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If he ever makes it to the show (not saying he will) that would be an incredible story
I dont know how anyone could disagree McMahon was clearly the wrong hire headed into the NIL era as he never bothered to even vouch for the program with the people who mattered. It was crystal clear after year 3 he needed to go, but the admin at the time sat on their hands and protected him only for us to watch him go from McNeese probably dying to come back here to NC State which caused us a lot more money to go out and get him at that point and probably lucky we did after we got the right admin in place.
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Lawson McLeod committed to Georgia Southern.



Remember when he decommitted some entity out there put up something about us lacking baseball NIL and we lost a top commit, etc :lol:

Turns out it had absolutely nothing to do with lack of NIL if GaSo is the destination :lol:
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I think he had a rough year 2 and probably was told that PT might be hard to come by in a room full of some high level RHP



He didnt have a rough year 2, that was the other JUCO guy we dropped a bit more back. Osbolt had 102 strikeouts in 73 innings.

Nothing really stands out in a huge way about Osbolt, he could eat innings here, maybe give you quality here and there but would probably never factor in a super major way among the arms we have. Doesnt mean he cant give good innings, just means its probably less here than most other places. He's got the stuff to strike people out but didnt dominate JUCO or anything (4.82 ERA last season).
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It’s awesome to get drafted and all. But you could go to one of the best colleges in the country and be in the hunt for a championship every year. I would take that all day long instead of wasting my talent in JUCO.



You are not seeing it from their perspective, just an LSU fan

His perspective is I wanna get paid and paid more than Cleveland just offered me ($1.5M-$1.7M) as quickly as possible. At JUCO you are draft eligible after just 1 season, and again after a 2nd. He is not turning 21 before the end of the sophmore year so he has to wait 3 years if he goes to any D1 school.

He also is getting guaranteed innings and playing time at any juco, he gets zero guarantees coming here because we care first and foremost about winning games. He could come here, have some control problems early on, and throw 12 innings his freshman year. He could go to a JUCO, work through those control problems on the field and maybe even work his way out of it in the different aspect than he would get here and get a bonus he wants to sign for after just 1 or 2 seasons.

If his primary objective is to become eligible as quickly as possible and try and maximize his value, going the JUCO route makes way more sense.
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Almost every talking LSU podcast head has said that if this kid lands at LSU, then he’s almost assuredly going to be somewhere in the starting rotation in year 1. He’s that good.



I'm not saying it cant happen, but he will have to 100% earn it and probably because of the 3 returning guys struggle, not necessarily wins the job and takes it from them by the time winter practice ends.

It's pretty rare for a freshman pitcher to go wire to wire as a starter as they simply arent used to that kind of load over the course of a season (15+ starts) and many times get "Eased in" a lot of times. With 3 returning starters he would have to show consistent dominant performances in the fall and winter prior to the season to supplant Evans, Schmidt or Moore day 1 probably.

People always get these unrealistic expectations for pitchers especially in college from the get go. Remember when a lot of us thought Will Schmidt would dominate from day 1? He only started 6 games and pitched a total of 32.1 IP his freshman season.

Kade Anderson only threw 38.1 IP his freshman year here
Chase Shores 18.1 IP
Ty Floyd 24.1 IP

Landon Marceaux and Cole Henry back in 2019 were the last to really pitch a ton here freshman year. Still neither broke 60 IP that season. Henry had just 11 starts and Marceaux 14. Competition back then isnt nearly what is now, they were competing with Zack Hess, Eric Walker and a younger Ma'Khail Hilliard for starter innings just for comparison.
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Additionally, Schmidt is not a top 10 prospect. He was #45 on mlb.com.


Miso wasnt highly rated either, did not get drafted in the 5 round draft back in 2020, came back and signed for $2.35M 2 years later after essentially 1 year of any production at JUCO

In the end, there arent a ton of datapoints to go in because frankly not a ton of particularly highly rated kids ever do go the JUCO route, it doesnt mean there arent datapoints in the past saying it isnt a route someone cant be successful with though.

Some kids, like Miso, can take pretty large leaps especially during that kind of time frame. Look at how some kids come in here and look at end of year 2 sometimes.

Curiel came here because he really wanted college, but I bet if he went JUCO he would have probably signed for a large amount after just 1 year there too (maybe not $6M exactly, who knows, but certainly a large sum of money).

In the end, just not a ton of datapoints, but when someone is looking for the fastest route to a large MLB contract after not getting over like $1.5M offers initially out of high school, that route is not best suited to lock yourself in for 3 years at a d1 place. Technically speaking you can spend 1-2 years in JUCO and be eligible each year and might not have to wait 3 years to get what you want. Doesnt mean it will always work out, but also doesnt mean it wont work out either, but thats the fastest way to get yourself back into the draft for a someone who wont be 21 by the end of their sophomore year. I do think it's a difference pitch to a DES than it is to someone who has to be locked in for 3 years. It sounds a bit silly, but a year can make all the difference, especially being eligible with leverage for at least 2 years in d1, not just 1.

Keep in mind the promises being made are quite a bit different to a guy like this from LSU's end and a JUCO's end. Sure, we can pay him a nice comfortable amount to come here, but we can make no guarantees with playing time. We care about winning first and foremost and if he someone doesnt have it, they wont pitch much, flat out. Any JUCO out there would sell a weekend rotation spot and for him to pitch as much as he wants there by comparison.
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If he’s successful at LSU, he signs for far more than that.



If he's successful year 1 at a JUCO he could also sign for $3M-$4M maybe and this is all a moot point.

