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re: Yahoo: We could end up with 5 QBs taken in Round 1 of the NFL draft
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:51 pm to TTsTowel
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:51 pm to TTsTowel
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So that makes him not a great QB prospect?
His game makes him a suspect sure fire prospect.
Sidewalk can be an absolute idiot, but he's not totally wrong here.
Lawrence's hype grew to immense proportions after the 2018 Alabama game. Go back and watch the film. He didn't make NFL throws in that game. He threw to a wide open Justyn Ross because a shittastic DB flopped at the line of scrimmage.
He played in a conference where his team was light years ahead of everyone else as far as talent goes.
Hell, his backup threw for over 400 yards against Notre Dame.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:53 pm to TideSaint
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Sidewalk can be an absolute idiot, but he's not totally wrong here.
I resemble that remark
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:58 pm to TideSaint
quote:Well, yeah, his backup is and will be extremely good, too.
Hell, his backup threw for over 400 yards against Notre Dame
You’re really reaching on all this.
Trevor Lawrence will be fine.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:06 pm to TTsTowel
Lawrence is too similar to Jameis Winston.
He’ll probably throw for a lot of yards, but he’s going to throw a lot of picks and his running will decline each year.
He’ll probably throw for a lot of yards, but he’s going to throw a lot of picks and his running will decline each year.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:10 pm to TTsTowel
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What was particularly special about Andrew Luck’s stats while he was at Stanford?
I really don't think that is an appropriate comparison. That was 10 years ago, before offensive production exploded, in a very conservative system. I guess my question is, what was stopping Lawrence from having the kind of season Burrow did last year when he was throwing to Tee Higgins and Justyn Ross? I mean, if he's really that good, why has he never produced like it despite his situation at Clemson presenting zero obstacles to it?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:13 pm to Robot Santa
Clemson fans like to say that he was pulled out of games early but they ignore the fact that Lawrence had more pass attempts than Fields in 2019.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:14 pm to SECFan413
quote:Jameis Winston threw more interceptions in one college season than Trevor Lawrence did in his entire college career.
Lawrence is too similar to Jameis Winston.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:17 pm to Robot Santa
quote:His 2019 season was pretty absurd.
what was stopping Lawrence from having the kind of season Burrow did last year when he was throwing to Tee Higgins and Justyn Ross? I mean, if he's really that good, why has he never produced like it despite his situation at Clemson presenting zero obstacles to it?
3,700 passing yards, 560 rushing yards and 45 total touchdowns vs 8 interceptions.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:20 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Your Bama fan bias is showing.
Burrow went #1, and Mac Jones had comparable if not better stats. He also had less to work with than Burrow when Waddle was injured.
The only reason Trevor Lawrence is going to be drafted #1 is because he was a 5 star recruit. Jones outplayed every QB this year and it isn't close.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:25 pm to bfpri
quote:Tua outplayed Justin Herbert in college.
The only reason Trevor Lawrence is going to be drafted #1 is because he was a 5 star recruit. Jones outplayed every QB this year and it isn't close.
Again, y’all look too far into stats.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:30 pm to TTsTowel
But how many # of crab legs did TL walk off with.
Jamies would run Trevor out of Publix parking lot in a NewYork minute.
Jamies would run Trevor out of Publix parking lot in a NewYork minute.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:30 pm to TTsTowel
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Again, y’all look too far into stats.
And sometimes qbs are blessed to be on a team where literally every player in every game on your side is better than the opposing team. It’s not an exact science but it helps when you’re team is superior in every way to 99pct of your opponents.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:49 am to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:super funny, the guy just completed perhaps the best full season performance any qb has ever had. what exactly do you think his deficiencies as a qb are? Has high iq and fast processing, has a strong arm, has extreme accuracy and great ball placement, has elite pocket awareness and mobility working the pocket, does not let pressure phase him and will stand in and take a shot, gets the ball out on time and to the right guy for what the defense is doing, goes through his progressions, throws a beautiful deep ball and hits guys in stride, is a great anticipatory passer, is great at manipulating the safety with his eyes, understands protections and communicates with his online, is a hard worker, a good leader, and a good team mate. The guy is a gunslinger who has learned the value of ball security. He is durable and has perfectly adequate size. What are the negatives? He did as much or more than tua and burrow did last season, despite losing one of his first round wrs early in the season(burrow had 3 in '19, tua had 4 in '19, Jones played most of the year with 1).
