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re: What exactly holds Texas A&M back?

Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:05 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:05 am to
It's Jimbo, plain and simple. He just is a very washed up coach stuck in many ways.

Imagine hiring Coach O after the 2020 or 2021 season because of the title in 2019.

That's what they did essentially with Jimbo. Ignored the obvious warning signs bc got lucky with a title (generational QB).
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:22 am to
quote:

not saying Texas doesn't produce good football players, they absolutely do, but with the hype an average (at best) QB might be anointed as the second coming of Peyton Manning. And they get to school, with all this publicity, and turn out to be... an average QB.


I've heard the argument that an unknown poor kid from Mississippi has more undeveloped potential than a player who is a product of a big time high school.

I'm not sure how true that is but you hear it said.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9688 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:27 am to
Same problem all Texas schools have. The coaches do not run the program. Hell, SMU got the death penalty not because of coaches but the naughty 9 that ran the program including governor bill Clemens. When you have guys ponying up millions for facilities, players, coaches, they are gonna wanna have a say in what goes on and they are not “football” people. Same problem the cowboys have with jerry jones. The money that the ags and longhorns have access to actually hurts more than it helps.
Posted by GOLFNSTUFF
Member since Oct 2023
277 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:31 am to
Should've stayed in the Big 12. Path would've been easier.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:33 am to
quote:

It's Jimbo, plain and simple. He just is a very washed up coach stuck in many ways.

Imagine hiring Coach O after the 2020 or 2021 season because of the title in 2019.

That's what they did essentially with Jimbo. Ignored the obvious warning signs bc got lucky with a title (generational QB).



This is absolutely the correct answer. The Aggies have plenty of talent and resources to compete with the big boys, but they completely whiffed on the most important piece - the head coach. Fisher was most likely on his way to getting fired at FSU when they inexplicably gave him a massive contract that is now an albatross around their neck.
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
227 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:42 pm to
aggy's main problem is their obsession with Texas. aggy truly has a loser mentality due to this obsession. Get rid of all that Texas envy stuff in their traditions and they could be in a better place.

But we know aggy won't do that. It's just who they are - losers.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47608 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:55 pm to
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What exactly holds Texas A&M back?

Several reasons, but I'll name a couple signficant ones. The administration and fans. They have really good fans in person (not on the forums). Very nice and respectable, good to talk to. But you will notice their response to mediocrity and ineptitude is quite different than most SEC fans. Example: LSU blows a lead and loses. Go to the LSU Rant and other boards and the fans are melting and angry. ATM fans in their situation may be dissatisfied, but then go back to "cute trolling" of other fans. The passion for winning isn't there compared to other fan bases.

Their administration. Example: LSU fires Coach O not even 2 years after he wins a NC. LSU announced his firing after LSU defeated Florida. Do you think ATM would have fired him in this situation? Then non-LSU fans come on message boards trolling LSU firing Miles and O. Guess what... LSU fans don't care. We get another coach.
Posted by L5UT1ger
Member since Feb 2004
2599 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:39 pm to


9, 12, 10, 3, no thanks
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Fan1958
Member since Oct 2020
308 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:16 pm to
I posted this in another thread but since this one seems to be more active I'll do it again:

They get a lot of grief because they think they are something they are not. 5&7 has never won anything of any consequence, yet they act like they are playing for championships every year.

Here is a sampling of 5&7's series records against opponents they play on a regular basis, including UT and OU coming to the conference:

Alabama: 3-13
Arkansas: 35-42-3
LSU: 17-31-2
OU: 9-18
UT:37-75-5

That's a .348 winning percentage. WOW. Great batting average. Not so great for a "major" player in college football.
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
1227 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:20 pm to
Now do Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy, SC, Kentucky and Tenn vs those same teams.
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
1227 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:25 pm to
How to fix program:
1. Hire new coach and assistants
2. Bring in cheerleader team (yes we have one)
3. Put the yell leaders in their place. Just call yells. No gay shite
4. Get rid of the DJ at the stadium
5. Have fans place their cell phones in pouches like at comedy events
6. Review all stupid traditions and. Eliminate the dumb ones
7. Fire Ross Byork
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1354 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:25 pm to
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3. Their weird traditions they are remnants of the reasons they state why they weren't successful (Yell Leaders because no cheerleaders because All Male "Military" school and Corps of Cadets).



I'm so confused
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:35 pm to
There were warning signs with Jimbo at FSU but Jameis and Dalvin (plus playing in a much weaker conference) masked the OL issues. But still, I figured by now he would've at least won something at A&M. They've got the money, facilities, and fan support to match anyone in the country.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14938 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

7. Fire Ross Byork


He should be on the top of the list.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3365 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:55 pm to
80 years of losing culture, weird fans, alumni, and administration. They also are universally hated across the country. Miami, and A&M have proven NIL money alone can’t win championships though and these “donors” and “collectives” are going to start tightening up at every major program including OU and Texas.
Posted by EastTXHorn
Houston
Member since Jan 2019
791 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Before the SEC move, A&M was the program that cheaped out on everything from stadium, to practice facilities, to no-name coaches, with no-name staffs.

Isn’t A&M tied for most NCAA recruiting violations in the history of CFB?
Posted by houstonearler
Member since Jan 2005
173 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:35 pm to
The issue now is Jimbo.

You can have a handful of talented turds or mercenaries. But if you fill your roster with them, you get the culture rot that A&M is experiencing now.

Was happening at FSU but he left before it completely crashed.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5007 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Now do Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy, SC, Kentucky and Tenn vs those same teams.



quote:

Ole Miss


theyre just mouthy rn cause they beat us.

quote:

Miss St, Vandy, SC, Kentucky and Tenn


you may not realize it but youve just pointed out exactly who you compare to in this conference, at least in football. pretty much every one of these teams is better than yall in baseball.

but that list is exactly where yall rank no matter how resilient your trolls and alters may be.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
684 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:37 pm to


Do you even Jimbocrates bro?
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 4:37 pm
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