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re: Why are some schools' National Championship "claims" more valid than others

Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:59 pm to
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that was a non-sequitur and not an answer to my question


I answered your question honestly. My point is your question is absolutely irrelevant to, well, anything being discussed in this thread.
Posted by phlux
Member since Jan 2008
546 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:01 pm to
because Arkansas kek
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1901 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:01 pm to
The answer to your question was no, Bryant didn't consider either of those games as glorified scrimmages.

I didn't know that the AP reverted to voting before the bowls again. Thanks for the info.
Posted by Night king
Sylacauga, Al
Member since Oct 2018
35 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:04 pm to
Well the 1973 ND game was basically for the AP National Championship so I think it meant way more.

But why is it relevant?


The biggest problem with the Poll era is that it rarely matched #1 vs #2 against each other. I mean hell, only 3 out the 6 national championship bouts Miami played in the 80’s and 90’s matched #1 vs #2 and they went 1-2 in them. And Miami won every national on their run in the 80’s and 90’s except for 1 was in the Orange Bowl ( their home stadium), but no one whines about it. No one ever questions the legitimacy of Miami’s titles until the 2000’s.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Because some fanbases will argue about the number they have until the others just give up trying to explain why they are lying. Then people just quit caring what number they throw out or years they claim.


Are you for real? Some clown for Auburn wrote a BOOK about their "titles" not rightfully awarded.

Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:07 pm to
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And Miami won every national on their run in the 80’s and 90’s except for 1 was in the Orange Bowl ( their home stadium), but no one whines about it. No one ever questions the legitimacy of Miami’s titles until the 2000’s


Every Auburn fan under the sun whines about Miami's 1983 title.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:08 pm to
Yeah but, it's auburn, who cares?
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:08 pm to
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I see many trolls on this site (namely OU and Bama posters) who would argue till they are blue in the face that the Hawg's 1964 National Championship is not legit.


What OU fan cares about pig’s 1964 season? Did we play you that year or were we in contention? Since the answer to both is “no”, why would it bother you?
Posted by Night king
Sylacauga, Al
Member since Oct 2018
35 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:09 pm to
If Auburn wants to claim 2004 or 1983 I’m sure most Bama fans wouldn’t whine about it because we know they were screwed in both cases.



But Auburn will never claim 2004 because they would owe Tubberville a crap ton of money if they did.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:11 pm to
Alabama isn’t the only program who was awarded a national championship and then lost their bowl game. 1950 Oklahoma and 1960 Minnesota come to mind immediately.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21983 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:14 pm to
has anyone read my expose' on Bama's bogus titles?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:14 pm to
Yeah, we’ve read your trollish expose and I believe every single one of your points were successfully refuted.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:16 pm to
Alabama won titles in 64 and 65, but Arkansas had better records both years. In fact, our only loss was to LSU and it ended a 22 game win streak.
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:16 pm to
My only gripe is any university retroactively adding championships decades later.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:17 pm to
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Only issue being you lack SEC titles
List looks good though
wwell, yeah, but to be fair, we have 13 conference titles, and have 3 Western Division SEC 'titles', too.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:18 pm to


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So LSU has the second most and Georgia has the same as Arky and Ole Miss? I'll take it...
we can all get behind this i think :)
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Alabama won titles in 64 and 65, but Arkansas had better records both years. In fact, our only loss was to LSU and it ended a 22 game win streak.


Yep, no arguments here. It’s a shame Arkansas wasn’t able to get a title either of those years.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:21 pm to
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My only gripe is any university retroactively adding championships decades later.


This is literally every traditional power house. USC retroactively awarded itself a title from the 30s back in 2004 or 2005. Most of Michigan’s title claims were retroactively awarded. Same for some of the Ivy League schools like Princeton.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:23 pm to
Yes. 100 times. We get it.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:24 pm to
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NoMansLand
because january 1978
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