Ag Zwin

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You need to learn to put things in context.

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Point out the context that qualifies the statement.

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We want to have borders. We want to have security. We want to have things be good, safe. We want great education, want a strong and powerful military. And ideally, we don't have to use it. We had no wars four years. We had no wars except we defeated ISIS. We defeated ISIS in record time, but we had no wars. They said he will start a war. I'm not going to start a war. I'm going to stop wars. But this is also a massive victory for democracy and for freedom. Together, we're going to unlock America's glorious destiny. We're going to achieve the most incredible future for our people.

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ETA: And there it is. Thread anchored. This board has so gone to shite.

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Just because you are not paying attention doesn't mean everybody else was not paying attention.

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The irony.

Are you seriously going to claim that these quotes negate claims that, at other times, he explicitly said something different.

Just one example:

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Election-night victory speech, November 2024: “Four years, we had no wars, except we defeated ISIS… They said, ‘He will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop wars.”

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I think the OP has things a bit backward.

Pointing out legitimate errors happens on all sides, to varying degrees.

The unusual thing here for a long time was the swarming downvotes and “Kamala Voter!!!” reactions to these criticisms.



Finally seems like the people who can think in nuances are speaking up and pushing back on the idolatry.

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Leftist POS Fever coach sides with ghetto thug against her own player

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FFS.

I think the coach is being too charitable about the neck comment, but the hard foul thing is something that happens all the time.

What I do find silly, though, is the ridiculous framing of the thread title. This place has become too much like the rest of social media: Posters compete to put the most ridiculously hyperbolic spin on relatively mundane events just to see how ginned up they can get engagement.

In a lot of ways, this is why nothing gets dealt with in good faith anymore. The "boring" work of actual policy loses energy to outrage porn.

So fricking childish.

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Greed is everywhere.

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FFS, I hate this “greed” trope.

It’s like when mouth breathers throw out the “X doesn’t pay taxes”.

I always ask “How much do you pay in taxes above what you are legally required to?”

There is an analog in how much you discount things you sell (including your time) so that you are more “fair” to the buyer.

“Freakonomics” should be required reading.

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RCV varies from state to state. But one of the common factors is that in RCV you have to put a vote in for every candidate in the list. Rating them from highest to lowest of which ones you want. And many voters don't realize that if they don't do that, and only vote for the candidate they want then their vote doesn't count! It's a system that is intended to convolute, skew, and confuse the voting process.

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Then is it a fair argument to say the concept itself is not as inherently flawed as the way it’s often implemented?

When there are 10 candidates, I see the problem with ranking every one. What if you just do your top two, though, and if only one is listed then that’s just one first place vote?

Is this a law passed by the legislature, or just fiat?

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8. Texas A&M

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Obligatory…

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They are spot on with what is actually happening over there.

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How would any of us actually know that?

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I would put good money that most people in this thread that are done with Trump never left their couch to go vote at all.

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FFS, have you never had times you were put out with and arguing with your wife or kids?

Did that mean you were “done” with them?

Grow the frick up.