To me, at least, he's looking for the fastest route to getting a bigger signing bonus, and that way is not locking himself into waiting 3 years here. HE can always come here after 2 years in JUCO if he isnt happy with where his draft status is.

Plus whenever you see guys like this who clearly to me have no real interest in college, is this a guy you definitely want in the program? Jay has said many many times over the past few months, but he really wants guys who WANT to be here, not just guys looking out for themselves and dont care about college at all necessarily.
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Starting at a JUCO for 1 year to improve draft stock doesn't seem like a good plan. Weak competition. He does well? That's expected. He does not-so-well? He's screwed.



He has 2 chances to be drafted at a JUCO before ever getting that chance at LSU, this is why some kids choose this route and have found success with this in the past.

In the end, if he goes JUCO he clearly just wants the fastest path to the majors and a big contract possible. He can always go to a d1 school after a couple years trying at JUCO if he needs to. Seems like thats not the path he wants to take though (waiting 3 years again to be drafted).
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Correct but he'll still get his $$ via NIL



This isnt nearly what you probably think it is

IT's not like he's coming here making 7 figures a year

He'd probably be lucky to get even 6 figures year 1

re: Logan Schmidt

Posted by thunderbird1100 on 7/26/26 at 7:52 am to
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For those that may know, Is this a common tactic among recruits? How often do good players strategically choose Juco?


This is more of a special case, but Jacob Misiorowski missed his senior season of high school back in 2020 due to covid. Draft was shortened to 5 rounds and he went undrafted. He was committed to Oklahoma State but decided to go to JUCO instead. In 2021 he tore his meniscusending season early. He was committed to us and stayed in JUCO for 2022, where he had a huge year, threw 100mph at combine got drafted 2nd round and signed for $2.35M.

Had he went to ok st he would have had to wait till 2023 draft to be drafted.

re: Logan Schmidt

Posted by thunderbird1100 on 7/25/26 at 10:58 pm to
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What could juco pay compared to Lsu


This is irrelevant

What is relevant is can he wait 3 more years to enter draft again or wants to be eligible next year and also in 2028 if he chooses JUCO

It's not like we're going to be able to throw $3M or something crazy his way for 3 years

re: Damn…Jay got us loaded!

Posted by thunderbird1100 on 7/24/26 at 11:04 am to
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No Louisiana peeps.



Bradyn Cupit is in the class and from LA, but the only one. Was not drafted

Was a pretty weak year in-state. Only 1 LA kid got drafted that was committed to Tulane and signed for $747k

2027 is loaded in LA by comparison, we got 6 commits from the state right now

re: Whit Weeks on OTB

Posted by thunderbird1100 on 7/23/26 at 9:01 am to
Last year's offense was pretty predictable, it basically was the spread version of the Les Miles days of "we just believe every player we have is better than yours" which doesnt work out great a lot of times, especially when they know whats coming :lol:
When you have a lethal offense it's usually very advantageous to go for it typically in 4th/3 or less situations as analytics will show you.

There's a bunch of variables around that though. If you're up 10 with 4 minutes to go in game and you're 4th/2 on your own 28 yard line - I highly doubt Lane would be going for that. Make the team drive the field twice if they want to tie/win the game, dont give them a potential short field in a 2 score game with 4 minutes to go.

It's all very situational. Lane isnt an idiot, but he is aggressive and knows the stats when you have a good offense favors the offense often in 4th/short situations
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Max Johnson #100



Cant believe he might be starting for my other school (GaSo) after all these years :lol:
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I loved that card but almost $1k wasnt worth it in my case



Gotta be a pretty diligent couponer to get the use of the AMEX Platinum or CSR

I personally dont know how anyone gets the value out of the Citi Strata Elite; the $200 blacklane credit is :yack: and the other credits dont cover the AF on that. The only way to even cover the AF there is if you put true value on the lounge access which you can also do on the Platinum or CSR and those have way more usable credits.

For our first year of CSR which I just got beginning of June I am expected to get $1,680 of value out of before AF of $795 and not counting my 150k welcome bonus. Just feel like there's so many usable credits on this one, and the Platinum honestly. But doesnt fit everyone.
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Alas, they're nerfing the transfer rate on Hyatt to 4:3. Pisses me off. That was the best use of UR points for me at 1:1



Part of the reason I got the 150k bonus on the CSR, to stay 1:1 to Hyatt.
Sorry you are right there, but doesnt change the overall view of the card, which is really just an amazon (or whole foods) store card in the end.

Chase is always changing up what does/doesnt cash back and such. The worst part about the amazon card is its not UR points, but I believe its the same with all their co-branded cards. We have the IHG premier one and it just gets IHG points, which makes sense I guess. All those co-branded cards would be very overpowered if they earned any UR points on top of points/miles within their existing brand....but would be 1 way to get A TON of people to sign up for them. :lol:
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If these were standalone features for the card, sure. But 5% back at Amazon/WF plus all the little offers throughout the year propel it significantly upward.


This is all what I said earlier, the point is it's really just a store card for the most part, and it makes sense for anyone who spends a significant amount on amazon, explained all that.

Just pointing out 2% amazon cash back for gas and dining is not a selling point nor should anyone be putting that spend on this card for that.

Gas and dining are 2 usually very large categories for a lot of people in spend and there's tons and tons of higher multiplier cards out there for both, ones that offer higher actual cash back you can cash out or even way more value from points/miles to transfer out to partners or use in portals.

In the end, this isnt a catch all card and shouldnt be treated like one, it's a store specific card for most part outside of random deals like I explained going on right now (which is for very limited spend).
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Why do people have an aversion to shorting stocks ?



Go talk to all the institutions and people that have lost everything by shorting stocks, there's plenty of them

There's infinite downside