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re: Former LSU OLineman T-Bob Hebert says Cam's 2010 >>>>> Burrow 2019
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:59 am to BowlJackson
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:59 am to BowlJackson
I agree. Cam may be the best we've ever seen at the college level
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:18 am to rebelrouser
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Doubt he gets really fat and addicted to sizzurp
Those are two important attributes of Jamarcus Russel
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:21 am to BowlJackson
He was on WSM 650's Afternoon Sports show in Nashville and said Bill Wade's 1951 season was better than Burrow's 2019 one.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:31 am to rebelrouser
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Jamarcus Russel 2.0
Bama Boi
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:40 am to Murph4HOF
T Bob is LSU's class clown type. Gets very little cred , as does his dad, Bobby Hebert with the Saints. Difference being that Senior was a good pro QB & carried the Saints on his back more than a few games. As for Cam vs JB, both were great college QB's & I am not going to nit pick over who was better as a result of having mote talent around him. Each had his own style. Except in fashion where JB is the clear winner.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I don't have an issue with that line of thinking, just laughing at TBob being used as the barometer when he's well known to play to whatever crowd he's talking to.
Seth Dunlap made him look even more like a clown, if such a thing were possible.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:53 am to EXPLAYER
quote:Cam’s receivers were Darvin Adams, Terrell Zachery, Kodi Burns and Emory Blake.
You ever think maybe LSU WRs were better because of Burrow.
The groups aren’t even comparable.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:53 am to BowlJackson
Cam had much less talent on his team. He was also much less dominant. He played a much easier schedule than Burrow and they basically had nail biters against every good team they played.
Unranked Miss St by 3. Unranked Clemson by 3 in overtime. Unranked Kentucky by 3. Worst Saban Alabama team other than his first one by 1. Oregon in the title by 3 with only 22 points.
Way less impressive statistical output than burrow.
So it just depends on what you view as more dominant. Achieving the same benchmarks, Heisman, undefeated season, national title, with less talent
OR achieving those same bench marks against a much harder schedule, with much more dominating performances, and a significantly higher statistical footprint
Unranked Miss St by 3. Unranked Clemson by 3 in overtime. Unranked Kentucky by 3. Worst Saban Alabama team other than his first one by 1. Oregon in the title by 3 with only 22 points.
Way less impressive statistical output than burrow.
So it just depends on what you view as more dominant. Achieving the same benchmarks, Heisman, undefeated season, national title, with less talent
OR achieving those same bench marks against a much harder schedule, with much more dominating performances, and a significantly higher statistical footprint
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:56 am to tigerfan88
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So it just depends on what you view as more dominant. Achieving the same benchmarks, Heisman, undefeated season, national title, with less talent
OR achieving those same bench marks against a much harder schedule, with much more dominating performances, and a significantly higher statistical footprint
Truth.
On just touchdowns alone, Cam was responsible for 51 and Joe had 65 in only one more game.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:59 am to SidewalkTiger
cam is definitely a better runner but burrow is quite effective and an infinitely better passer. cam had a great season. burrow had the best season ever for a qb. dominated every defense - including auburn
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:01 pm to tigerfan88
quote:”much less dominant”
Cam had much less talent on his team. He was also much less dominant.
Cam also played in a completely predictable offense coached by that goon named Gus Malzahn.
Joe Burrow had clear advantages in talent around him and coaching.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:06 pm to TTsTowel
the word you’re looking for is impressive. There’s an argument to be made that what Cam accomplished was more impressive than burrow. I disagree but there’s a reasonable argument.
There’s no debate that burrow was more dominant than cam. Cam outlasted opponents. Burrow eviscerated them
There’s no debate that burrow was more dominant than cam. Cam outlasted opponents. Burrow eviscerated them
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:08 pm to TTsTowel
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Cam also played in a completely predictable offense coached by that goon named Gus Malzahn.
Joe Burrow had clear advantages in talent around him and coaching.
Malzahn was lauded as some kind of offensive genius for awhile
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:09 pm to skrayper
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Burrow had the benefit of WAY more talent surrounding him than Cam did
First of all, none of you thought this last year. Show me all the; "CEH is a great back", "that J Jefferson is a beast", " I can't believe LSU got Moss to transfer there, we really wanted him" threads from last two years.
Second of all, This draft hasn't even occurred yet. we don't know if any of them will be great players.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:11 pm to BowlJackson
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T-Bob's opinion.
Facts > opinions
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:24 pm to tigerfan88
I fully believe Cam was the only QB I've ever seen that could've dragged that Auburn roster to a title. Against SEC defenses built to stop the run, Cam was unstoppable. Lamar and Mike Vick are bigger home run threats for sure, but Cam wasn't too far behind in terms of explosiveness and he was pretty much the GOAT short yardage back (especially when you factor in the advantages QBs have over RBs with the extra blocker/decoy).
Burrow in 2019 executed a pass-first offense as well as I've ever seen in college, but I think it's safe to say that Cam would've been a big upgrade over Burrow in 2018 before we changed schemes. After, it's debatable. But you don't need familiarity with an offense or studs around you when you can run like Cam did.
Burrow in 2019 executed a pass-first offense as well as I've ever seen in college, but I think it's safe to say that Cam would've been a big upgrade over Burrow in 2018 before we changed schemes. After, it's debatable. But you don't need familiarity with an offense or studs around you when you can run like Cam did.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:25 pm to BowlJackson
What makes you think Cam would have had the season Burrow just had even with LSU’s talent?
Sure, Cam is the superior athlete but that doesn’t make him a superior college quarterback.
Sure, Cam is the superior athlete but that doesn’t make him a superior college quarterback.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:35 pm to TTsTowel
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completely predictable offense coached by that goon named Gus Malzahn.
You guys really need to decide whether Gus is a good/bad coach and stick with it
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:04 pm to skrayper
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As he stated, Burrow had the benefit of WAY more talent surrounding him than Cam did. Would Burrow's season been as effective if he had been throwing to Darvin Adams (undrafted FA), Terrell Zachery (undrafted FA), and Emory Blake (undrafted) instead of Ja'Marr Chase (AA and Biletnikoff Award), Justin Jefferson (projected mid-first round), and Terrace Marshall Jr. (probably comes close to 1000 yards as well if not for injury)? Not to even get started on comparing OLs and TEs.
What is going unrecognized is the work they put in during the offseason. In 2018 LSU was plagued by dropped passes.
The summer of 10,000 catches/WR is what made that group elite. They spent all summer catching passes as a door opened, worked out with Burrow on timing and routes outside of regular practice whether it be in the film room or jumping a fence at a nearby HS.
So while JJ, Chase, and Marshall are elite talents they didn't just show up putting on highlight reels.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:34 pm to tigerfan88
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Cam had much less talent on his team. He was also much less dominant. He played a much easier schedule than Burrow and they basically had nail biters against every good team they played.
Unranked Miss St by 3. Unranked Clemson by 3 in overtime. Unranked Kentucky by 3. Worst Saban Alabama team other than his first one by 1. Oregon in the title by 3 with only 22 points.
Way less impressive statistical output than burrow.
So it just depends on what you view as more dominant. Achieving the same benchmarks, Heisman, undefeated season, national title, with less talent
OR achieving those same bench marks against a much harder schedule, with much more dominating performances, and a significantly higher statistical footprint
This just needs to be reposted every time Cam's name comes up.
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