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re: Must read this article on the destruction of college football!
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:56 pm to Bamafig
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:56 pm to Bamafig
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It’s cute that people think these players are actually being paid for their NIL. Ask yourself this, EVERY athlete at major programs is getting paid. How many are you seeing in ads or on TV commercials or doing personal appearances? Yeah, exactly.
UGA has a couple doing a podcast with advertisers. The terms of that deal are a matter between them and their business partners. It is not just about advertisements...you can call your school's collective right now and have some players show up at your kids birthday party or bar mitzvah. No one can tell you how much you pay them, that's a private matter as it should be.
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:59 pm to Gunga Din
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It most closely resembles a "Bachelor Auction" where the Bachelor gets to keep the money. And right now it looks like you can basically auction yourself off once a year
I can auction myself off every couple of weeks. And keep the money. I am not as in demand, though, as a 5 star QB...but I could indeed auction myself to the highest bidder as often as I saw fit and take my chances. Why a student athlete should be any different is beyond me, absent of a regulatory body with some authority to regulate within the confines of established law.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:01 pm to ALhunter
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If you want to watch old school college athletics where student athletes are playing, go watch a Sewanee game.
There is that angle....and it is readily available and fun to watch.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:41 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:I mean the hilarious thing is once schools can directly pay players, Harvard could become a national power again if it wanted to... would just need to drop academic standards but they have a $50 billion endowment.
There is that angle....and it is readily available and fun to watch.
Harvard actually has 12 national titles... granted the last one was before the great depression.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:53 pm to AwgustaDawg
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It’s cute that people think these players are actually being paid for their NIL. Ask yourself this, EVERY athlete at major programs is getting paid. How many are you seeing in ads or on TV commercials or doing personal appearances? Yeah, exactly.
Bijan Robinson - Bijan Mustardson.
Keondre Coburn - Big City Wings
DeMarvion Overshown - Wrangler & Covert Auto Group
Quinn Ewers - Panini America
Madisen Skinner - Wrangler
James Worthy - American Airlines
Logan Eggleston - Seven 1 Sports & Entertainment
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:55 pm to Ptins944
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James Worthy - American Airlines
and yet, our basketball team still sucks
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:00 pm to BigBro
CFB is already dead. The only question left is how long does it have in hospice care before they pull the plug.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:10 pm to llfshoals
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It’s not just us
It was never just "you". You just didn't really give a shite until it happened to the program you cheer for.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:14 pm to JetDawg
I don't watch pro football.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:51 pm to Loup
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Allowing student athletes to make money with their name and such is right.
There's always that one guy who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about or even what is at issue.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:09 pm to JetDawg
That's one of the most well written articles I have seen in a while, on any subject.
Enjoy your upvote.
Enjoy your upvote.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:48 pm to Decker
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The article says Arizona not Alabama. Kind of sad to lie about this
Doesn’t matter Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Auburn all historic schools with good to great football history cannot play the NIL game every season like a lot of other schools can. Outside of some instate kids the idea of being loyal to a university is dead. It will hit every school at some point in time unless there is some kind of equity rules put into place. CFB is going to consume itself.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:41 pm to Loup
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If Joe Blow who owns a car dealership wants to pay a student athlete to be in a couple of advertisements then idk how you could say that's wrong.
I don't have an issue with the above scenario. Always thought they should have a stipend or be allowed to work for a private entity doing promos or ads. But paying these kids hundreds of thousands of dollars with very few strings attached is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:47 pm to JetDawg
Ah yes, an opinion piece by a guy who made his money and his name gambling on college football (and other sports) bemoaning the effects of the actual players gaining revenue.
Ok
Ok
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:17 pm to JetDawg
College Football needs to die in its current form.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:35 pm to Gunga Din
quote:Perversely, I’d argue that these low-IQ scholarship athletes actually increase the academic competitiveness of a university. They do this by increasing interest and engagement from HS students, increasing the admissions pool for a limited number of spots, and thereby elevating the academic qualification bar for admission of the general student body.
But is it right to allow students into said school who don't meet the schools academic requirements.
Also, alumni donations increase, campus engagement increases, and in many cases, the university and college town ecosystem benefits across the board socioeconomically. It’s hard to argue that, to a point that most schools have not yet reached, it’s inarguably a good thing.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:37 pm to JetDawg
Meh. We not talking about 53 highly skilled professional football players per school. Out of 85 man scholarship per team, I’m guessing less than 10 will warrant money above 500,000 per year. So let’s say 5-10 million for your stars. The other 70-75 2-4 stars may warrant 20k to 100k pay. Let’s say 40k average for these guys. So let’s round and say $3-4 mil for the rest of team. So, 15-20 mil payrolls for the elite teams to be competitive.
Alabama , Texas, OSU, etc make over 200mil or more. Seems the fat cats will take a 10% pay cut
What’s wrong with players getting what the market will bear? Nothing
But the article mentioned the fans and that’s who will pay in higher ticket prices, beer prices etc.
Yes, at some point The powers to be will come together and form an NFL lite conference with rules etc.
Alabama , Texas, OSU, etc make over 200mil or more. Seems the fat cats will take a 10% pay cut
What’s wrong with players getting what the market will bear? Nothing
But the article mentioned the fans and that’s who will pay in higher ticket prices, beer prices etc.
Yes, at some point The powers to be will come together and form an NFL lite conference with rules etc.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 12:19 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:No, actually I did. This just put a big spotlight on what’s been going on that I’ve been bitching about for a while.
It was never just "you". You just didn't really give a shite until it happened to the program you cheer for.
If Harbaugh goes to the NFL, teams will try to pillage them because they just watched Ohio State drop 13m plus in the portal to try and buy a better team than Michigan.
It was always an arms race, better facilities, higher paid coaches, recruiting, etc. You watch, one of these players is going to go public with an auction for their commitment, wouldn’t be a bit shocked if that happens the next time the portal opens for everyone.
I’m all for these kids getting a piece of a very large pie that is college football. But we need to set some limits on the portal. Sit a year, no more than one transfer, lose a year of eligibility. Something.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 12:41 am to Loup
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and such
So deep. Pray tell, what is your major?
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 12:42 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:27 am to llfshoals
Good article. Regardless of one’s stance on NIL (which is a righteous concept being implemented in greed stricken and disasterous ways), it really is the combination of NIL and a wide open portal that is almost immediately causing this.
It’s ok, for me anyway. I don’t hafta watch and I got to enjoy about 60 years of being a fan. Not sure it made me a better person ever, but I did enjoy it….maybe too much. I certainly don’t hafta watch games and there are plenty of real issues to start paying attention to. Hunger, generational poverty, and hurting people everywhere….none of which need to fit into anyone’s particular political or religious viewpoint to be identified as just needing help.
Love is a verb.
It’s ok, for me anyway. I don’t hafta watch and I got to enjoy about 60 years of being a fan. Not sure it made me a better person ever, but I did enjoy it….maybe too much. I certainly don’t hafta watch games and there are plenty of real issues to start paying attention to. Hunger, generational poverty, and hurting people everywhere….none of which need to fit into anyone’s particular political or religious viewpoint to be identified as just needing help.
Love is a verb.
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