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For a long time, the private schools were competitive. The public schools were not so much larger and richer (in terms of athletic resources). The 60's through the 80's were when the public schools pulled away. Imagine if the SEC had been about 50% small private schools like Tulane or the Big 10 had half schools like Northwestern. It worked back when Rice could hang in a bowl game against Alabama. Now that seems impossible.

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Agreed. I came up watching SWC teams in the 80s and early 90s. I can't tell just how bad the scene was for SWC and really all regional teams back then.

Outside of Arky, A&M, and the John Jenkins pirate brigade at Houston, it seemed like no school really cared about football at all.


I remember Houston being ranked 12th to start the season in 1991 and going to Miami and getting completely thrashed 40-10. They would get crushed by Illinois the next week 51-10.

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Sort of, it’s different in the water and you
Have to match decadence with your team. But yeah it’s similar in principal

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I rowed in quads and eights. There is a precision that has to be maintained and if not it kills your pace. The entry and exit of the oars, the adjustment of of the oars during your sweep, and the unity of the team in all that motion is really hard to perfect. The collegiate teams that can attract the strongest rowers and coach them into that level are amazing.

It is a good thing for Tua that this sort of thing only happened 100 more times over the next five years.

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Didn't they also play in Texas Stadium a bunch at the time? Damn, you get that, stud players, and money, that's a hard combo to beat

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Having grown up with it all and watching the aftermath, Texas Governor Bill Clements is still my favorite character.

He comes in to quietly clean it all up and is told the program "has a payroll to meet" so Clements then argues it would be dishonorable to walk back such contractual obligations.

He then stiff arms the University President telling home to focus on running the University business. "Calm down and don't be so self-righteous."

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Has moved up but I believe Owens(Vandy) is ranked higher in the SEC.

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This is not correct. McCombs is firmly in the Top 10 undergraduate business schools along with Indiana Kelley and a few others like UNC.

Owens is a fine undergraduate institution but McCombs has been a leader in many sub disciplines like accounting for decades

KC Concepcion is a first rounder per most every mock draft.

I thought we would have two with Cashius Howell but his T-Rex baby arms supposedly knocked him into the second round. .

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The term "Public Ivy gets thrown around a lot, but it was actually created by a guy from Yale in 1985 who wrote a book called: Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities.

He named Michigan, Cal, Texas, UVA, UNC, William & Mary, Miami (Ohio) and Vermont as the 8 public universities where someone could get an Ivy League-level education.

Now, people ignore that origin, and there are 20+ schools claiming to be a Public Ivy.

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It is a dumb, undefinable term up there with "Blue Blood."

It had several revisions including the Greene's guide in 2001 that expanded out the group to 30 schools including:

Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
Rutgers University (New Brunswick, New Jersey)
State University of New York at Binghamton
University of Connecticut (Storrs)
College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
University of Delaware (Newark)
University of Maryland, College Park
University of Virginia (Charlottesville)
University of Arizona (Tucson)
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of California, Santa Barbara
University of Colorado Boulder
University of Washington (Seattle)
Indiana University Bloomington
Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
Michigan State University (East Lansing)
Ohio State University (Columbus)
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
University of Iowa (Iowa City)
University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
University of Wisconsin–Madison
University of Florida (Gainesville)
University of Georgia (Athens)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of Texas at Austin

We are waiting to see if first half South Carolina Marcel Reed or second half South Carolina Marcel Reed is the starter.

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Get a grip. They had to add USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington to keep pace with the SEC.

That is brutal.

So they’ve won a few championships when the NIL and transfer rules are in a state of flux. Who cares.

When things settle down, all will go back to normal. And they’ll still be stuck with all the schools on the left coast.

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Missouri is a Midwest state. Most of your borders are shared with Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas.

The St. Louis Cardinals are rivals with the Chicago Cubs.

Mizzou's rivals are Kansas and Illinois.

Mizzou probably should have gone to the Big 10 with Nebraska years ago.

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Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Kansas have all won NCs in the modern era.

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What is the modern era?

IU won a title in 87 . . . is that modern?