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Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:06 pm to ChiGator
GT is 14 games over .500 against Florida.
Georgia is 10 games over .500 against Florida.
FSU is 10 games under. 500 against Florida.
Georgia is 10 games over .500 against Florida.
FSU is 10 games under. 500 against Florida.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:10 pm to meansonny
Cool stats from the 60’s
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:15 pm to GoldenDawg
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Spurrier was a great coach. Smart is better. Smart would do MUCH better at South Carolina than Spurrier because Smart can recruit.
Richt was winning at or near 10 games a season at Georgia, far superior than what spurrier walked into.
Spurrier took usc to another level as smart has done at Georgia but with less talent and without the nattys.
Both are good coaches but to believe smart would excel at usc is a pipe dream.
Just enjoy what is going on while it lasts. No need to disparage others.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:22 pm to Clark14
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Both are good coaches but to believe smart would excel at usc is a pipe dream.
Just enjoy what is going on while it lasts. No need to disparage others.
It's not disparaging Spurrier to say Smart is the better coach. And what doomed Spurrier at South Carolina is what ultimately doomed him at Florida. He didn't like recruiting.
Kirby doesn't have that problem. No way Kirby would have failed at South Carolina the way Spurrier did. The fact that Spurrier was even at South Carolina speaks to Spurrier's main problem - arrogance which produced laziness on the recruiting trail. The same arrogance that had him quit mid-season at South Carolina.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:41 pm to GoldenDawg
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Has Kirby Smart passed Spurrier?
when Kirby starts making zingers like Spurrier did, maybe... but there will only ever be ONE STEVE SPURRIER.
Spurrier lifetime vs UGA all positions
1963-66 QB Florida 2-2
1978 QB Coach Florida 0-1
1979 QB Coach Georgia Tech 0-1
1990-2001 Head Coach Florida 11-1
2005-2012 Head Coach South Carolina – 4-4
Lifetime 17-9
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:44 pm to GoldenDawg
Kirby has passed spurrier and soon will be past spurrier and urban combined
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:45 pm to ChiGator
Man, those 90’s FSU-UF games were unreal. You guys cost us at least 2 additional NCs.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:07 am to finchmeister08
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when Kirby starts making zingers like Spurrier did, maybe... there will only ever be ONE STEVE SPURRIER.
Spurrier v. Richt = 6-6, including the 52-20 beatdown that caused Spurrier to quit the sport.
Spurrier was a great coach, but Smart has already passed him.
But, yeah, Spurrier is the king of the 'zinger.'
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:10 am to GoldenDawg
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It's not disparaging Spurrier to say Smart is the better coach. And what doomed Spurrier at South Carolina is what ultimately doomed him at Florida. He didn't like recruiting.
Spurrier went 10-2 his last season at Florida and went to the redskins( can I say that name?). Doesn’t sound like a lack of talent for Florida there.
As far as the usc job goes, he, like others, couldn’t sustain the level of talent to succeed there long term. Lou Holtz couldn’t either. No offense to usc fans because we’re in a similar position.
I think spurrier, at his age, said screw this, I’m going to the beach and drink some beer. I’ve done enough.
I wasn’t a spurrier fan while he was at Florida, too damn cocky and a smart alec, but he grew on me a little at usc when he got humbled some and he could be self deprecating.
Smart landed in a nest on the ground. All he has to do is not screw it up. BTW , Smart’s cool as far as I’m concerned and congrats to him.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:45 am to GoldenDawg
Not yet IMO.
Spurrier won 4 SEC's in a row ('93-'96) and 5 of 6 from '91-'96. And if '90 was counted (UF had the best record but they were on probation), that's an amazing 6 out of 7 years. He would add a 6th SEC title in '00.
Kirby has won 2 after 7 seasons. Kirby would have to win the next 5 in a row to exceed Spurrier's SEC run.
The state of FL during the Spurrier era ('90-'01) won five natty's:
'91 - UM
'93 - FSU
'96 - UF
'99 - FSU
'01 - UM
A team from FL played in for the national championship in:
'92 UM (blown out by Bama in the Sugar Bowl0
'94 UM (lost to Nebraska)
'95 UF (blown out by Nebraska)
'98 FSU (lost to UTenn)
'00 FSU (lost to OU)
UF had to play UTenn (at their peak), then FSU last game of the regular season (at their peak), then the SEC CG. UF didn't play UM much but they were all recruiting against one another.
Spurrier won 4 SEC's in a row ('93-'96) and 5 of 6 from '91-'96. And if '90 was counted (UF had the best record but they were on probation), that's an amazing 6 out of 7 years. He would add a 6th SEC title in '00.
Kirby has won 2 after 7 seasons. Kirby would have to win the next 5 in a row to exceed Spurrier's SEC run.
