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re: Former LSU OLineman T-Bob Hebert says Cam's 2010 >>>>> Burrow 2019

Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:09 pm to
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You ever think maybe LSU WRs were better because of Burrow. Great players make others around them better. That was terrible comparison. And T Bob did saw Joe had best season ever . Not sure what he said in hictown


A great QB won't turn a mediocre WR into an All-American or nab them a first round draft pick.

Are you implying LSU's WRs are average or such? Why put down your own guys to prop up Burrow?
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:10 pm to
Burrow didn't rely on our defense as much as that Auburn team did. Fairley was as essential to that team as Cam was. We didn't have anyone who could take over a game defensively like fairley did. Auburn would have lost some games without fairley's dominance.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Fun fact

auburn is 2-7 against LSU since Cam left


OUCH!
Posted by J2thaROC
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:21 pm to
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As he stated, Burrow had the benefit of WAY more talent surrounding him than Cam did. Would Burrow's season been as effective if he had been throwing to Darvin Adams (undrafted FA), Terrell Zachery (undrafted FA), and Emory Blake (undrafted) instead of Ja'Marr Chase (AA and Biletnikoff Award), Justin Jefferson (projected mid-first round), and Terrace Marshall Jr. (probably comes close to 1000 yards as well if not for injury)? Not to even get started on comparing OLs and TEs.


Would anyone be talking about Cam at all if Auburn’s defense hadn’t won most of their games for them? There were several games where Auburn barely scored 20 points (one or two under 20 if I remember correctly).

Think about it for a minute. If Auburn has lost 2 games that year, (something they came damn close to doing) they would not be national champions for that year. Does anyone remember them if that happened? Does anyone talk up Cam if that happened?

Was Cam their entire offense? Yes. But don’t act like he had scrubs playing on the field with him either. They may not have been future NFL superstars, but everyone of them was highly rated at 3 stars or better coming out of high school.

You say “what would Burrow look like without those players”. But you fail to ask the question “what would those players look like without Burrow”.

You’re being dishonest on both accounts.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:40 pm to
His name is T-Bob

/Thread.
Posted by EXPLAYER
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:09 pm to
Yeah guess auburn WRs had one leg and one arm. Horrible ,I tell you
Posted by Stretch Suba
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:12 pm to
T-Bob is a dope, just like his daddy. T-Bob sucked as a player (save for his fortuitous snap of the ball against Tennessee in 2010), and he sucks as a radio broadcaster. I avoid that morning show like the plague.
Posted by EXPLAYER
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:55 pm to
Why couldn’t he. Drew Brees has made a lot of WRs and TEs a lot of money.
Posted by EXPLAYER
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:58 pm to
Never realized how much better of a year Joe had then the cross dresser.
Posted by michael corleone
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:20 pm to
Completely respect his opinion and the reason for it. I disagree for the following reasons

1) Cam beat LSU and Alabama, but struggled against both teams. He had a horrendous first half against Alabama. Also, the 2010 SEC Champion was not of the caliber of Georgia.
2) Joe never struggled. He dominated from start to finish. His only “struggle” related to not scoring in the red zone twice against Auburn. Otherwise, he statically dominated that game.
3) Auburn had fantastic defense Cam’s year. Fairly took over games at DT. He knocked QBs out of games. He single handed key controlled the line of scrimmage at times he won the Lombardi that year.
4) Dyer and McCaleb in the Gus attack are the equal of Chase/Marshall/Jefferson. Without Dyer , who was damn good at that time , pounding the middle or McCaleb with track speed on the outside Cam is shut down. Watch the LSU game that year. McCaleb killed us in the outside, which opened it up for Cam late.
5) Lutzenmotherfricker at TE was fantastic in that scheme.
6) Auburn at two first team all SEC O linemen that year and a third guy as 2nd team. I call that even with LSU
7) McCaleb was an outstanding returner who gave them great field position all year long.

Cam clearly had dominate plays during games. He did not dominate the entire game from start to finish. Joe dominated everyone from start to finish, especially his last three opponents and Alabama. Zero picks in those four games and 20 TDs. Cam didn’t do anything comparable to those achievements.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:31 pm to
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Joe Burrow=Jamarcus Russel 2.0. Doubt he gets really fat and addicted to sizzurp but the sweater is coming


Sometimes it is better to keep silent than to show ignorance. Advice you should heed.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Wtxtiger
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:44 pm to
Cam is a washed up, washed out tranny now. He is putting from the ruff and likely is a goo gobbler.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:20 am to
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Would anyone be talking about Cam at all if Auburn’s defense hadn’t won most of their games for them? There were several games where Auburn barely scored 20 points (one or two under 20 if I remember correctly).

Think about it for a minute. If Auburn has lost 2 games that year, (something they came damn close to doing) they would not be national champions for that year. Does anyone remember them if that happened? Does anyone talk up Cam if that happened?

Was Cam their entire offense? Yes. But don’t act like he had scrubs playing on the field with him either. They may not have been future NFL superstars, but everyone of them was highly rated at 3 stars or better coming out of high school.

You say “what would Burrow look like without those players”. But you fail to ask the question “what would those players look like without Burrow”.

You’re being dishonest on both accounts.



No, I'm not the one being intellectually dishonest here.

I swear there are times when I think some of the folks here just manufacture outrage.

At the end of the season, we were being told by more than one LSU fan that you had one of, if not the best, WR corps in the country.

quote:

You say “what would Burrow look like without those players”.


No, I don't. I simply point out he had better players around him than Cam did. Are you refuting that fact?

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But you fail to ask the question “what would those players look like without Burrow”.


Because the thread is a comparison between Burrow and Cam. Their supporting cast obviously plays a part in any discussion when comparing their college careers.

That said, you can keep your artificial rage make-believe insults. If your argument is that LSU's WR corps of 2019 is equal to Auburn's of 2010, that's your prerogative. You'd be wrong, but you can still have that opinion.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:09 am to
I don’t think either of them wins the championship with the other guy’s team.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:12 am to
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Why couldn’t he. Drew Brees has made a lot of WRs and TEs a lot of money.



Is that what you legitimately happened? That your WRs would have been roughly average players with any other QB?

Is that how you feel about the Saints' WRs?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:47 pm to
Emotionally you’re allowed to feel whatever you want.

However, facts and statistics clearly show who’s better.

Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:49 pm to
Auburn’s team in 2010 was pretty much Cam and Fairly so he might be right. Burrow has a mass of NFL talent around him last year.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:51 pm to
its almost as if burrow is trash and LSU is fake
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:02 pm to
Well, if there was ever was one man's opinion, this would be it......
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Because the thread is a comparison between Burrow and Cam. Their supporting cast obviously plays a part in any discussion when comparing their college careers.


Joe had better WR but Cam had an experienced OL, was running the read options with a 5 star RB who was damn good.

Joe won the Heisman 100% with his arm.

Cam won it 50/50 rushing/passing numbers. Don't get me wrong I think until this year it was the single most impressive season I have ever seen. You could argue Cam did more with less, but really I think Joe did Way More with More.
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