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Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:09 pm to Landmass
i am a miserable person. The drive to games is too far and I can't justify spending the money renting a hotel or air BNB for 300 bucks a night minimum 3 nights 6-7 times a year, plus food, plus tickets, plus donation, plus gas. I'm poors, but I also understand 10k today is likely worth 70,000 thirty years from now if invested in something like a broad index fund like the S&P.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:20 pm to yatesdog38
The idea of paying good $$ to sit on a bleacher next to random people, and wait in long arse lines for concessions and bathrooms, just isn't for me anymore.
College stadiums waited way too long to up the amenities in their stadiums like pro stadiums have. Colleges were more worried about bigger than better, and it is biting them on the arse.
Take Ole Miss for example, we just spent a shite ton of $$ bowling in our North Endzone with nothing but bleachers. We don't even need that thing now. We could have left it empty and just been a horseshoe and seat about 55k. That is all we need.
College stadiums waited way too long to up the amenities in their stadiums like pro stadiums have. Colleges were more worried about bigger than better, and it is biting them on the arse.
Take Ole Miss for example, we just spent a shite ton of $$ bowling in our North Endzone with nothing but bleachers. We don't even need that thing now. We could have left it empty and just been a horseshoe and seat about 55k. That is all we need.
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:56 pm to GreyReb
Might be desperation given how bad we are right now but got an email last week from the Arkansas athletic department with the best deal I've ever seen us have - a ticket to two SEC games (Auburn & Mississippi State) plus one OOC game of your choice all for $125. Granted that was for upper level, but still. Got slightly better seats for me and my dad to all three for around $300 after handling fees.
Now they'll probably be cheaper on Stubhub by the time those games get here but seems we are trying to come up with more affordable packages.
Now they'll probably be cheaper on Stubhub by the time those games get here but seems we are trying to come up with more affordable packages.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:58 pm to GeorgeWest
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$125 for alabama.
Still making money off Nick Saban.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:59 pm to GeorgeWest
The season ticket holder does not have a 'choice' as to which games to purchase...your 'premise' only applies to single game purchasers.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:19 pm to GreyReb
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Take Ole Miss for example, we just spent a shite ton of $$ bowling in our North Endzone with nothing but bleachers. We don't even need that thing now. We could have left it empty and just been a horseshoe and seat about 55k. That is all we need.
That's because of Bjork's bait and switch on the donation drive versus the final product. Had they spent the money and done the NEZ the same that the SEZ used to be like, it would have been much nicer, in the shade, and more uniform. By going cheap with the bleachers, they spent a lot of money to have some really shitty seats.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:12 pm to Landmass
Cost went up, stadium product quality went down (got super commercial). TV product has improved
In Arkansas case, on-field product has become an embarrassment
That's a formula for some empty seats.
In Arkansas case, on-field product has become an embarrassment
That's a formula for some empty seats.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:36 pm to Landmass
Price has something to do it with it, but technology and societal changes also have had an impact.
College stadiums for many P5 programs are much larger than NFL Stadiums. It is pointless to go to games and sit in the nosebleed sections. That's not a quality experience at all and certainly less appealing that being in the comfort of home watching it on a large HDTV.
Attending games for many is not just a financial stretch but also an incredible inconvenience with drive time, stadium traffic, etc.
Plus, the competition sucks. Why should someone commute 100 miles or more to watch a P5 program play some rent-a-win?
We've become lazier and more entitled.
College stadiums for many P5 programs are much larger than NFL Stadiums. It is pointless to go to games and sit in the nosebleed sections. That's not a quality experience at all and certainly less appealing that being in the comfort of home watching it on a large HDTV.
Attending games for many is not just a financial stretch but also an incredible inconvenience with drive time, stadium traffic, etc.
Plus, the competition sucks. Why should someone commute 100 miles or more to watch a P5 program play some rent-a-win?
We've become lazier and more entitled.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:32 pm to WaydownSouth
Because when we atleast got the season tickets, they were 250 a piece. It’s hard to give up something you’ve done every weekend for decades but there also comes a time when “is it worth it” flys in you mind.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:40 pm to Landmass
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point. Not only can you watch your game in HD on a couch in A/C, but you also can watch all of the other games if you want to.
So true. Hard to justify watching you roll an FCS team and give up watching the other good games of the day.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:49 pm to bayou85
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yes. Its just too easy to watch on tv. They make so much money from TV, just lower prices and up the game experience.
I do think you are going to see major changes in stadium design over the next 10 years. Instead of cramming people into stadiums you are going to see less seats/more room and more visual/audio improvements to give people more interactive experiences. I expect food and beverage including bars will be common place as well.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:42 pm to TimeOutdoors
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do think you are going to see major changes in stadium design over the next 10 years
I don't think this is as inevitable as everyone thinks. Spending millions to shrink seating means you'll have to crank up the new seats price significantly. You'll need to cover lost revenue from the cheapos you took out + the millions spent to add fancy new seats
Given only 7-8 events a year, that's some delicate economics to recover $x million over a few years
Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:48 pm to Landmass
Yes. Too high. I've been saying this for the last 5 years.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:53 pm to Landmass
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That's because of Bjork's bait and switch on the donation drive versus the final product. Had they spent the money and done the NEZ the same that the SEZ used to be like, it would have been much nicer, in the shade, and more uniform. By going cheap with the bleachers, they spent a lot of money to have some really shitty seats.
I'm so glad that fricker is gone and is now A&Ms problem to deal with. He presented it as a match to the SEZ initially. One of my biggest gripes about VHS is that it looks like 4 different stadiums thrown together. Nothing matches up. I had season tickets over in the SEZ back in 2003, and man, that's so much nicer to walk up into than any of the other dates.
Even after he steered the donations elsewhere, the rendering he presented isn't what we got. No videoboard on the back of the NEZ for instance.
Having said that, The Pavilion is pretty badass.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:54 pm to Landmass
It’s not just the ticket prices. It’s that the experience has become so corporate. So with the rowdy crowd and amazing experience draw going down, the following becomes less attractive.
For 4 seats for 7 games:
Tickets: $2,100
Upper deck seat donation: $1,000
Parking: $500
Hotel: $1,000
Eating out: $1,500
Tailgating fixins: $2,000
Total: $8,100 per year
Or......
Be at home watching on 72” HDTV with friends cooking.
That’s why I no longer have season tickets. The value of the experience did not equal the $10,000 annually I was paying.
For 4 seats for 7 games:
Tickets: $2,100
Upper deck seat donation: $1,000
Parking: $500
Hotel: $1,000
Eating out: $1,500
Tailgating fixins: $2,000
Total: $8,100 per year
Or......
Be at home watching on 72” HDTV with friends cooking.
That’s why I no longer have season tickets. The value of the experience did not equal the $10,000 annually I was paying.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:05 pm to 9Fiddy
I think some schools are going to see some startling attendance numbers in the next season or two. Arkansas will for sure.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:11 pm to Landmass
I spent about $2500 last year for 4 season tickets to football, while I watched the seats next to me sell on StubHub for $20 a game. Not renewing this year.
I'll buy tickets to individual games I'm interested in and save thousands.
I'll buy tickets to individual games I'm interested in and save thousands.
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