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Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:57 pm to TrNabs
Awful lot of answers here, which one do you want?
They’re reaping what Fulmer sowed by backstabbing Majors.
Agent Dooley, noted saboteur, did the job he was asked to do.
Yada, yada, yada.
In reality, timing and poor decisions have a lot to do with it. Phil Fulmer was their Mack Brown.
Talent booms in Georgia and Florida, along with the waning years of Fulmer, coincided with the hirings of Mark Richt, Urban Meyer and Nick Saban. Knoxville is inherently more difficult of a recruiting pitch than Athens or Gainesville due to proximity of talent. Living between Nashville and Charlotte could be cool if you’re into hiking and granola, but the proximity of Athens to Atlanta (and the rest of Georgia) and Gainesville to Tampa, Orlando and Jacksonville is much better for recruiting purposes.
Tennessee, despite Vanderbilt and Kentucky being two of their primary rivals, rightly measures itself against UGA, UF and Bama. They countered the aforementioned hires with Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, Butch Jones and Jeremy Pruitt.
I don’t think they’re anywhere close to coming back to 90s level UT and likely won’t return to that form for another decade, if ever.
Imagine Mack Brown getting fired, but Oklahoma hiring Nick Saban, West Texas becoming the new recruiting hotbed for college football and the programs benefitting the most from that hiring a Meyer / Richt guy while you’re stuck with Charlie Strong.
They’re reaping what Fulmer sowed by backstabbing Majors.
Agent Dooley, noted saboteur, did the job he was asked to do.
Yada, yada, yada.
In reality, timing and poor decisions have a lot to do with it. Phil Fulmer was their Mack Brown.
Talent booms in Georgia and Florida, along with the waning years of Fulmer, coincided with the hirings of Mark Richt, Urban Meyer and Nick Saban. Knoxville is inherently more difficult of a recruiting pitch than Athens or Gainesville due to proximity of talent. Living between Nashville and Charlotte could be cool if you’re into hiking and granola, but the proximity of Athens to Atlanta (and the rest of Georgia) and Gainesville to Tampa, Orlando and Jacksonville is much better for recruiting purposes.
Tennessee, despite Vanderbilt and Kentucky being two of their primary rivals, rightly measures itself against UGA, UF and Bama. They countered the aforementioned hires with Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, Butch Jones and Jeremy Pruitt.
I don’t think they’re anywhere close to coming back to 90s level UT and likely won’t return to that form for another decade, if ever.
Imagine Mack Brown getting fired, but Oklahoma hiring Nick Saban, West Texas becoming the new recruiting hotbed for college football and the programs benefitting the most from that hiring a Meyer / Richt guy while you’re stuck with Charlie Strong.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:00 pm to TrNabs
I’m hoping this is a response thread to someone asking why Texas sucks.
Texas has been doing the same thing with less competition.
Texas has been doing the same thing with less competition.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:01 pm to MenloDawg
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Living between Nashville and Charlotte could be cool if you’re into hiking and granola
well done, sir
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:01 pm to TrNabs
A strong UGA is very bad for UT.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:04 pm to TrNabs
Texas has averaged 7 wins a season in the last 10 years.
Tennessee has averaged 6 wins a season in the last 10 years.
Texas plays in the Big 12, Tennessee plays in the SEC.
Conclusion: Texas sucks.
Tennessee has averaged 6 wins a season in the last 10 years.
Texas plays in the Big 12, Tennessee plays in the SEC.
Conclusion: Texas sucks.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:05 pm to TrNabs
Is there a football program in the ncaa that does less with more, than the Longhorns?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:06 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Well the guy you’ve got coaching your OL
The scheme is moving back a zone blocking type setup which favors speed and mobility over size. It should be interesting if they can compromise enough to make it work because I don’t think I’ve seen a successful zone blocking scheme in the SEC.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:32 pm to TrNabs
Phil Fulmer got lazy recruiting and couldn’t hire quality assistants to save his life. Once the SEC started improving in the early 2000s, he was exposed as an average football coach.
Then we hired Lane Kiffin, who ditched the program after one year. In hindsight, hiring Gary Patterson or Brian Kelly, both of whom would have taken the job, would have been a better idea.
Then after Kiffin left for SC, instead of just naming Kippy Brown the interim coach for 2010, Mike Hamilton made a panicked hire with Derek Dooley. Who turned out to be one of the five worst coaches in modern SEC history.
Then Dave Hart comes along and hires Butch Jones. Now for all of his faults, and there were many, If he had just let his coaches actually coach and stuck to his cheesy slogans, Butch could have actually been successful in Knoxville. Instead he was micromanager who couldn’t manage worth shite. On top of that he was an absolutely atrocious game day coach.
Then John Currie comes along. Has a half assed coaching search after dismissing Butch, which results in Greg Schiano being offered the job. Then all hell breaks loose in Knoxville. The deal falls apart and Currie has to go back to square one. He then offers the job to such coaching heavyweights as Jeff Brohm and Dave Doeren. Only to be publicly rejected by both. He then decides to disappear, and departs for California to meet with Mike Leach without telling his bosses in Knoxville. The admin at UT literally had no idea where he was for the better part of eight hours. At the conclusion of the Leach meeting, A deal to make him the next HC looks all but done. But in the meantime all hell breaks loose, again, and Currie is summoned back to Knoxville where he is “suspended” for going rogue.
