without Texas the SEC would then no longer be in the state of Texas, so be careful what you wish for with Aggies.
They may play it more like Saban when he always used to be linked to openings including Texas to use as part of renegotiation tactics versus out right threats to leave. They and Ok can rotate around and be ok with money especially Texas.
But again this threat depends on how hard it is to get out of SEC. They can still cause issues other ways including creating division which will be easier with bigger conference and possibly more schools being added. They are not joining like A&M and other recent schools. They have money, clout, media attention, and a back door way of doing things that is going to have some schools taking sides with them. They will definitely play on other schools mistrust of Alabama.
Regardless of current SEC schools ability to break away I still think Texas should have to have buyout and sign rights away for a set time just because of all their crap in past.
If not i can easily see Texas threatening to pull out or drop rumors of looking elsewhere after 2 or 3 years unless they get their way on certain issues. It may be more likely if A&M leaves as without Texas the SEC would then no longer be in the state of Texas, so be careful what you wish for with Aggies.
They may play it more like Saban when he always used to be linked to openings including Texas to use as part of renegotiation tactics versus out right threats to leave. They and Ok can rotate around and be ok with money especially Texas.
But again this threat depends on how hard it is to get out of SEC. They can still cause issues other ways including creating division which will be easier with bigger conference and possibly more schools being added. They are not joining like A&M and other recent schools. They have money, clout, media attention, and a back door way of doing things that is going to have some schools taking sides with them. They will definitely play on other schools mistrust of Alabama.
Regardless of current SEC schools ability to break away I still think Texas should have to have buyout and sign rights away for a set time just because of all their crap in past.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 12:14 am
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