Mac Jones as a first round pick...
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 1:56 am
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:57 am to bfpri
quote:and he's 2-3 inches taller
The only reason Trevor Lawrence is going to be drafted #1 is because he was a 5 star recruit. Jones outplayed every QB this year and it isn't close.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:10 am to paperwasp
Hopefully whoever drafts Jones sends him to nutrition expert and and changes his workout regimen
Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:37 am to plazadweller
No way I’d draft Jones in the first half of the draft. There are literally dozens of QBs that can sit in a pocket with no pressure and hit wide open NFL wr. Felipe Franks would look like a first rounder in that offense.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:14 am to paperwasp
Not sure why he’s playing in Senior Bowl. I don’t think he wants to be compared to other QBs on a physical tools stage. Mac Jones will never get as lucky as he did with the Combine being cancelled. Yo only have to worry about a Pro Day at UA with your receivers in a controlled environment. There is no way he was looking forward to being on a skills stage with Fields, Lawrence, Wilson, & Lance. It probably saved him 2 rounds. I think someone will pick him up in the 3rd round. He’s not a first round talent. .. and that’s not to say he’s not a second round.. but USUALLY teams with glaring needs take a QB in the first, and most teams will fill other needs in the second. Wait till 3 or 4th round for a QB that is clearly not a 1st round guy.
2020-
4 1st round guys
1 2nd round guy- Jalen to the Eagles in the back half of the round
1 in 3rd and 2 in 4th
This is the norm..
There have double the amount of QBs taken in the 1st round than 2nd round and more than in the 2&3 combined. 4th and 5th and 6th are similar but a higher clip than 2/3. The 7th is as many as the first, filling out practice squads..
2020-
4 1st round guys
1 2nd round guy- Jalen to the Eagles in the back half of the round
1 in 3rd and 2 in 4th
This is the norm..
There have double the amount of QBs taken in the 1st round than 2nd round and more than in the 2&3 combined. 4th and 5th and 6th are similar but a higher clip than 2/3. The 7th is as many as the first, filling out practice squads..
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 6:22 am
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:22 am to 3rddownonthe8
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Not sure why he’s playing in Senior Bowl. I don’t think he wants to be compared to other QBs on a physical tools stage. Mac Jones will never get as lucky as he did with the Combine being cancelled. Yo only have to worry about a Pro Day at UA with your receivers in a controlled environment. There is no way he was looking forward to being on a skills stage with Fields, Lawrence, Wilson, & Lance. It probably saved him 2 rounds. I think someone will pick him up in the 3rd round. He’s not a first round talent. .. and that’s not to say he’s not a second round.. but USUALLY teams with glaring needs take a QB in the first, and most teams will fill other needs in the second. Wait till 3 or 4th round for a QB that is clearly not a 1st round guy.
2020-
4 1st round guys
1 2nd round guy- Jalen to the Eagles in the back half of the round
1 in 3rd and 2 in 4th
This is the norm..
There have double the amount of QBs taken in the 2nd round and more than in the 2&3 combined. 4th and 5th and 6th are similar but a higher clip than 2/3. The 7th is as many as the first, filling out practice squads..
Cool.
I wonder why CBS Sports has him going #4 overall then?
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NFL teams seem to like Jones more than media folks so this may seem way too high for the Alabama QB. While he's no real threat to run, he does everything else at a high level. Matt Ryan will be back for the '21 season for the Falcons and Jones can take over in Year 2.
NFL teams like him more than the media? Shocking.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 6:27 am
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:46 am to SidewalkTiger
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No but he's more mobile and has a higher ceiling.
It amazes me how people fall in love with a player for ancillary skills when they don't do the primary components of the job as well as others. The two most important parts of being a QB are reading defenses and throwing accurately. Mac Jones does that better than anyone else in the draft. "Muh mobility!" doesn't count for much if you can't do those two things.
There's a reason why Peyton, Brady and Brees are on their way to Canton and the Mike Vicks of the world are not.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:32 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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He had wide open receivers everywhere at Bama, no tight windows, no need to read coverages pre or post snap, had all day to throw.
There is no way you watched Mac Jones play football this past year.
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