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Have the big 12 trophies been shoved into a closet along with jimbos natty trophy or are they dusted regularly and given a place of prominence next to the Galleryfurniture.com Bowl trophy?

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Trophies?

They won the Big 12 one time -- back when Bill Clinton was president. That was also the last time they even played in a conference championship game.

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He's arguably the least impressive part of his team.

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He had 37 touchdowns against 5 turnovers last year playing behind a OL that was putrid for 8 games and below average for 5 games. He had the highest pressure rate in the P4. He had no running backs and his receivers dropped 8 percent of his passes, which I believe was the highest in the SEC.

Now he has a very good line, excellent backs, and competent receivers.

We will see, but I think he has a chance for a special season.

ESPN used to run office linebacker commercials with Terry Tate. In one of those, he violently form tackles a tall blonde woman who was the HR / sensitivity trainer, after she makes a pass at a male coworker. That tackle is the plot turn: she is fired and Tate goes back to policing the office. In that same short he also says his tackling “knows no race, gender, or creed.”

That was funny too due to is absurdity. No one cared.

Nor did they care when Peyton Manning did SNL skits beaming little kids in the head with a football.

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Can't lose to under .500 teams and still make it.

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Tell that to Alabama, who got smoked by a 5-7 FSU, who in turn lost by 20 to the Florida team Sark lost to.

Florida had talent, as the draft showed. They only lost to UGA by 4.

The most important part of this case is not whether Lane engineered or recruited the players. It is the dec action confirming the SEC and Sankey's right to sanction LSU under the bylaws. I expect that to be pretty easily decided in favor of the SEC.

The SEC is allowed to be inconsistent or even nonsensical. Because it is a voluntary association. LSU as a member of the SEC vested Sankey in the bylaws with sweeping powers to discipline members for conduct detrimental to the league and the discretion to decide how to determine what constitutes such conduct.

So many people here do not understand the legal principles in play. It does not matter if you think it is unfair how the SEC draws the lines. They have the power to draw them how they want.

The federal court judge will make this very clear in his order granting the SEC relief. It is not even that complicated of a case.

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No. Because the LSU player performed better in their mini camps, that makes them ineligible to play college ball. Since nobody wanted the Texas player to continue, he gets to come back. Those are the very well thought out and not arbitrary at all rules.

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The distinctions are the LSU signed contracts with NFL teams. And were rostered by them. Not that they played better.

The SEC gets to decide how it wants to enforce its rules on members. That is part of being a member of a voluntary organization. Their remedy is to sue for breach of the contract -- but it would have to be LSU as the players do not have standing. Or to leave the conference.

He is not a pro as the SEC defines it. They issued clear bright lines earlier this week. I think LSU also has a guy under similar circumstances. Did not declare early, only did minicamp tryout and never was rostered or signed contract.

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Which have both played in an SEC football championship game since joining the conference.

Know who hasn’t?

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A&M has not even played for a conference title since 1998.

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LSU can file a contempt-of-court motion over the SEC refusing to follow an injunction, while the NFL can sue LSU for tortious interference of their contractual rights.

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So LSU, who is not a party to the lawsuit where the TRO is issued is going to sue another nonparty to that lawsuit in that lawsuit for a procedural rule LSU voted in favor of? What color is the sky in your world?

I am ambivalent on Hutson. Will have zero issue or complaint if the SEC clarifies he is also not eligible. I do not think it is as egregious as the players who signed NFL deals and were rostered. He did neither. Under the SEC bylaws, the SEC has the power to exercise whatever discretion it wants. If a member does not like the rules, it is a voluntary organization and they can leave.

Personally, I would like to see all former pros be ineligible. That includes basketball players who were pros overseas or in the G league. If that means Hutson has to go because the SEC wants clear and very strict rules, so be it.

I don't think he should be eligible either. But there are differences.

There is no such thing in the NFL as a tryout roster. In the off-season, the active roster has a maximum of 90. It stays at 90 until the cutdown date (Sunday, 8/30) when the teams must cut from 90 to the regular season number of 53. After the waiver period, teams also will be able to sign players to the practice squad.

Cole tried out with the Cowboys and Browns. This was just a tryout and he was not on any kind of tryout roster as that doesn't exist. He was offered a NFL player's contract by both teams, but did not sign either one. Therefore he was never on an active (at that time 90 players) roster because he did not sign a contract with a team.

According to the NCAA pro rule, he has not turned pro. I feel confident that it is the same with the SEC and BIg 10 "rules" released yesterday because they appear to be the same or quite similar to the NCAA rule.