re: Why are some schools' National Championship "claims" more valid than others

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If a team wins all their games, I’m ok with a banner or some recognition.

They won every game.

National Champions in a sport where 128 teams play 12 games is sort of contrived anyway you look at it.

I’m ok with champs of AP, UPI, playoff, bcs, and teams that won them all putting up a banner.

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Then programs should just schedule nothing but cupcakes using that logic. BYU played 0 teams that finished ranked in 84 and their best win was 6-5 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl.

Bear Bryant never new he won the National Championship back in 1950.

Damn now he has 7

1984 BYU got most of their claim because they beat #3 Pittsburgh (at the time), and because Oklahoma and Washington ducked at playing them in the bowls. BYU could only play in the Holiday Bowl and OU and Washington were both given the option to taking a huge bowl reward loss to play BYU in the Holiday but chose to play each other in a top 5 matchup in the Orange Bowl. I seriously doubt anyone would blame Washington or OU without knowing pollsters would do them dirty like they did.

It just goes to show you how stupid the Poll era was in that pollsters had too much power with their biases. If folks want to say everything before 98 is mythical championships then I’m okay with it based on situations like that, and if someone believes there is a legitimate claim for their team to claim one then I’m fine with that also. But it doesn’t diminish the fact that major polling services legitimately rewarding National Championships based on the criteria of the day. This also doesn’t mean that teams on postseason bans after 1964 deserve a legitimate claim to one.

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What Alabama title did they claim under probation?

If you are saying 09 then yes ON RECRUITING PROBATION, but that wasn’t on BOWL and POSTSEASON BAN. Both 1984 Florida and 1993 Auburn were on postseason bans and weren’t eligible for primary poll National Championships. Big difference.

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1957 Auburn and 1974 Oklahoma would like a word with you.
Additionally, the AP would've named us in 85 if didn't lose to Georgia.

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1984 BYU got most of their claim because they beat #3 Pittsburgh (at the time), and because Oklahoma and Washington ducked at playing them in the bowls. BYU could only play in the Holiday Bowl and OU and Washington were both given the option to taking a huge bowl reward loss to play BYU in the Holiday but chose to play each other in a top 5 matchup in the Orange Bowl. I seriously doubt anyone would blame Washington or OU without knowing pollsters would do them dirty like they did.

It just goes to show you how stupid the Poll era was in that pollsters had too much power with their biases. If folks want to say everything before 98 is mythical championships then I’m okay with it based on situations like that, and if someone believes there is a legitimate claim for their team to claim one then I’m fine with that also. But it doesn’t diminish the fact that major polling services legitimately rewarding National Championships based on the criteria of the day. This also doesn’t mean that teams on postseason bans after 1964 deserve a legitimate claim to one.

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OU was required to play in the Orange as Big 8 champ. Now Washington wasn't tied into a bowl (USC won the Pac 10) but they probably got paid a lot more to play in the Orange over the Holiday.
That Pitt team went 3-8 BTW.

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If you are saying 09 then yes ON RECRUITING PROBATION, but that wasn’t on BOWL and POSTSEASON BAN. Both 1984 Florida and 1993 Auburn were on postseason bans and weren’t eligible for primary poll National Championships. Big difference.

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You were on probation the same as Auburn. You also had recruits restrictions. No such thing as recruiting probation.

And do you really want to get into championships and bowl games from the past

FWIW the 50s NCAA issues were because Bama paid Pinkerton investigators to fabricate shite. The school actually hired pi’s to investigate a rival

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You were on probation the same as Auburn. You also had recruits restrictions. No such thing as recruiting probation.

And do you really want to get into championships and bowl games from the past

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I wish y'all would've claimed 93 just to piss off FSU.

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1984 BYU got most of their claim because they beat #3 Pittsburgh (at the time), and because Oklahoma and Washington ducked at playing them in the bowls. BYU could only play in the Holiday Bowl and OU and Washington were both given the option to taking a huge bowl reward loss to play BYU in the Holiday but chose to play each other in a top 5 matchup in the Orange Bowl. I seriously doubt anyone would blame Washington or OU without knowing pollsters would do them dirty like they did.

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I don’t know if you are really that stupid or are trying to fool people. There are these subtle things called “contracts” that every conference has with bowls. The Big 8 had a “contract” with the Orange Bowl at the time to send their conference champion. The only way OU could have avoided this is by refusing to go to ANY bowl, whereby the conference runner up goes.

Hope you learned something new today.

Yeah I think the Big 8 had the tie in to the orange bowl until the 90s (correct me if I'm wrong). So yeah, they didn't duck BYU. They were obligated to play in the Orange Bowl.

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Why are some schools' National Championship "claims" more valid than others

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Honestly?

It is because some schools are irrelevant.

We are all subject to recency bias, so arguing over that 1 split championship won 50+ years ago during 125+ years of playing football is a waste of time.

The next championship is what matters most.

Quit searching for validation.