re: Tua, Manziel, Tebow, or Cam?

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Tua, Manziel, Tebow, or Cam?

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How about some context for which we are choosing? We thinking who will go down as the best of the bunch by the time their careers are all finished, who was the best college QB, what?

Stephen Garcia
Tua
John Bond
Cam
Tebow
Johnny Dumbass

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Early in the season people laughed at Tua being compared to Tebow, Manziel, or Cam....

But times have changed muh friends...

I say...

1. Cam (frick Auburn)
2. Tua
3. Tebow
4. Johnny

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If you're going off team success then it should be:

Tebow
Tua
Cam
Johnny

if you're going strictly off individual performance based on what they had around them and what they were asked to do:

Johnny
Cam
Tebow
Tua


Winning is CERTAINLY a QB stat, but to me it's a secondary one. They have less control over the game than pitchers in baseball.

JFF elevated a middle of the pack big 12 roster to compete with the best in the SEC immediately. His only position group that was top tier was OL, and his WR were in the upper half of the league. We ran 5 wide and there was a huge drop off after Evans and Swope. Year two we started a walk on, that was found on the WOMENS BASKETBALL PRACTICE SQUAD.

He would have absolutely went scorched earth with bama or tebow florida talent around him.

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Cam and it’s not even close. Tua will constantly hurt in the NFL

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If you're including NFL careers then yes, it's not close. If you're only talking about college careers then I think it's much closer but Cam is still on top.

What made Tebow and Cam so incredible at the college level is that they were basically unstoppable in any short yardage or goal line situation. They were matchup nightmares and basically impossible to gameplan for.

Tua, while already an all-time great college passer, is a bit more conventional to scheme for defensively. He's in the same tier as guys like Bradford, Mayfield, and Mariota.

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1. Cam (frick Auburn)
2. Tua
3. Tebow
4. Johnny

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Right now, perhaps, but Tua will benefit of playing a full 2 seasons (presuming he declares for the draft in 2020, which he would be crazy not to barring injury). If he leads Alabama to two titles and wins at least one Heisman during that stretch, he'll top the list.

He's the best pure passer on the list by a long shot though.

Kyler Murray is as good as tua. Does he go on the list

1. Johnny
2. Cam
3. Tebow
4. Tua

Stats from full years averaged:


Completion percentage

Tua 70.3%
Manziel 68.9%
Tebow 66.4%
Newton 65.4%

Total TDs/ year

Newton 51
Manziel 46.5
Tebow 43.9
Tua 41

Passing Yards

Manziel 3910
Tua 3189
Tebow 2975
Newton 2854


Rushing Yards

Newton 1515
Manziel 1084
Tebow 826
Tua 211

Total Yards

Manziel 4994
Newton 4369
Tebow 3801
Tua 3400

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