All the while, a certain fat arse former football coach sees the opportunity to get himself back into the building. He pulls the necessary strings and eventually becomes interim AD. He kills the Leach hire and proceeds to conduct a laughable coaching search which results in him hiring a legit retard who has the emotional intelligence of a three-year-old. He then somehow gets the interim tag removed and signs a multi-year contract to be the full time AD.
That retard of a football coach turns out to be just that. The desperate fanbase goes all in. They believe that the former National Championship winning coach will bring back the “good ole days” of Tennessee football. And despite all of the ties that the new coach has with the hated Crimson Tide, the fans fall in love with the new coach, because he has a southern accent and uses words like “aight.” He and his staff go on a player buying spree which produces a whopping 16 wins over a three year stretch. His tenure also includes arguably the most embarrassing loss in program history.
So moral of the story, don’t hire bad athletic directors, because those bad athletic directors usually hire bad football coaches, who then produce bad results.
It’s been a decade and half of pure hell.
Then we hired Lane Kiffin, who ditched the program after one year. In hindsight, hiring Gary Patterson or Brian Kelly, both of whom would have taken the job, would have been a better idea.
Then after Kiffin left for SC, instead of just naming Kippy Brown the interim coach for 2010, Mike Hamilton made a panicked hire with Derek Dooley. Who turned out to be one of the five worst coaches in modern SEC history.
Then Dave Hart comes along and hires Butch Jones. Now for all of his faults, and there were many, If he had just let his coaches actually coach and stuck to his cheesy slogans, Butch could have actually been successful in Knoxville. Instead he was micromanager who couldn’t manage worth shite. On top of that he was an absolutely atrocious game day coach.
Then John Currie comes along. Has a half assed coaching search after dismissing Butch, which results in Greg Schiano being offered the job. Then all hell breaks loose in Knoxville. The deal falls apart and Currie has to go back to square one. He then offers the job to such coaching heavyweights as Jeff Brohm and Dave Doeren. Only to be publicly rejected by both. He then decides to disappear, and departs for California to meet with Mike Leach without telling his bosses in Knoxville. The admin at UT literally had no idea where he was for the better part of eight hours. At the conclusion of the Leach meeting, A deal to make him the next HC looks all but done. But in the meantime all hell breaks loose, again, and Currie is summoned back to Knoxville where he is “suspended” for going rogue.
All the while, a certain fat arse former football coach sees the opportunity to get himself back into the building. He pulls the necessary strings and eventually becomes interim AD. He kills the Leach hire and proceeds to conduct a laughable coaching search which results in him hiring a legit retard who has the emotional intelligence of a three-year-old. He then somehow gets the interim tag removed and signs a multi-year contract to be the full time AD.
That retard of a football coach turns out to be just that. The desperate fanbase goes all in. They believe that the former National Championship winning coach will bring back the “good ole days” of Tennessee football. And despite all of the ties that the new coach has with the hated Crimson Tide, the fans fall in love with the new coach, because he has a southern accent and uses words like “aight.” He and his staff go on a player buying spree which produces a whopping 16 wins over a three year stretch. His tenure also includes arguably the most embarrassing loss in program history.
So moral of the story, don’t hire bad athletic directors, because those bad athletic directors usually hire bad football coaches, who then produce bad results.
It’s been a decade and half of pure hell.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 1:32 am
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:36 pm to BigBro
quote:Lol, no.. .you're not. Yall are in for a rude awakening real fast.
Texas is better than you think they are..
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:39 pm to TrNabs
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Why is Tennessee not good?
They wear Orange being a Texas fan you should understand this.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:40 pm to BigBro
How is Texas better than anyone on here knows? They are more likely in fact worse.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:41 pm to TrNabs
God I hate you bastards. Smug beevus sacks of shite
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:42 pm to philly444
I think Butch Jones sounds like the guy to turm them around.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:42 pm to TrNabs
They fulmered themselves. It's when you butt chug beer until you're retarded.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:46 pm to t - cam
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How is Texas better than anyone on here knows? They are more likely in fact worse.
Well the consensus here seems to be that we're a .500 to .300 team (according to Kentucky fans). So I seriously fricking doubt we're worse.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:47 pm to TrNabs
Their last natty was a whopping 7 years before your last one.
We have no room to talk about being a “blue blood”. Difference between A&M and Texas is that we know it.
We have no room to talk about being a “blue blood”. Difference between A&M and Texas is that we know it.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:48 pm to Ag Zwin
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We have no room to talk about being a “blue blood”. Difference between A&M and Texas is that we know it.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:50 pm to TrNabs
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huge stadium,
I mean, do they? They have legion field, with the seats painted at 75% capacity.
I've been once. It was shite.
The river? Ok. Nice. But the stadium is shite.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:50 pm to TideTurf
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They wear Orange being a Texas fan you should understand this
This.
You cant expect to be good wearing those baby shite orange jerseys all the time. Nobody wants to wear that shite.
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