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re: I still have no idea what LSU has actually done wrong
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:01 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:01 pm to AlaTiger
There is a line drawn on pro-player contracts. If we pass the line it opens a whole new can of worms for pro-players back to college.
Has nothing to do with the 5 for 5 rule or the judge ruling those who used up 4 years of eligibility can come back this year for a 5th year.
Has nothing to do with the 5 for 5 rule or the judge ruling those who used up 4 years of eligibility can come back this year for a 5th year.
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't believe Harris ever even practiced, Wright practiced but didn't appear in any games.
Everyone is paid. Meh. Not like we haven't had pros in the conference before.
“Everyone is paid” is a pretty irrelevant dodge. Whether Harris practiced or Wright played an exhibition doesn’t change the fact that they signed professional contracts and were paid as professionals.
And “we’ve had pros before” is just hand-waving away the actual issue.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:03 pm to makersmark1
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If only we had a flowchart documenting all the various parties and their involvement.
This site has never really had anyone with alpha energy to develop a really in depth flow chart describing all of the intricate details of things like this.
I think I saw one about 15-16 years ago!
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:03 pm to AlaTiger
Apparently neither does Greg Sankey.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It's using hometown judges to circumvent eligibility rules.
The same in both cases, just different causes.
Agreed . . .my point is though that the circumstances of the Chambliss injunction have zero relevance to the current legal back and forth.
It should not be cited as some sort of justification or even relevant datapoint regarding Lane and LSU coaching pro players on ginning up legal challenges that would invalidate existing NCAA and SEC conference rules.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:06 pm to Wellborn
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The SEC then adopted its own rule prohibiting schools from rostering players who had professionalized.
You’re forgetting the part where they aren’t able to answer what “professionalized” means.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Except pro players have literally played in this conference before and the conference did nothing about it.
There was not a rule expressly prohibiting it at the time. It was rectified quickly when a judge ruled the player ineligible because he had signed a pro contract. Alabama nor the player continued to fight, they accepted the ruling.
The SEC thought the question of pros playing in the SEC was answered because there was legal precedent.
They had overlooked that the Napoleonic system of law practiced in Louisiana does not put much weight on previous case precedent like the English common law system practiced everywhere else.
They did not believe there was any ambiguity until Kiffin and LSU pushed the matter by announcing NFL players would be coming to LSU when/if they were cut by their current NFL team.
They quickly and unanimously enacted a rule expressly prohibiting it. An East Baton Rouge judge who is up for reelection this November blocked them from enforcing their rule. Again, a rule unanimously passed by all 16 SEC members.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:09 pm to vidtiger23
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You’re forgetting the part where they aren’t able to answer what “professionalized” means.
I have posted the SEC’s official written answer in this thread twice already.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:09 pm to Wellborn
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And “we’ve had pros before” is just hand-waving away the actual issue.
What is the actual issue?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:12 pm to Windy City
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It's using hometown judges to circumvent eligibility rules.
I can’t even imagine trying to argue local elected judges are equivalent to appointed federal judges.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:12 pm to AlaTiger
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I still have no idea what LSU has actually done wrong
This is why the SEC needs to drop the hammer.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:13 pm to JETigER
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it said NFL mini camp is not a professional.
it said NFL training camp is a professional
This is where Sankey just looks like an idiot and will lose in any jurisdiction. The distinction is too arbitrary.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:13 pm to mckibaj
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I saw one about 15-16 years ago!
This site is not as elegant as it once was.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:14 pm to GhostofAlfredBlue
quote:Of course LSU didn’t cause the TRO. The issue is what LSU chose to do after the TRO, which was continue pursuing players whose eligibility was already barred under the SEC’s rules.
Do you realize LSU had nothing to do with the TRO? or are you just listening to the TV?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:17 pm to captdalton
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There was not a rule expressly prohibiting it at the time. It was rectified quickly when a judge ruled the player ineligible because he had signed a pro contract. Alabama nor the player continued to fight, they accepted the ruling.
Sure, because they had no legal standing to continue.
The ruling forced them to stop, it wasn't some righteous act by Alabama, the player, or the conference.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:18 pm to Gings5
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:19 pm to SEC Doctor
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it said NFL mini camp is not a professional.
it said NFL training camp is a professional
This is where Sankey just looks like an idiot and will lose in any jurisdiction. The distinction is too arbitrary.
I really hope someone pushes this exact point in court. The SEC has allowed Texas, south Carolina and possibly other teams to roster and play players who have signed contracts and been paid to participate in mini camps, and they are ok with that. But rostering a kid who participated in training camp is suddenly grounds for expulsion...
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:20 pm to Wellborn
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The issue is what LSU chose to do after the TRO, which was continue pursuing players whose eligibility was already barred under the SEC’s rules.
Pursuing players doesn't break the SEC rule, rostering them does. That hasn't happened yet.
If LSU doesn't roster the players, this lawsuit is completely pointless.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:27 pm to Wellborn
That is just wrong. You either made that up or don’t understand what happened.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:27 pm to makersmark1
Who would read it
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