The state of FL during the Spurrier era ('90-'01) won five natty's:
'91 - UM
'93 - FSU
'96 - UF
'99 - FSU
'01 - UM
A team from FL played in for the national championship in:
'92 UM (blown out by Bama in the Sugar Bowl0
'94 UM (lost to Nebraska)
'95 UF (blown out by Nebraska)
'98 FSU (lost to UTenn)
'00 FSU (lost to OU)
UF had to play UTenn (at their peak), then FSU last game of the regular season (at their peak), then the SEC CG. UF didn't play UM much but they were all recruiting against one another.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:36 am to GoldenDawg
Yes, Smart has surpassed Steve Spurrier and it ain't close. Back to back natty's, another appearance in the title game and another pretty close SEC loss away from another CFP game in 7 seasons. Spurrier won one natty and lost another in 12 years and complied an impressive winning % of 82. Smart has doubled the number of natty's and has a winning % of 84 in 7 years, and has done so in an era where winning a natty means winning 2 bowl games against top ranked opponents, one with a little over a week to prepare, instead of one bowl game with a month or more to prepare. Florida was the dynasty team in the SEC while Spurrier was there....UGA, like the rest of the SEC, has had to overcome the greatest dynasty in CFB history in Alabama and faced one of if not the best single season team in CFB history in 2019 LSU. They ain't really close. Spurrier was elite in his era and his work at South Carolina was more impressive than that at UF but he never approached what Kirby Smart has done in the CFP era. Smart is the only coach in CFB history to win back to back titles in the CFP era where winning a natty means winning 2 bowl games against pretty good competition, one with a week - 10 days to prepare after a 12 game regular season and a conference championship game. All others winning back to back titles did so with on bowl game and a month to prepare. That is a significant difference. Most of them played 11 or less regular season games and only Alabama has done it with having to play a conference title game. It ain't close between Smart and Spurrier, as good as Spurrier was.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:03 am to GoldenDawg
quote:if you have to ask that question, then the answer is still no,,,,JMO
Has Kirby Smart passed Spurrier? I say ...
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:20 am to ChiGator
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Unfair comparison. Spurrier had to deal with Florida State every season. Those UF teams make a couple more natties if they weren’t constantly running into those FSU buzzsaws
How many would they have won having to win 2 bowl games a year, against pretty solid competition, and win one of those with a week - 10 days to prepare? It is twice as difficult to win a natty in the CFP era than it was in the BCS which was infinitely harder than it was prior to the BCS.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:21 am to GoldenDawg
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Has Kirby Smart passed Spurrier?
Love both guys but the answer is a resounding NO....at least not yet.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:24 am to Lonnie Utah
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Kirby is having success simply because he's the head coach at a school that has more 4* & 5* D1 talent within 100 miles than any other school in the Nation
UGA has 5 recruits from GA in the 2023 class and about 6 or 7 that are 100 miles from Athens. Do you just make shite up?
UGA recruits nationally
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:26 am to GoldenDawg
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It's not disparaging Spurrier to say Smart is the better coach
He's not. Kirby's in a better situation than Spurrier every was as UF or SC. And as a UGA fan, isn't not disparaging Kirby to admit that....
UGA is the better program.
Spurrier is the better coach.
Spurrier basically invented the spread offenses we see today. What has Kirby ever innovated in the game of CFB?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:27 am to Lonnie Utah
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Kirby is having success simply because he's the head coach at a school that has more 4* & 5* D1 talent within 100 miles than any other school in the Nation (including Bama, LSU and texas.)
The is the stupidest take in this thread. You do know Spurrier coached at fricking FLORIDA, right? There are enough elite athletes in that state to stock 3 championship rosters every year.
Spurrier is an all-time great because he woke up sleeping giant. He got UF’s shite together. Kirby’s pretty much done the same thing, although Georgia was in a slightly better place when he took over than Florida was when Spurrier arrived, but to act like Kirby has a natural local talent pool that Spurrier didn’t have is just being actively stupid.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:28 am to TrackDawg
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UGA has 5 recruits from GA in the 2023 class and about 6 or 7 that are 100 miles from Athens. Do you just make shite up?
I didn't say they were on UGA's roster. I said he had more recruits located close to his school.
Do they not teach reaching comprehension at UGA?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:34 am to GoldenDawg
Spurrier's first 7 years at Florida
73-14-1 (49-5 SEC)
5 SEC Championships (6 really)
1 National Title
Kirby's first 7 years at Georgia
81-15 (48-9 SEC)
2 SEC Championships
2 National Titles
Maybe. It's a good argument. 2 national titles carry a lot of weight.
Let's throw another guy in there for comparison's sake.
Urban Meyer's 6 seasons at Florida
65-15 (36-12 SEC)
2 SEC Championships
2 National Titles
Urban had to deal with a little bit of FSU and Saban at both LSU and Bama.
73-14-1 (49-5 SEC)
5 SEC Championships (6 really)
1 National Title
Kirby's first 7 years at Georgia
81-15 (48-9 SEC)
2 SEC Championships
2 National Titles
Maybe. It's a good argument. 2 national titles carry a lot of weight.
Let's throw another guy in there for comparison's sake.
Urban Meyer's 6 seasons at Florida
65-15 (36-12 SEC)
2 SEC Championships
2 National Titles
Urban had to deal with a little bit of FSU and Saban at both LSU and Bama.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 6:38 am
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