re: Why are some schools' National Championship "claims" more valid than others

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2004 is vacant........just saying.

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The last time USC (Cali), won a national title was 1972.

Because some fanbases will argue about the number they have until the others just give up trying to explain why they are lying. Then people just quit caring what number they throw out or years they claim.

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Alabama lost their fricking bowl game to Texas who Arkansas defeated and Arkansas went undefeated.

It is fricking bull shite that Alabama claims this BS title and mocks Arkansas for claiming it. This should be a unanimous Arkansas title because they were the only undefeated team in college football

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For your convenience, I have highlighted the only thing above that matters. "Should be" is not the same thing as "is."

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Alabama lost their fricking bowl game to Texas who Arkansas defeated and Arkansas went undefeated.

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For a while, bowl games were vacations and exhibition games more so than part of the season. Players and coaches didn't approach them the same way they do now.

Quit applying your experiences of the 2000s to stuff that occurred in the 1960s.

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Because some fanbases will argue about the number they have until the others just give up trying to explain why they are lying. Then people just quit caring what number they throw out or years they claim.

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And this, my friends, is where Rabern comes in. A quirky yet selfless fellow, dedicating his life to a monk-like existence patrolling college football boards from the safe but cavernous confines of his mother's basement. A noble student, he has embarked on the eternal pursuit of truth.

It really is surprising how much people care about historical titles before 1980. I mean that is like me bragging about me bragging about being the fastest kid on the playground in the 1st grade. I was a fast mofo. It matters 100 percent because it is relevant to my speed today.

The claim is seen as valid if it's a consensus claim.

Do a lot of selectors acknowledge your year?

Are they mainstream respected selectors?

The older you go, the more selectors you had and they were all over the place.

By the 60's the AP and the Coaches Poll became the defacto selectors and none of the others mattered anymore.

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Players and coaches didn't approach them the same way they do now.

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Alabama's AP title for 1964 is legit, although I see no problem with Arkansas claiming a championship that year,too.

What I want is some Alabama fan to explain to me that the 1965 Orange Bowl vs Texas and the 1973 Sugar Bowl vs Notre Dame didn't mean anything to Bear Bryant and he viewed it as a glorified scrimmage.

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What I want is some Alabama fan to explain to me that the 1965 Orange Bowl vs Texas and the 1973 Sugar Bowl vs Notre Dame didn't mean anything to Bear Bryant and he viewed it as a glorified scrimmage.

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What I want is some Alabama fan to explain to me that the 1965 Orange Bowl vs Texas and the 1973 Sugar Bowl vs Notre Dame didn't mean anything to Bear Bryant and he viewed it as a glorified scrimmage.

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(1) Well he didn't view them as scrimmages, but the polls apparently did. If you'd like you can see the trophies that were awarded (at the time) in the Bryant Museum.
(2) Were those titles cheapened by bowl losses? Absolutely!
(3) Did those titles still happen? Yes, see point #1.

I don't actually give a shite about this argument but I get drawn into it every time because it's just fascinating - the mental gymnastics people must play to twist this around in their favor.