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re: Why are some schools' National Championship "claims" more valid than others

Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by NoMansLand
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:53 pm to
Please provide a link or anything other than your worthless opinion of this being true.

I watched that game (and have watched/listened tobasically every other OU game since 1977). I saw the Schooner get stuck in the mud negating the FG and we missed the retry. You Sir, don’t know jack shite about that game or its circumstances.
Posted by MSHawg1
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:55 pm to
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We are all subject to recency bias, so arguing over that 1 split championship won 50+ years ago during 125+ years of playing football is a waste of time.

The next championship is what matters most.


This makes no sense considering your own fanbase's obsession over Arkansas claiming to have a championship in '64. You would think that big time programs like Alabama would continue to forge ahead to future titles rather worry about what happened 50+ years ago.
Posted by Night king
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:03 pm to
From 04-present Bama was eligible to be in consideration for a national championship.

1993 Auburn was not allowed to be considered to being a major Poll national champion.

Two different things.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:05 pm to


Again not sure why you are fighting this. Alabama was on probation for the NC.

But keep bringing up Auburn. Very lil bro like
Posted by Night king
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:24 pm to
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They tried to get a Top 5 matchup but too many folks wanted that big bowl deal, that includes Oklahoma.

FWIW bowl Tie ins don’t mean a team has to accept a deal, only that the conference has to provide a worthy team. Hell Bama played ND in the Orange bowl in 1974 instead of the Sugar bowl.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:27 pm to
I'm truly not intending to sound like a smartass, but am aware of how the following may be taken...
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This makes no sense considering your own fanbase's obsession over Arkansas claiming to have a championship in '64.
this makes no sense as I'd argue few to none are obsessed with it. It is one of many split NCs. Bama's trophy room holds multiple FWAA Grantland Rice trophies, so it isn't as if the University doesn't recognize it.

Bama won the 2 pre-bowl major polls that year. The FWAA was a post bowl award, so that is one variance.

That said, I go back to... why? Why does it matter so much if another fan base validates your NC or not. It makes you sound obsessed with a need for trolls and assholes to provide third party recognition.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:29 pm to
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Very lil bro like
dude... come on bruh. Bama and its fans are a wide variety of things over a very wide spectrum, but lil' bro to Auburn in anything remotely football related is not one of them.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:34 pm to
Well we are the older team. And everything used as a trait of a lil bro in this context is what he is doing. So yes very lil bro like.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:43 pm to
I hope y'all didn't pull an FSU and retroactively change your founding date.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:49 pm to
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Well we are the older team. And everything used as a trait of a lil bro in this context is what he is doing. So yes very lil bro like.
even along those lines of logic, it isn't "little brother syndrome," so much as it would be older sibling jealousy worsening over time as sibling rivalry turns into adult envy.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:04 pm to
Umm it absolutely is... again all the lil bro traits are being exhibited he’ll look at the board. We aren’t even playing bama this week and your fan base can’t help but obsess.
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:49 pm to
Dude, I’m not replying any more after this.

Your link was a recap of the game & did not mention OU refusing to play BYU. It did mentioned that OU coach Switzer lobbied that that the winner of OU/Wash be considered the default champion. He did do that-at the prompting of Orange Bowl to get better ratings. Switzer discussed all of this in his book Bootleggers Boy & even alluded to having a waste water treatment plant named in his honor in Utah.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:51 pm to
We've already tried to explain to him about the bowl tie-ins back then. Just pat him on the head and move on.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:18 pm to
Do teams really have total control of their schedule?

Most teams play their conference, try to get a neutral site or home&home with a power 5 and fill the others with a game for the walkons.

I’m ok with teams claiming when they win all games. Other teams can claim polls, playoff, etc. it’s not a big deal to me.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Because we beat Oklahoma's arse in the sugar bowl, ruining their 2 season win streak, and we have one of these



Gone.... After negative feedback, it was replaced with the original Sugar Bowl trophy.

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When Kentucky opened its brand new, $45 million football practice facility recently, it raised some eyebrows not just because of its state-of-the-art amenities, but also because the Wildcats prominently displayed a mock 1951 national championship trophy

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After suffering the brunt of some negative feedback, Kentucky replaced the crystal football, which the BCS began handing out in 1998, with the actual 1951 Sugar Bowl trophy itself Monday.


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