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re: Why are some schools' National Championship "claims" more valid than others
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:01 am to The Winner
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:01 am to The Winner
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It is fricking bullshite that Alabama claims this BS title and mocks Arkansas for claiming it. This should be a unanimous Arkansas title because they were the only undefeated team in college football
Alabama just doesn’t claim it. It was awarded both major polls, numbnuts.
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:02 am to CapstoneGrad06
I'm just waiting on someone to realize that Georgia is down there with Arkansas and Ole Miss
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:03 am to MSHawg1
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:04 am to The Winner
Except that the polls voted for the National Champ before the bowl games in 1964. The poll voters, like most people then, viewed the bowls as exhibition games.
The UP changed after 1964 and started voting the NC after the bowl games. I believe the UPI continued voting before the bowls until around 1974-75.
The UP changed after 1964 and started voting the NC after the bowl games. I believe the UPI continued voting before the bowls until around 1974-75.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:05 am to TheHarahanian
Its real enough to me dang it 
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:08 am to MSHawg1
2004 is vacant........just saying.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:10 am to MSHawg1
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Georgia and Kentucky, on the other hand, are routinely awarded Nattys in '42 and '51, respectively, that are based solely on computer rankings from decades after those seasons ended
Good lord this is so far from the truth I don’t know where to begin.
Dawgs in 42 were selected by 6 major selectors. And could claim 3 more if counting like Bama.
Sit down little one.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:11 am to TheHarahanian
you gotta give OM the 1960 championship. the other 2 they claim are some made up BS not recognized by anyone. just like their mascot the landshart
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:11 am to dhuck20
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Dawgs in 42 were selected by 6 major selectors
So I should count Arkansas' 77
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:13 am to dhuck20
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Dawgs in 42 were selected by 6 major selectors. And could claim 3 more if counting like Bama.
Myth
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:19 am to CapstoneGrad06
A&M claims 3 national championships but has 6 undefeated seasons.
One of the seasons we DON'T claim, we allowed 0 points on the year.
One of the seasons we DON'T claim, we allowed 0 points on the year.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:20 am to MSHawg1
64 is recognized
77 isn’t. Probably because that was 1 computer based system in the 70s. Looks like they care about AP, coaches, BCS, CFP and FWAA
77 isn’t. Probably because that was 1 computer based system in the 70s. Looks like they care about AP, coaches, BCS, CFP and FWAA
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:23 am to yatesdog38
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you gotta give OM the 1960 championship
See my criteria above in this thread. Did they celebrate said NC at the end of the 1960 season? Do they have the traditional items awarded for a NC, that were awarded at the end of that season? What did the regional and national newspapers say at the time?
In fairness, some have tried to award the 1908 NC to LSU. Who has 110-year old hardware for that NC? It's Penn. Who were the papers talking about as NC back then? Penn.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:24 am to Nguyening
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One of the seasons we DON'T claim, we allowed 0 points on the year.
Kentucky has a season like that too. Nicknamed "The immortals" IIRC. No Natty for them though
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:25 am to MSHawg1
Arkansas- 3
1909, 1964, 1977
1909, 1964, 1977
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:27 am to MSHawg1
quote:OF COURSE, dude. It's as valid as many of these others. Also, count 1909.
So I should count Arkansas' 77
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:27 am to MSHawg1
The only BS Bama NC is 1941, all others are either are major polling services, BCS/CFP, or Rose Bowls. I would say 16 is correct even though Bama could claim more.
If Arkansas wants to claim 64 or Auburn wants to claim 83 then have at it.
If Arkansas wants to claim 64 or Auburn wants to claim 83 then have at it.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:31 am to The Winner
Well you have Notre Dame to thank for that.
Revisionist thinking doesn’t change the fact NCs were awarded pre bowl season back then because Notre Dame was too good to play in bowl games from 1926-1970.
Revisionist thinking doesn’t change the fact NCs were awarded pre bowl season back then because Notre Dame was too good to play in bowl games from 1926-1970.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:37 am to TheHarahanian
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See my criteria above in this thread. Did they celebrate said NC at the end of the 1960 season? Do they have the traditional items awarded for a NC, that were awarded at the end of that season? What did the regional and national newspapers say at the time?
So UCF has basically positioned themselves for a valid claim in the future.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:42 am to Night king
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The only BS Bama NC is 1941, all others are either are major polling services, BCS/CFP, or Rose Bowls. I would say 16 is correct even though Bama could claim more.
If Arkansas wants to claim 64 or Auburn wants to claim 83 then have at it.
An updated list using this criteria and using the current opinions of the posters in this thread, an updated list would look something like this
1) Alabama - 16
2) Tennessee - 6
3) Auburn - 4
4) LSU - 4
5) Arkansas - 3
6) Florida - 3
7) Georgia - 3
8) Texas A&M - 3
9) Ole Miss - 2
10) Kentucky - 2
11) Vanderbilt - 2
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