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re: Why is Tennessee not good?

Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:00 am to
Posted by Pastor Mike
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:00 am to
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If your puke is UT orange you need to see a doctor


Reading comprehension is the answer to UT's problems
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:00 am to
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It's not a hotbed, but Nashville metro, and now the Chattanooga metro are continually growing and middle and east TN are producing more and more SEC level talent. What Tennessee's issue is, that they've not gotten enough of these players outside the 2014 and 2015 classes.



This...Where have the top 10 players from each class gone?

2016 - 3 of the top 10 players in the state (4, 7 & 9) signed with UT
2017 - 3 of the top 10 players (1, 5 & 8) signed with UT
2018 - 2 of the top 10 players (3 & 9) signed with UT
2019 - 3 of the top 10 (2, 7 & 9) signed with UT
2020 - 5 of the top 10 (1,2,4,7,8) signed with UT
2021 - 1 of the top 10 (8) signed with UT

UT can't dip into North and South Carolina like the could when Fulmer was there...so they have to at least pick up the most talent than can in their own back yard. If they can't get half of the top 10 at least every other year...then it's a pretty good indication that their system is broken.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7766 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:01 am to
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Why is Tennessee not good?




The question is more "why were they ever good post-segregation?" They had a couple of really good coaches. If your school is surrounded by yellow, being consistently good is an uphill battle.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:02 am
Posted by CavalryAg07
ChiTown
Member since Jul 2009
2772 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:06 am to
Titans
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:18 am to
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Yeah, you're not gonna get any sympathy here.


Dont care as Sympathy is irrelevant to my point. Instead, it’s all about logic and understanding of how football works.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:20 am to
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Terrible management.


And coaching. That’s really all there is to it. We have had the talent to be far better.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:26 am to
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And coaching. That’s really all there is to it. We have had the talent to be far better.


Exactly, we've recruited well enough to be clear of the rest of the division bar maybe South Carolina, but we have had some terrible coaching staffs and have way underperformed as a result. People are really out here acting like our recruiting is why we been losing to Kentucky and Vanderbilt and fricking Georgia State.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:32 am to
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Exactly, we've recruited well enough to be clear of the rest of the division bar maybe South Carolina, but we have had some terrible coaching staffs and have way underperformed as a result. People are really out here acting like our recruiting is why we been losing to Kentucky and Vanderbilt and fricking Georgia State.


I think it comes up repeatedly because fans are used to their own schools’ recruiting methods and they fail to grasp that we’ve had several top classes during all this. We have simply had really bad coaching.
Posted by tigerwith3
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2011
1384 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:36 am to
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In one sentence: A decade of terrible leadership hires at both the AD & subsequently HC positions

Not a good enough excuse. LSU had Joe Alleva, les miles and coach O and they have thrived while having these miserable coaches and AD.

It all comes down to recruiting. You can overcome miserable hires when you bring in top 5 classes.

Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:43 am to
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Not a good enough excuse. LSU had Joe Alleva, les miles and coach O and they have thrived while having these miserable coaches and AD.



You are vastly underestimating how poorly run Tennessee has been. Miles and O are both leagues better than Dooley, Jones, and Pruitt, and don't even get me started on how bad the ADs have been.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:49 am to
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Dont care as Sympathy is irrelevant to my point. Instead, it’s all about logic and understanding of how football works.


You lost 5 players from a team loaded with 5 stars. Cry me a river.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:10 am to
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Why is Tennessee not good?


Tennessee is the SEC's version of Nebraska.

A storied past but not a destination for top players today.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 9:11 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:13 am to
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Tennessee is the SEC's version of Nebraska.

A storied past but not a destination for top players today.



Exactly...Kind of like what LSU was in the 90s.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:15 am to
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Follow up: Why is Texas not good?
Poor coaching and a toxic atmosphere created because of it. Hopefully that improves with this staff
Posted by UTprideofTX
Member since Apr 2013
2193 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:16 am to
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Tennessee is the SEC's version of Nebraska.

A storied past but not a destination for top players today.


We're completely different.

We have all the university resources and recruiting base, we're just fricken it up.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5122 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:17 am to
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Texas is better than you think they are.. but no, they still need to get better. Check out the Sagarin thread as I updated for new teams.


You guys lost to kansas? I mean ... what?
Posted by OrangeEmpire
Parts Unknown
Member since Feb 2020
6179 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:30 am to
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:33 am to
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Why is Tennessee not good?
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FINALLY, the correct fricking answer.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:34 am to
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We have all the university resources and recruiting base


You have the worst "recruiting base" of all the big 6 in the SEC.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
Parts Unknown
Member since Feb 2020
6179 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:35 am to
Nebraska's downfall is a totally different story. Steve Pederson destroyed Nebraska football by changing their identity.

As it has been said before, UTAD comes down to flat out incompetence.
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